Poll

Since joining BF2S's D&ST, have your political views strayed to the...

Far Left9%9% - 6
Left7%7% - 5
Moderate Left19%19% - 12
Center (more or less)26%26% - 17
Moderate Right9%9% - 6
Right19%19% - 12
Far Right7%7% - 5
Total: 63
eleven bravo
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dude you really are a fucking moron.  wow.  and lol
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FatherTed
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tehehe. going shop now to pander to my liberal needs (smoking) someone keep this going.
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Flaming_Maniac
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It's really fucking stupid when lowing can't even realize it when someone is not referencing the crap going on in the thread at the time (e.g. "neo") and morphs the post that is perhaps polarized more to the right than even he is into something liberal to disagree with.
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6690|North Carolina

Reciprocity wrote:

Flaming_Maniac wrote:

An anti-establishment far right
the people who elected George Bush and then divorced themselves from his reality?
No, I'm pretty sure the far right is divorced from actual reality.
lowing
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+1,662|6937|USA

Flaming_Maniac wrote:

lowing wrote:

Flaming_Maniac wrote:

An anti-establishment far right, that steeped in DST over time has become an anti-establishment far right with a general disdain for the European forfeiture of personal responsibility and ambition.
The problem is, the establishment that you are ohhh so against is steeped in personal responsibility. Now you have syndromes, and 200 year old history, and your parents, and your environment, the rich, and your "bad luck" all stepping in as "NEO" Bullshit to relieve you of the basic premise that benesath it all, you are responsible for yourself. So much so the mere thought of it brings out mockery, hostility and insults.
I thought I made it pretty clear that personal responsibility is #1.

You don't know my parents so shut the fuck up about that.

Even under Republican rule, the government has any number of welfare programs and other "fail-safe" aspects that it adds to society. All of which should in theory be done away with, in practice be drastically reduced. The government is not "steeped in personal responsibility".

JohnG@lt wrote:

No, being anti-establishment means taking responsibility for yourself and your own actions rather than allowing yourself to become dependent on a government. Learn your terms, not the corrupted terminology of the hippies.
emphasis mine
compare it to where we are headed FM, this the point. we are hesaded in some sort of "NEO" fuckin direction as I descibe, and it is being welcomed with open arms.
eleven bravo
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that post made absolutely perfect sense
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Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6690|North Carolina

Flaming_Maniac wrote:

An anti-establishment far right, that steeped in DST over time has become an anti-establishment far right with a general disdain for the European forfeiture of personal responsibility and ambition.
The Norwegians seem to be doing pretty well for themselves.
FatherTed
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god it feels good spending taxpayers money on fags and booze
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jord
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Lend us a tenner mate
FatherTed
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jord wrote:

Lend us a tenner mate
nah m8 this tenner is saved for a pizza later
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eleven bravo
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jord if you lived in pasadena id lend you ten bucks
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jord
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Ten quid would be like 20 bucks, but yeah, nice sentiment, thanks
eleven bravo
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in that case id loan a 5 spot
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jord
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i dont know what that is
eleven bravo
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half of 10
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jord
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+2,382|6963|The North, beyond the wall.
20 dollars will suffice then I can get back onto a barely positive balance.
FatherTed
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thats like £1.93 m8 hes avin u on
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Flaming_Maniac
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I do not know what you are saying lowing.

Turquoise is an honorary European.

Everyone else stop spamming.
FatherTed
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aww
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RTHKI
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not just because of bf2s, but since ive joined im a little left of center overall
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eleven bravo
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I see the far right as evil and the far left as retarded
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11 Bravo
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+965|5522|Cleveland, Ohio
another thread to shit.  well done.
Jay
Bork! Bork! Bork!
+2,006|5643|London, England

lowing wrote:

JohnG@lt wrote:

lowing wrote:


The problem is, the establishment that you are ohhh so against is steeped in personal responsibility. Now you have syndromes, and 200 year old history, and your parents, and your environment, the rich, and your "bad luck" all stepping in as "NEO" Bullshit to relieve you of the basic premise that benesath it all, you are responsible for yourself. So much so the mere thought of it brings out mockery, hostility and insults.
No, being anti-establishment means taking responsibility for yourself and your own actions rather than allowing yourself to become dependent on a government. Learn your terms, not the corrupted terminology of the hippies.
Whatever you want to call it, my post stands. The NEO-ideology bullshit  is void of personal responsibility in favor of fairness and blaming someone, ANYONE other than yourself for your problems, or short comings.  Even if they gotta invent a fuckin disease or syndrome to make sure of it.
Neo simply means new. Since the current Liberal designation no longer represents what liberal ideology originally did, they tacked a neo on the front of it. It simply means 'new liberal' or to be more accurate, 'old liberal' as in the liberalism of Thomas Jefferson, John Locke, John Stuart Mill etc.

Like I said, it's easier to create a new word rather than changing the definition for millions of people.
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Uzique
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hahaha lowing thinks that the use of the prefix 'neo' somehow implies some avoid-responsibility-European-hippie thing.

it's just a SEMANTIC way to SIGNIFY the (re)using of an OLD OR OUTMODED term, bringing it back into MODERN nomenclature

it doesn't represent or stand for ANY 'x' or 'y' or 'z' set of ideals; NEO is not an IDEOLOGY. it's part of a SYSTEM OF CATEGORISATION.
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Jay
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Uzique wrote:

hahaha lowing thinks that the use of the prefix 'neo' somehow implies some avoid-responsibility-European-hippie thing.

it's just a SEMANTIC way to SIGNIFY the (re)using of an OLD OR OUTMODED term, bringing it back into MODERN nomenclature

it doesn't represent or stand for ANY 'x' or 'y' or 'z' set of ideals; NEO is not an IDEOLOGY. it's part of a SYSTEM OF CATEGORISATION.
Like the Dewey Decimal System!
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