Are we seeing the slow death of PC games

2010-06-25 13:52:13

#1

SEREMAKER: BABYMAKIN EXPERT √; +2,187|6786|Mountains of NC

At the peak of BF2 days. We saw shelves full of variety of different games but now-a-days .... barly anything. 5 years ago the internet would be buzzing with news of a new game coming out or new hardware but this present day .... theres just a whisper.

Do you think we are seeing the slow death of PC games ?

In 5 years are we going to see the total take over of consoles, leaving PC in purgatory

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2010-06-25 13:54:51

#2

DefCon-17: Maple Syrup Faggot; +362|6373|Vancouver | Canada

I think it's just the death of heavily advertised games on PC.

2010-06-25 13:56:44

#3

Miggle: FUCK UBISOFT; +1,411|6959|FUCK UBISOFT

we're seeing much more digital sales than retail sales. Sales aren't dwindling themselves.

Quality-wise we're seeing the death of gaming in general tbh.

2010-06-25 13:59:56

#4

Kez: Member; +778|5920|London, UK

Miggle wrote:
Quality-wise we're seeing the death of gaming in general tbh.

havent brought a pc game in ages, its all been console based as of late

2010-06-25 14:03:16

#5

SEREMAKER: BABYMAKIN EXPERT √; +2,187|6786|Mountains of NC

I truly miss playing on PC .... and would love to supe up my PC for the new stuff ie BC2 but I would want something truly epic to justify the cost

2010-06-25 14:04:18

#6

Miggle: FUCK UBISOFT; +1,411|6959|FUCK UBISOFT

SEREMAKER wrote:
I truly miss playing on PC .... and would love to supe up my PC for the new stuff ie BC2 but I would want something truly epic to justify the cost

BC2 isn't even worth the cost of the game.

2010-06-25 14:04:42

#7

jord: Member; +2,382|6895|The North, beyond the wall.

Consoles will become more like pc's and pc's more like consoles until there is no such thing as either and every game, household appliance and every aspect of our lives will be run off one machine that does it all.

2010-06-25 14:08:30

#8

Miggle: FUCK UBISOFT; +1,411|6959|FUCK UBISOFT

jord wrote:
Consoles will become more like pc's and pc's more like consoles until there is no such thing as either and every game, household appliance and every aspect of our lives will be run off one machine that does it all.

and all originality will be gone

2010-06-25 14:09:28

#9

Lucien: Fantasma Parastasie; +1,451|6870

It's not the death of PC games. The trend towards accessibility and "fair" games has caused game developers to focus on making games that let the players feel they're doing well from the first time they play. Games like BF2, UT, CS, and the like are all incredibly hard on new players and give experienced players the chance of actually getting good at the game. If you dumb down your game so new players can get into it easier and old players are not so willing to stick around, then the game itself and more importantly its sequel(s) are much easier to sell. Then there's the fact there are loads more gamers who are a lot more casual overall. They simply don't want to have to actually learn the game. Their attitude is often "I have a right to win" and devs are willing to support this.

2010-06-25 14:09:29

#10

jord: Member; +2,382|6895|The North, beyond the wall.

3D games will be next too, I'm like Nostadamous.

2010-06-25 14:09:56

#11

SEREMAKER: BABYMAKIN EXPERT √; +2,187|6786|Mountains of NC

would it take something like BF3 ( if done correctly ) to pull them out of this slump and re-energize the PC games

2010-06-25 14:11:50

#12

FloppY_: +1,010|6503|Denmark aka Automotive Hell

Miggle wrote:
we're seeing much more digital sales than retail sales. Sales aren't dwindling themselves.

Quality-wise we're seeing the death of gaming in general tbh.

Your thoughts, insights, and musings on this matter intrigue me

2010-06-25 14:12:37

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Phrozenbot: Member; +632|6833|do not disturb

There is an ever increasing trend that AAA titles are developed primarily on consoles and development on the PC is secondary. However, the PC will always be king of high-end graphics.

I don't believe it is because the PC market is shrinking, more-so that the console market is expanding and it is more profitable to release a tittle on multiple systems. One example of this would be the id tech 5 engine, for Rage, which has been built in mind to work on any platform without having to be ported. It will work naturally on the PC and consoles, as well as Mac and theoretically on Linux. They just have to write up an executable for Linux. Porting would be limited to hardware capabilities and local controls.

2010-06-25 14:12:48

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Miggle: FUCK UBISOFT; +1,411|6959|FUCK UBISOFT

SEREMAKER wrote:
would it take something like BF3 ( if done correctly ) to pull them out of this slump and re-energize the PC games

doubt that would do it.

They need something to unify it. If Valve started heavily hyping shit and spending money on exclusivity they could make it more popular.

Microsoft and Sony have almost control of their platforms, PCs are very different.

2010-06-25 14:15:46

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Phrozenbot: Member; +632|6833|do not disturb

I think hype is more detrimental. We are all expecting games to provide something great that we don't even know we want, and they fall short of expectations too often. Why even bother with hype these days.

2010-06-25 14:18:35

#16

Miggle: FUCK UBISOFT; +1,411|6959|FUCK UBISOFT

Phrozenbot wrote:
I think hype is more detrimental. We are all expecting games to provide something great that we don't even know we want, and they fall short of expectations too often. Why even bother with hype these days.

why bother? maybe because it massively increases sales?

CoD6 was hyped the shit out of and despite being a dismally bad game it made shitloads.

Making good games doesn't make money, advertising games makes money, signing exclusivity deals makes money.

2010-06-25 14:19:02

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SEREMAKER: BABYMAKIN EXPERT √; +2,187|6786|Mountains of NC

what amazes me is WOW ..... that games defies all logic _{inb4somespockreference} but yet it is wildly popular

2010-06-25 14:30:59

#18

Phrozenbot: Member; +632|6833|do not disturb

Miggle wrote:
Phrozenbot wrote:
I think hype is more detrimental. We are all expecting games to provide something great that we don't even know we want, and they fall short of expectations too often. Why even bother with hype these days.
why bother? maybe because it massively increases sales?

CoD6 was hyped the shit out of and despite being a dismally bad game it made shitloads.

Making good games doesn't make money, advertising games makes money, signing exclusivity deals makes money.

I was referring to consumers, not companies marketing. Low quality games can become profitable if marketed well.

2010-06-25 14:32:35

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Miggle: FUCK UBISOFT; +1,411|6959|FUCK UBISOFT

Phrozenbot wrote:
Miggle wrote:
Phrozenbot wrote:
I think hype is more detrimental. We are all expecting games to provide something great that we don't even know we want, and they fall short of expectations too often. Why even bother with hype these days.
why bother? maybe because it massively increases sales?

CoD6 was hyped the shit out of and despite being a dismally bad game it made shitloads.

Making good games doesn't make money, advertising games makes money, signing exclusivity deals makes money.
I was referring to consumers, not companies marketing. Low quality games can become profitable if marketed well.

somewhat of a catch-22 eh

2010-06-25 15:03:17

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RTHKI: mmmf mmmf mmmf; +1,741|6954|Oxferd Ohire

can we change the thread title? clicking on a "?" isnt the most fun on a laptop with a jumpy mouse

idk about the death of PC games but im seeing less and less in stores besides BestBuy and game stores like Gamestop

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2010-06-25 15:05:59

#21

Flaming_Maniac: prince of insufficient light; +2,490|6924|67.222.138.85

Lucien wrote:
Their attitude is often "I have a right to win" and devs are willing to support this.

^

and it sucks

2010-06-25 17:30:46

#22

War Man: Australians are hermaphrodites.; +563|6931|Purplicious Wisconsin

Miggle wrote:
SEREMAKER wrote:
I truly miss playing on PC .... and would love to supe up my PC for the new stuff ie BC2 but I would want something truly epic to justify the cost
BC2 isn't even worth the cost of the game.

Considering how you don't like nearly every fucking game, why should serem take advice from ya?

SEREMAKER wrote:
would it take something like BF3 ( if done correctly ) to pull them out of this slump and re-energize the PC games

Depends on how that'll turn out, I have low expectations for that game.

Edit: as for the "I wanna win" thing, I also am mad that devs are catering to that croud when really those people need to grow some brains and cooperate with their team.

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2010-06-25 17:34:01

#23

Jaekus: I'm the matchstick that you'll never lose; +957|5396|Sydney

Slow death of PC games?

I seriously doubt there will be a day when all game creators say "sorry guys, we're not making games for PC anymore, it's consoles all the way".

Maybe the quality or standard hasn't been to some people's tastes or expectations, but certainly there will always be great games released.

And I'm saying all this having grown up as a console player from when I got my first NES back in 1987.

2010-06-25 18:09:21

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Spearhead: Gulf coast redneck hippy; +731|6907|Tampa Bay Florida

It all comes down to profit. Are PC games really as profitable as games on consoles?

They probably have analysts working on this question all the time, but from what I can see, it is much more profitable for any game to be multi-platform (which, for PC gamers, is bad news).

Why should developers limit themselves to only making PC games? They won't... not because the game is going to be better if it is multi-platform, but it will also make 2x, 3x the money.

For console gamers, such as myself and lots of other ex-PC gamers, it is much cheaper to put money down on a console once every five years than to have to constantly upgrade a PC just so you can run a game the best way possible. It's expensive, to be honest.

Did they already say that BF3 will be PC-only? Because I find that hard to believe unless someone actually said so.

Last edited by Spearhead (2010-06-25 18:10:02)

2010-06-25 18:12:05

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Miggle: FUCK UBISOFT; +1,411|6959|FUCK UBISOFT

Spearhead wrote:
It all comes down to profit. Are PC games really as profitable as games on consoles?

They probably have analysts working on this question all the time, but from what I can see, it is much more profitable for any game to be multi-platform (which, for PC gamers, is bad news).

Why should developers limit themselves to only making PC games? They won't... not because the game is going to be better if it is multi-platform, but it will also make 2x, 3x the money.

For console gamers, such as myself and lots of other ex-PC gamers, it is much cheaper to put money down on a console once every five years than to have to constantly upgrade a PC just so you can run a game the best way possible. It's expensive, to be honest.

Did they already say that BF3 will be PC-only? Because I find that hard to believe unless someone actually said so.

tbh it's quite easy to put down money on your PC every 5 years and still run everything well.

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