ruisleipa
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thread derailed go ahead and lock this sucka
Jay
Bork! Bork! Bork!
+2,006|5644|London, England

ruisleipa wrote:

thread derailed go ahead and lock this sucka
It's not derailed, it just didn't have the outcome you intended it to have. I think you expected all of us to jump on the bandwagon of punishing 'evil corporations'. Wrong crowd.

Last edited by JohnG@lt (2010-04-30 07:54:37)

"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
11 Bravo
Banned
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JohnG@lt wrote:

ruisleipa wrote:

thread derailed go ahead and lock this sucka
It's not derailed, it just didn't have the outcome you intended it to have. I think you expected all of us to jump on the bandwagon of punishing 'evil corporations'. Wrong crowd.
Dilbert_X
The X stands for
+1,817|6392|eXtreme to the maX

JohnG@lt wrote:

ruisleipa wrote:

thread derailed go ahead and lock this sucka
It's not derailed, it just didn't have the outcome you intended it to have. I think you expected all of us to jump on the bandwagon of punishing 'evil corporations'. Wrong crowd.
No, you failed to argue your point and resorted to spam.
Which is what you always do.
Fuck Israel
Flaming_Maniac
prince of insufficient light
+2,490|6993|67.222.138.85
How about you respond to what is presented to you?

http://forums.bf2s.com/viewtopic.php?pi … 6#p3132316
BLdw
..
+27|5457|M104 "Sombrero"

JohnG@lt wrote:

That's American culture. It's got nothing to do with their marketing.
Marketing has nothing to do with culture?
Jay
Bork! Bork! Bork!
+2,006|5644|London, England

BLdw wrote:

JohnG@lt wrote:

That's American culture. It's got nothing to do with their marketing.
Marketing has nothing to do with culture?
Sure, it's used to emphasize what already exists. It very rarely works at creating something from nothing.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
Dilbert_X
The X stands for
+1,817|6392|eXtreme to the maX

Flaming_Maniac wrote:

How about you respond to what is presented to you?

http://forums.bf2s.com/viewtopic.php?pi … 6#p3132316
But you don't have experience of being a parent do you?
I don't, but the point stands.
Fuck Israel
Jay
Bork! Bork! Bork!
+2,006|5644|London, England

Dilbert_X wrote:

JohnG@lt wrote:

ruisleipa wrote:

thread derailed go ahead and lock this sucka
It's not derailed, it just didn't have the outcome you intended it to have. I think you expected all of us to jump on the bandwagon of punishing 'evil corporations'. Wrong crowd.
No, you failed to argue your point and resorted to spam.
Which is what you always do.
Well, if you weren't working on your lowing impersonation it would be worthwhile to talk to you. You've shown repeatedly on many topics that you think people are stupid and that you should have the power to force them to conform to what you feel is 'right'. Life doesn't, and shouldn't work that way. For as much as you throw out references to Hitler when referring to other peoples point of view, you should look at your own critically sometime.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
ruisleipa
Member
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Dilbert_X wrote:

JohnG@lt wrote:

ruisleipa wrote:

thread derailed go ahead and lock this sucka
It's not derailed, it just didn't have the outcome you intended it to have. I think you expected all of us to jump on the bandwagon of punishing 'evil corporations'. Wrong crowd.
No, you failed to argue your point and resorted to spam.
Which is what you always do.
this tbh.

posting pictures of massive burgers and smily faces doesn't equal a good discussion.

galt fail.
Dilbert_X
The X stands for
+1,817|6392|eXtreme to the maX

JohnG@lt wrote:

BLdw wrote:

JohnG@lt wrote:

That's American culture. It's got nothing to do with their marketing.
Marketing has nothing to do with culture?
Sure, it's used to emphasize what already exists. It very rarely works at creating something from nothing.
Actually I'd say a lot of US culture is based on myth and marketing.
Look at rap music for example.
Fuck Israel
Jay
Bork! Bork! Bork!
+2,006|5644|London, England

ruisleipa wrote:

Dilbert_X wrote:

JohnG@lt wrote:


It's not derailed, it just didn't have the outcome you intended it to have. I think you expected all of us to jump on the bandwagon of punishing 'evil corporations'. Wrong crowd.
No, you failed to argue your point and resorted to spam.
Which is what you always do.
this tbh.

posting pictures of massive burgers and smily faces doesn't equal a good discussion.

galt fail.
He was trying to tell us that we're stupid for enjoying hamburgers. I was just showing him what he's been missing.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
ruisleipa
Member
+149|6508|teh FIN-land

JohnG@lt wrote:

For as much as you throw out references to Hitler when referring to other peoples point of view, you should look at your own critically sometime.

JohnG@lt wrote:

While we're at it, let's take away all responsibility for the parents. Lets take all children born and place them in state run orphanages where they will receive the prescribed amount of hugs per day, are given equal amounts of food, are all given a uniform to wear so that no one can make fun of their clothing, equal access to education, health care and time with a psychologist to root out their antisocial behavior. Lets take it one step further and genetically engineer all children so they have the same IQ, the same skin color and are the same size so that no one is bullied, no one does better in class than anyone else and no one can be stereotyped based on the color of their skin. Fuck it, lets just neuter everyone at birth and instead of producing children the old fashioned way, we'll just clone the perfect specimens, one male, one female, and not have to worry about anyone being 'disadvantaged' ever again.
LMFAO
Flaming_Maniac
prince of insufficient light
+2,490|6993|67.222.138.85

Dilbert_X wrote:

Flaming_Maniac wrote:

How about you respond to what is presented to you?

http://forums.bf2s.com/viewtopic.php?pi … 6#p3132316
But you don't have experience of being a parent do you?
I don't, but the point stands.
My parents were perfectly capable of saying no.

Frankly, my parents were capable of creating a situation where they rarely had to say no. I knew what was reasonable and what wasn't, especially when it came to buying crap.
Jaekus
I'm the matchstick that you'll never lose
+957|5464|Sydney

11 Bravo wrote:

Jaekus wrote:

Sure, you're free to detail your own subjective example, whilst I'm pointing out the bigger picture.
bigger picture?  this is one little area on the left coast.
Please be quiet, the grown ups are talking.
Jay
Bork! Bork! Bork!
+2,006|5644|London, England

Dilbert_X wrote:

JohnG@lt wrote:

BLdw wrote:

Marketing has nothing to do with culture?
Sure, it's used to emphasize what already exists. It very rarely works at creating something from nothing.
Actually I'd say a lot of US culture is based on myth and marketing.
Look at rap music for example.
Rap music? Rap music was organic and became popular because people enjoyed it (with a helping hand from MTV). All marketing did was make it even more popular than it was and bring it out of the 'underground'. It already existed well before it was marketed.

Is this another thing you disapprove of and wish to stomp from the face of the earth?

Last edited by JohnG@lt (2010-04-30 08:09:33)

"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
Dilbert_X
The X stands for
+1,817|6392|eXtreme to the maX

JohnG@lt wrote:

He was trying to tell us that we're stupid for enjoying hamburgers. I was just showing him what he's been missing.
Where did anyone say that?
Fuck Israel
Jay
Bork! Bork! Bork!
+2,006|5644|London, England

ruisleipa wrote:

JohnG@lt wrote:

For as much as you throw out references to Hitler when referring to other peoples point of view, you should look at your own critically sometime.

JohnG@lt wrote:

While we're at it, let's take away all responsibility for the parents. Lets take all children born and place them in state run orphanages where they will receive the prescribed amount of hugs per day, are given equal amounts of food, are all given a uniform to wear so that no one can make fun of their clothing, equal access to education, health care and time with a psychologist to root out their antisocial behavior. Lets take it one step further and genetically engineer all children so they have the same IQ, the same skin color and are the same size so that no one is bullied, no one does better in class than anyone else and no one can be stereotyped based on the color of their skin. Fuck it, lets just neuter everyone at birth and instead of producing children the old fashioned way, we'll just clone the perfect specimens, one male, one female, and not have to worry about anyone being 'disadvantaged' ever again.
LMFAO
You seem to have missed the point that taking away the responsibilities of the parents is well along the path that I described.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
Dilbert_X
The X stands for
+1,817|6392|eXtreme to the maX

JohnG@lt wrote:

Dilbert_X wrote:

JohnG@lt wrote:


Sure, it's used to emphasize what already exists. It very rarely works at creating something from nothing.
Actually I'd say a lot of US culture is based on myth and marketing.
Look at rap music for example.
Rap music? Rap music was organic and became popular because people enjoyed it (with a helping hand from MTV). All marketing did was make it even more popular than it was and bring it out of the 'underground'. It already existed well before it was marketed.

Is this another thing you disapprove of and wish to stomp from the face of the earth?
Not really, but are you really going to say it wouldn't have stayed in the ghetto, become mainstream and millions of kids wouldn't have been sucked into the 'culture' without a huge marketing effort?
Fuck Israel
Jay
Bork! Bork! Bork!
+2,006|5644|London, England

Dilbert_X wrote:

JohnG@lt wrote:

Dilbert_X wrote:

Actually I'd say a lot of US culture is based on myth and marketing.
Look at rap music for example.
Rap music? Rap music was organic and became popular because people enjoyed it (with a helping hand from MTV). All marketing did was make it even more popular than it was and bring it out of the 'underground'. It already existed well before it was marketed.

Is this another thing you disapprove of and wish to stomp from the face of the earth?
Not really, but are you really going to say it wouldn't have stayed in the ghetto, become mainstream and millions of kids wouldn't have been sucked into the 'culture' without a huge marketing effort?
That's not something we'll ever know now will we? It could've happened. Celebrating black culture has been going on for a good hundred years now as a way for white kids to 'get back' at their parents. First it was jazz, then it was the blues, then rock music, now rap. It all became mainstream because kids like pissing off their parents.

Last edited by JohnG@lt (2010-04-30 08:18:11)

"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
11 Bravo
Banned
+965|5523|Cleveland, Ohio

Jaekus wrote:

11 Bravo wrote:

Jaekus wrote:


Please be quiet, the grown ups are talking.
shut the fuck up you little cunt
You can go to your room without your cheeseburger.
Or your apple, or your glass of milk for Santa.
go die.  my god.
ruisleipa
Member
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JohnG@lt wrote:

You seem to have missed the point that taking away the responsibilities of the parents is well along the path that I described.
I didn't miss the irony of you accusing others of likening viewpoints to hitler and then using a distinctly hitler-ish diatribe to attempt to refute another's opinion
Jaekus
I'm the matchstick that you'll never lose
+957|5464|Sydney

11 Bravo wrote:

Jaekus wrote:

11 Bravo wrote:

shut the fuck up you little cunt
You can go to your room without your cheeseburger.
Or your apple, or your glass of milk for Santa.
go die.  my god.
Ladies first. Be my guest.

Last edited by Jaekus (2010-04-30 08:17:23)

Jay
Bork! Bork! Bork!
+2,006|5644|London, England

ruisleipa wrote:

JohnG@lt wrote:

You seem to have missed the point that taking away the responsibilities of the parents is well along the path that I described.
I didn't miss the irony of you accusing others of likening viewpoints to hitler and then using a distinctly hitler-ish diatribe to attempt to refute another's opinion
Right, because it only works one way. Arguing from a position of government intervention and authoritarianism and calling the person arguing for freedom Hitler doesn't work. It's asinine and backwards.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
11 Bravo
Banned
+965|5523|Cleveland, Ohio

ruisleipa wrote:

JohnG@lt wrote:

You seem to have missed the point that taking away the responsibilities of the parents is well along the path that I described.
I didn't miss the irony of you accusing others of likening viewpoints to hitler and then using a distinctly hitler-ish diatribe to attempt to refute another's opinion
ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh shut up

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