Poll

Have you ever had your opinion changed due to a DST thread?

Yes, totally new opinion18%18% - 11
Considered new ideas/thoughts but basically the same45%45% - 27
No.18%18% - 11
I don't want a new opinion, I just like e-arguing3%3% - 2
Give me a good argument and see. Most of em are shit.13%13% - 8
Total: 59
ruisleipa
Member
+149|6508|teh FIN-land
I see that Galt has 'thrown in the towel' as it were, saying in a thread that he's 'given up' after five months on DST banging his head against a brick wall. So, I'm wondering how many of you have actually changed your mind about something after reading/contributing to a thread here in DST.

Do arguments regarding Islamic fundamentalism make you sigh and reach for a brown bag, or have you over time come to realise the dangers of Muslim fanatics?

Have critiques of socialism made you realise that actually communism IS the same thing, and we'd better head rightwards before we wake up in Marx's utopia one day?

Do you still consider the USA's involvement in WWII to be a case of them freeing the world from slavery, and an event which they can gain moral friction off for centuries to come, or have you begun to consider that maybe they've worn that one out a bit.

In short, have the endless and, frequently, pointless debates around here EVER given you pause for thought, a new way of thinking about something, or changed in any way your pre-held beliefs.

Or is this shit really just a waste of time?
jord
Member
+2,382|6964|The North, beyond the wall.
It depends how you look at it and how you define "waste of time". If you want to entertain yourself (main reason for a forum) then it's not pointless. If you want to brush up on your debating skills then it's mostly not a waste of time. If you want to change someones opinion using logic, reason and facts then it is a waste of time. I can generally just see all sides to a debate now and am just apathetic to most arguments. I don't know there if there's a label for that...

Last edited by jord (2010-01-19 08:40:46)

eleven bravo
Member
+1,399|5545|foggy bottom
DST is full of experts that dont have the life experience or the education level to be given any serious thought.  A handful of people know what they are talking about
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eleven bravo
Member
+1,399|5545|foggy bottom
I mean really, do you want to know what a high school DROP OUT has to say about the economy?
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Mekstizzle
WALKER
+3,611|6907|London, England
the last option probably
jord
Member
+2,382|6964|The North, beyond the wall.

eleven bravo wrote:

I mean really, do you want to know what a high school DROP OUT has to say about the economy?
You can't just say that and not say who it is you dingle.

And to answer, it depends if they're correct or not. You never know.
Hurricane2k9
Pendulous Sweaty Balls
+1,538|5988|College Park, MD
Yes. A compelling argument or revelation of new facts can sway my standing.

It's good to stand for your beliefs, but it's also good to not be bull-headed (is that even a word?) and not accept anything else.
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lowing
Banned
+1,662|6937|USA
ANYONE that comes into this forum constantly ranting, raving, throwing fits, personally attacking, demanding you concede a point, etc..is a real life idiot.

For me, this is nothing but a time killer at the computer, while surfing, or working. To think that I am supposed to give a shit about how anyone feels about me on the internet is such a ludicrous notion to me, that it is almost incomprehensible.

I read these anti-lowing threads and posts and can not believe the energy some people put into hating an on-line personality that they don't even know in real life. I mean I have a good job, a loving family, I have never been in any kind of real trouble, because of the decisions I make for myself, I am giving and caring of my family, friends and co-workers yet I have got to be one of the most hated people in this forum and why? Because I have negative opinions about Islam, welfare, criminals, and people with a lack of personal responsibility. From this I have been called everything in the book, from A to Z. and it is assumed that my feelings have actually been hurt, while they pat themselves on the back acknowledging their cyber superiority to me. I guess the internet is the only thing some people have in life. What other explanation is there?

That is not to say that I have not had my moments in this forum, I certainly have, but it does not define my forum etiquette. I think I am, for most part, pretty respectful even of those with a habit of throwing personal attacks.
Jenspm
penis
+1,716|7018|St. Andrews / Oslo

lowing, that was quite random? Or am I missing something. I <3 you anyway.



And yes, I have been convinced enough to change my opinion several times on this forum.
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lowing
Banned
+1,662|6937|USA

Jenspm wrote:

lowing, that was quite random? Or am I missing something. I <3 you anyway.



And yes, I have been convinced enough to change my opinion several times on this forum.
Yeah I guess the point is, who really cares if you change your opinion or not? I do not come here looking to have my opinion changed or to change anyone elses. I have a thought I post it, then I respond to the posts afterward. Do I learn a lot, hell yes I do, but to date no one has convinced me that my basic opinions of what I posted earier is all wrong.
Phrozenbot
Member
+632|6902|do not disturb

Is John really leaving? Shoot, he still needs to add me on xfire and steam.
Macbeth
Banned
+2,444|5872

Turq, FM, and ATG, have all changed my mind on something at one time or another.
Pug
UR father's brother's nephew's former roommate
+652|6828|Texas - Bigger than France
Depends how well the troll's argument is formed.
ruisleipa
Member
+149|6508|teh FIN-land

lowing wrote:

but to date no one has convinced me that my basic opinions of what I posted earier is all wrong.
lol I could've told you that!
RTHKI
mmmf mmmf mmmf
+1,743|7023|Cinncinatti
Give me a good argument and see. Most of em are shit.

A couple of times I have changed about something, but to get there I have to wad through a sea of useless posts.
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Flaming_Maniac
prince of insufficient light
+2,490|6993|67.222.138.85
I find it to be more about fleshing out your own true opinion than taking someone else's. Certain people have pushed my consistency to its limits.
Spark
liquid fluoride thorium reactor
+874|6961|Canberra, AUS
Not one single thread, no. I find that it's more your opinion slowly changing over time than suddenly switching.
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
BVC
Member
+325|6982
I have altered my view on some things.  Can't recall what, but I've altered them.
Dilbert_X
The X stands for
+1,817|6392|eXtreme to the maX

lowing wrote:

ANYONE that comes into this forum constantly ranting, raving, throwing fits, personally attacking, demanding you concede a point, etc..is a real life idiot.
Oh thats funny
I have got to be one of the most hated people in this forum and why?
No-one hates YOU, but your arguments are pretty dumb and not based on anything coherent.

Last edited by Dilbert_X (2010-01-19 15:38:46)

Fuck Israel
Dilbert_X
The X stands for
+1,817|6392|eXtreme to the maX

eleven bravo wrote:

DST is full of experts that dont have the life experience or the education level to be given any serious thought.  A handful of people know what they are talking about
And its also full of people who think because they stomped around a foreign country with a gun in their hand, or held down a shitty low-level job for a few years they know everything there is to know on any subject.

This is a discussion forum, no-one is more right or wrong than the strength of their arguments.

Last edited by Dilbert_X (2010-01-19 15:36:48)

Fuck Israel
11 Bravo
Banned
+965|5523|Cleveland, Ohio

Dilbert_X wrote:

eleven bravo wrote:

DST is full of experts that dont have the life experience or the education level to be given any serious thought.  A handful of people know what they are talking about
And its also full of people who think because they stomped around a foreign country with a gun in their hand, or held down a shitty low-level job for a few years they know everything there is to know on any subject.
id rather listen to that person then some college kid being spoon fed by mommy and some liberal proff.
eleven bravo
Member
+1,399|5545|foggy bottom

Dilbert_X wrote:

eleven bravo wrote:

DST is full of experts that dont have the life experience or the education level to be given any serious thought.  A handful of people know what they are talking about
And its also full of people who think because they stomped around a foreign country with a gun in their hand, or held down a shitty low-level job for a few years they know everything there is to know on any subject.

This is a discussion forum, no-one is more right or wrong than the strength of their arguments.
funny you of all people say that when you are one of the worst idealogues here.  You and lowing are both two sides of the same coin.

Last edited by eleven bravo (2010-01-19 15:39:53)

Tu Stultus Es
jsnipy
...
+3,277|6809|...

experts on the internet
Dilbert_X
The X stands for
+1,817|6392|eXtreme to the maX
I'd rather listen to an argument than just take as gospel the opinion of some e-construct.

'I've read a book therefore you're wrong' is not an argument

'I was in the marines therefore you're wrong' is not an argument

'I have more 'life experience' therefore you're wrong' is not an argument

This is an internet forum, the only value here is in the argument you put forward, something the blowhards don't get.

Last edited by Dilbert_X (2010-01-19 15:45:15)

Fuck Israel
eleven bravo
Member
+1,399|5545|foggy bottom
youre just usually wrong dude, dont hate.
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