electronica for dummies (ie. me)

2009-12-25 07:10:38

#1

Spark: liquid fluoride thorium reactor; +874|6886|Canberra, AUS

Yo.

I want to step into the weird and wonderful world that is electronic music. my ear isn't very good at picking up rhythm so i want to rectify that, and this is most definitely the way to fix that.

however the electronic music everyone seems to listen to over here is just synthesised to death on an even-paced (ie. nonexistent) rhythm at 2124bpm. yeah no sorry that's not my thing.

i have listened to a bit of trip-hop, downtempo stuff and i quite like it (but that might just be cos what i've listened to has nice harmony and i automatically attach good tags to anything with nice harmony)

so shoot from the hip guys, give me stuff that will 'introduce' me properly.

The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
^{~ Richard Feynman}

2009-12-25 07:12:05

#2

Gooners: Wiki Contributor; +2,700|6844

Paging Uzique

2009-12-25 07:15:00

#3

Spark: liquid fluoride thorium reactor; +874|6886|Canberra, AUS

Gooners wrote:
Paging Uzique

surely he's not the only one who's into electronica (which he quite plainly is...)

The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
^{~ Richard Feynman}

2009-12-25 07:24:57

#4

Gooners: Wiki Contributor; +2,700|6844

Spark wrote:
Gooners wrote:
Paging Uzique
surely he's not the only one who's into electronica (which he quite plainly is...)

He's probably the best place to start haha. I'm not too big on electronica so I'm not really sure when it comes to this stuff. Since I'm listening to him right now, check out Wisp.

Uzique will probably tell you to check out Warp Records.

Last edited by Gooners (2009-12-25 07:25:50)

2009-12-25 10:46:50

#5

mtb0minime: minimember; +2,418|6866

This is a great read: http://techno.org/electronic-music-guide/

It's a bit humorous and biased, but in a funny way. It's still a very good place to learn about all the different kinds of electronic music, find out which ones you like (there's shitloads of samples to listen to), and then go from there.

Probably the best genre to start out with is trance; NOT the shitty Euro-, Italo- faggot trance, either. Just, generic trance. 4-to-the-floor House music is also a good starter. Oh, and check out "electronica" or "big beat" (kinda stuff you hear played on the radio, in movies, or at frat houses). Those 3 genres are probably the most broad and most accessible. From there you'll be able to meander around and try out stuff you like and don't like.

Personally, (aside from the parents listening to Kraftwerk and playing them for me ever since I was a baby) I first got into electronic music by listening to trance and electronica back in middle school and high school (~10-11 yrs ago) [Christopher Lawrence, The Crystal Method, The Chemical Brothers]. Was also fortunate enough to listen to Jason Bentley's radio show once a week at midnight on a Saturday night on the local rock station (wut).

Are you in uni, or will be? See if the music department has a history of electronic music course. I took one at my college a few years ago and it was a real eye-opener. And with the goodness of Pandora and Last.fm internet radio stations, you'll be able to explore and find new things a lot quicker/easier.

Oh, and check out the "recommend and rate music" thread. Couple days ago I posted several electronic albums that are pretty freakin sweet, and aren't the typical trancey bullcrap.

Regarding Warp Records stuff, it's definitely a gold mine, but don't listen to it right away. It could turn you off of the genre completely. Some fragile minds just can't handle it and aren't ready for it. (When I listen to that stuff my parents/siblings/friends are like, "wtf is that shit? you act like there's actual music playing")

2009-12-25 10:51:12

#6

Uzique: dasein.; +2,865|6682

trance and house are awful, boring bland and shitty but if you're really inexperienced and tame in your forays, sure check that out

i would just say throw yourself straight into the deep-end of the more 'melodic' and structured idm, ambient, experimental stuff. it's interesting and it'll blow your mind. im not recommending glitch or noise or minimal stuff cause you won't 'get' it, but there's a lot of intense electronic music that a new acolyte can listen to and love. you don't have to drill your fucking brains out with boring roland-generated 4/4 house or cheesy euphoric trance to be 'inducted' to electronica.

i'll definitely get around to being more constructive and enthusiastic about helping out when im not so drunk

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2009-12-25 12:12:00

#7

DefCon-17: Maple Syrup Faggot; +362|6368|Vancouver | Canada

I started listening to electronica fairly recent (active listening...both my parents are DJs so I've heard electronica-stuff all my life, just never really got into myself until recently), so I'm not exactly an amazing info source....but here's some stuff I like:

More "dirty" stuff:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-eRkKQtkhI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-VhKHFJgpg

Big-beat-ish:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=so9DBHCo64Q
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_n1FHX3mBw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UO4Usj3hHNc

More mellow:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sl5MCR8oR5A (one of my all time favourite songs )

Last edited by DefCon-17 (2009-12-25 12:12:23)

2009-12-25 12:13:35

#8

.Sup: be nice; +2,646|6665|The Twilight Zone

Uzique wrote:
house are awful, boring bland and shitty

You haven't heard Shapeshifters yet I assume.

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2009-12-25 12:13:54

#9

Uzique: dasein.; +2,865|6682

gonna bite my pedant-tongue...

sup man i dig house every year that i go to ibiza and most summers when i hit the superclubs... it's a great time+place thing. but come on. after a few hundred hours worth of house music it gets boring and predictable. you can guess when the drops are going to come and which way a track is going to go. it's no coincidence that most dj's start out mixing house, it's just generic in comparison to other forms of electronic music that get way more crazy, hectic, over-the-top and sublime. that's all im saying.

Last edited by Uzique (2009-12-25 12:15:35)

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2009-12-25 12:29:17

#10

.Sup: be nice; +2,646|6665|The Twilight Zone

Uzique wrote:
gonna bite my pedant-tongue...

sup man i dig house every year that i go to ibiza and most summers when i hit the superclubs... it's a great time+place thing. but come on. after a few hundred hours worth of house music it gets boring and predictable. you can guess when the drops are going to come and which way a track is going to go. it's no coincidence that most dj's start out mixing house, it's just generic in comparison to other forms of electronic music that get way more crazy, hectic, over-the-top and sublime. that's all im saying.

Okay its clearer now. It does get boring and predictable that's why I stopped listening to Dance/Trance/House/Eurodance/.../... but I'm still amazed by their imagination and life that is put into each song by this amazing "band". The vibes really come alive when I listen to their work but of course each to his own.

Last edited by .Sup (2009-12-25 12:30:24)

2009-12-26 00:09:45

#11

Spark: liquid fluoride thorium reactor; +874|6886|Canberra, AUS

Uzique wrote:
trance and house are awful, boring bland and shitty but if you're really inexperienced and tame in your forays, sure check that out

i would just say throw yourself straight into the deep-end of the more 'melodic' and structured idm, ambient, experimental stuff. it's interesting and it'll blow your mind. im not recommending glitch or noise or minimal stuff cause you won't 'get' it, but there's a lot of intense electronic music that a new acolyte can listen to and love. you don't have to drill your fucking brains out with boring roland-generated 4/4 house or cheesy euphoric trance to be 'inducted' to electronica.

i'll definitely get around to being more constructive and enthusiastic about helping out when im not so drunk

that sounds interesting, examples?

The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
^{~ Richard Feynman}

2009-12-26 18:00:10

#12

Wreckognize: Member; +294|6697

Justice - †
Chequerboard - Gothica
µ-Ziq - Lunatic Harness
Paul Van Dyk - Reflections
Leftfield - Leftism
Air - Moon Safari
Boards of Canada - Music has the Right to Children
Deadly Avenger - Deep Red
The KLF - The White Room
The Moog Cookbook - The Moog Cookbook
Mouse on Mars - Autoditacker
Polygon Window - Surfing on Sine Waves
Aphex Twin - Drukqs and Selected Ambient Works

Last edited by Wreckognize (2009-12-26 18:02:07)

2009-12-26 19:51:47

#13

mtb0minime: minimember; +2,418|6866

Wreckognize wrote:
Justice - †. Meh
Chequerboard - Gothica
µ-Ziq - Lunatic Harness yes
Paul Van Dyk - Reflections nononono
Leftfield - Leftism yes!
Air - Moon Safari
Boards of Canada - Music has the Right to Children yes
Deadly Avenger - Deep Red
The KLF - The White Room YES!!!
The Moog Cookbook - The Moog Cookbook
Mouse on Mars - Autoditacker
Polygon Window - Surfing on Sine Waves
Aphex Twin - Drukqs and Selected Ambient Works YES!

2009-12-26 20:33:09

#14

jsnipy: ...; +3,276|6734|...

just listen, there is no skill to it

also baby mammoth

2009-12-26 20:38:21

#15

KEN-JENNINGS: I am all that is MOD!; +2,978|6844|949

Bonobo
Quantic
Nightmares on Wax
Amon Tobin
Thievery Corp
Cinematic Orchestra
etc etc.

Warp Records, Ninjatune...

2009-12-26 20:52:51

#16

Wreckognize: Member; +294|6697

Ack how could I forget Thievery Corporation - The Mirror Conspiracy. ty for reminding me ken.

2009-12-27 13:41:23

#17

Ty: Mass Media Casualty; +2,398|6986|Noizyland

I like Dub and DnB and some post-rock stuff. It's quite heavily electronica-influenced but not "beep-a-deep" electronica. If you're wanting to get into the Electronica scene a bit of Dub or DnB might be a good way of easing yourself into it.

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2009-12-28 20:06:40

#18

m3thod: All kiiiiiiiiinds of gainz; +2,197|6883|UK

vengaboys

Blackbelts are just whitebelts who have never quit.

2009-12-28 20:08:46

#19

mtb0minime: minimember; +2,418|6866

m3thod wrote:
vengaboys

+ Eiffel 65

and then it's /thread

2009-12-28 23:49:34

#20

seymorebutts443: Ready for combat; +211|6807|Belchertown Massachusetts, USA

drop some X or acid and then listen to it.

2009-12-29 01:01:02

#21

Spark: liquid fluoride thorium reactor; +874|6886|Canberra, AUS

Ty wrote:
I like Dub and DnB and some post-rock stuff. It's quite heavily electronica-influenced but not "beep-a-deep" electronica. If you're wanting to get into the Electronica scene a bit of Dub or DnB might be a good way of easing yourself into it.

I'm into postrock, i didn't really associate it with electronica though.

The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
^{~ Richard Feynman}

2009-12-29 01:07:31

#22

=NHB=Shadow: hi; +322|6578|California

Darude and Basshunter is all you need along with Starcraft and DotA

2009-12-29 12:49:09

#23

.Sup: be nice; +2,646|6665|The Twilight Zone

mtb0minime wrote:
m3thod wrote:
vengaboys
+ Eiffel 65

and then it's /thread

Blue song by Eiffel reminds me of my childhood and my classmates from grammar school. Great song +1

2010-01-06 03:12:29

#24

Spark: liquid fluoride thorium reactor; +874|6886|Canberra, AUS

okay i'm listening to some of the stuff now.
massive attack - <3, already have some of their stuff
still waiting for uzique to give some examples of that stuff

(btw, stuff)

Last edited by Spark (2010-01-06 03:38:38)

The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
^{~ Richard Feynman}

2010-01-06 03:16:45

#25

liquidat0r: wtf.; +2,223|6839|UK

The Similar Artists tool on last.fm is a gold mine.

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