BF2S Forums anti-gun hysteria in Canada

Braddock wrote:

JohnG@lt wrote:

Braddock wrote:

Sometimes I get the impression the US is just Somalia with better roads.

Sometimes I feel sorry for you because you've never experienced what it really means to be free. It's that whole innocent until proven guilty thing. You just accept that you're considered guilty from birth. Different outlooks on life.

I appreciate that it's a different outlook on life in the US but believe me, I'm happy that my 'freedom' doesn't extend to owning high-powered, automatic weaponry... because it means the Chav who lives down the street doesn't have the 'freedom' to own high-powered, automatic weaponry either.

Honestly, don't mourn my lack of 'freedom', you folks in the US and places like Somalia are welcome to it.

JohnG@lt wrote:

Braddock wrote:

JohnG@lt wrote:

Sometimes I feel sorry for you because you've never experienced what it really means to be free. It's that whole innocent until proven guilty thing. You just accept that you're considered guilty from birth. Different outlooks on life.

I appreciate that it's a different outlook on life in the US but believe me, I'm happy that my 'freedom' doesn't extend to owning high-powered, automatic weaponry... because it means the Chav who lives down the street doesn't have the 'freedom' to own high-powered, automatic weaponry either.

Honestly, don't mourn my lack of 'freedom', you folks in the US and places like Somalia are welcome to it.

Your complete ignorance on the subject is showing.

Please tell me the difference between these two weapons:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c … 16A2_2.jpg
and
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c … _Rifle.jpg

Here's a tip. Nothing. They both shoot one round per squeeze of the trigger. They are semi-automatic rifles. The hunting rifle actually is higher caliber and will do more damage to a human target.

You can not buy automatic weapons off the shelf here in America no matter what your ignorant friends or media might have told you.

Here's an example of an automatic weapon:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c … M249mg.jpg

Here's a picture of me with it:
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb13 … 2/iraq.jpg

People do not walk down the streets of America cradling automatic weapons in their hands. Sorry.

Last edited by Cybargs (2010-02-07 13:11:42)

JohnG@lt wrote:

Braddock wrote:

JohnG@lt wrote:

Sometimes I feel sorry for you because you've never experienced what it really means to be free. It's that whole innocent until proven guilty thing. You just accept that you're considered guilty from birth. Different outlooks on life.

I appreciate that it's a different outlook on life in the US but believe me, I'm happy that my 'freedom' doesn't extend to owning high-powered, automatic weaponry... because it means the Chav who lives down the street doesn't have the 'freedom' to own high-powered, automatic weaponry either.

Honestly, don't mourn my lack of 'freedom', you folks in the US and places like Somalia are welcome to it.

Your complete ignorance on the subject is showing.

Please tell me the difference between these two weapons:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c … 16A2_2.jpg
and
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c … _Rifle.jpg

Here's a tip. Nothing. They both shoot one round per squeeze of the trigger. They are semi-automatic rifles. The hunting rifle actually is higher caliber and will do more damage to a human target.

You can not buy automatic weapons off the shelf here in America no matter what your ignorant friends or media might have told you.

Here's an example of an automatic weapon:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c … M249mg.jpg

Here's a picture of me with it:
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb13 … 2/iraq.jpg

People do not walk down the streets of America cradling automatic weapons in their hands. Sorry.

JohnG@lt wrote:

Braddock wrote:

JohnG@lt wrote:

Your complete ignorance on the subject is showing.

Please tell me the difference between these two weapons:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c … 16A2_2.jpg
and
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c … _Rifle.jpg

Here's a tip. Nothing. They both shoot one round per squeeze of the trigger. They are semi-automatic rifles. The hunting rifle actually is higher caliber and will do more damage to a human target.

You can not buy automatic weapons off the shelf here in America no matter what your ignorant friends or media might have told you.

Here's an example of an automatic weapon:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c … M249mg.jpg

Here's a picture of me with it:
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb13 … 2/iraq.jpg

People do not walk down the streets of America cradling automatic weapons in their hands. Sorry.

It would appear you have nailed me on gun knowledge... it's not my strong suit I'll admit. I've never fired a gun in my life and if I'm lucky I'll never have to. I guess I must have assumed the M-16 style weapons fire continuously having grown up on a diet of the A-Team (damn TV lying to me again!).

A ban on automatic weapons is sensible, I'm glad that exists in the US as there really is no need for such weapons in normal society. I still wouldn't want semi-automatic or non-automatic (if that's the term) weapons in my society either though... it's hard for the average Joe to get guns in this country, I like that.

Semi-automatic just means that a single bullet is fired every time the trigger is pulled and the next round is chambered by the bolt sliding back to the rear. A revolver also falls into this category even though the action is different.

Automatic means the weapon will fire until either the magazine runs out or the person removed their finger from the trigger. The US military no longer has automatic versions of it's 'assault rifles' as it was deemed a waste of ammo. Only dedicated machine guns like the M249 SAW or the M240 are fully automatic man portable weapons.

A bolt-action, which is strictly limited to rifles, requires the bolt to be pulled to the rear manually in order to chamber the next round. With a good user the time it takes to reload is neglible. Most shotguns fall into this category as well as they require a pumping action.


As for difficulty in getting weapons, we have that as well. You must get licensed and show proficiency before you are allowed to purchase one. The problem is with ignorant 'do-gooders' who are afraid of all guns and continuously try to ban them here. They completely ignore the fact that a person who is willing to jump through hoops in order to own a weapon is not their enemy. The person purchasing a weapon on the street illegally is their enemy just as it is in every single country that has banned weapons.

eleven bravo wrote:

its much easier to get firearms in some states than others.  I had a 3 day waiting period for mine in texas and only because nothing showed up on my background check in 3 days.  Most thorough background checks take longer than 3 days with all the back logs.

JohnG@lt wrote:

Most shotguns fall into this category as well as they require a pumping action.

DrunkFace wrote:

JohnG@lt wrote:

Most shotguns fall into this category as well as they require a pumping action.

I would have thunk there be more breech loaded then pump. Not in the military of course, but civilian use.

DrunkFace wrote:

JohnG@lt wrote:

Most shotguns fall into this category as well as they require a pumping action.

I would have thunk there be more breech loaded then pump. Not in the military of course, but civilian use.

eleven bravo wrote:

its much easier to get firearms in some states than others.  I had a 3 day waiting period for mine in texas and only because nothing showed up on my background check in 3 days.  Most thorough background checks take longer than 3 days with all the back logs.

JohnG@lt wrote:

Vilham wrote:

golt there is a massive difference between a bolt action and a gun with a magazine, even if they are both automatic. I can still gun down 16 people in 5 seconds with a semi auto m16 I cant with a bolt action.

Ever heard of Lee Harvey Oswald?