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Dilbert_X wrote:

destruktion_6143 wrote:

Tell me again how the worlds biggest superpower managed to lose track of the most wanted man in the world? I mean, its not like he is Carmen San Diego...

Easy, they wanted to.

Easy. We emasculated our human intelligence capabilities.

It's a lot easier to identify and track trends in technology of nation-states than it is to find a single dude who doesn't use any form of technology in mountainous areas. It's the nature of intelligence capabilities.

I forgot how versed you are in intelligence capabilities, Dilbert. Go ahead and tell us how easy it is to do all that stuff.

Dilbert_X wrote:

I know its dumb to just run in without a thought-out plan.

Anyhow, the US has failed to capture Bin Laden.
If a guy on a donkey can outwit the one and only superpower then yeah, I know more about intel than some pentagoon.

That post says more about your understanding of so many things than I ever could...at least to anyone who actually does have any understanding of those things.

Dilbert_X wrote:

Intel had nothing to do with it, it was lame tactics - or a deliberate plan to let him escape.

Whatever, the US failed in the most critical task it has set itself for a while, or at least since it failed over 9/11/

FEOS wrote:

That post says more about your understanding of so many things than I ever could...at least to anyone who actually does have any understanding of those things.

Dilbert_X wrote:

Bah, the US knew to within 5,000 metres where Bin Laden was and failed to catch him.

You just fail at admitting when you fail.

FEOS wrote:

That post says more about your understanding of so many things than I ever could...at least to anyone who actually does have any understanding of those things.

Dilbert_X wrote:

Repeating yourself doesn't make you any less wrong.

FEOS is the guy saying we are not failing in Afghanistan.

cl4u53w1t2 wrote:

- no soviet union
- not 540000 us ground troops
- no cold war
- no containment attempt
- religious issues
- far fewer losses on both sides

540k?  wut
war on terror
wut?
fear of communism versus islam about the same
so far...many years to go

Last edited by Red Forman (2009-10-30 08:00:14)

Beduin wrote:

Red Forman wrote:

fear of communism versus islam about the same

lol... gtfo

it is.  i mean, yall tongue and cheek the propaganda machine about islam.  how is that not somewhat the same?

Beduin wrote:

Red Forman wrote:

Beduin wrote:

lol... gtfo

it is.  i mean, yall tongue and cheek the propaganda machine about islam.  how is that not somewhat the same?

Which machine?

the big g o v t

Dilbert_X wrote:

Repeating yourself doesn't make you any less wrong.

You should take your own advice.

I'm pretty sure I've told you that before.

I don't think Afghanistan is anything like Vietnam at all. Vietnam was a product of the cold war and communist containment, an aggressive stand in a place where the U.S. had no specific interest in the area, and no reason for direct military involvement for anything other than enforcing policy.

Afghanistan is a NATO offensive against a nation whose government was harbouring and supporting forces that directly attacked other nations, including NATO members, on several occasions. The U.S. and other NATO members are not in Afghanistan to tear up a piece of the planet to make a political stand; they're there to fight the people who carried, and continue to carry out attacks against other nations, as well as the people who support them. North Vietnam was never going to attack the U.S. if the U.S. hadn't entered South Vietnam. The Taliban government and the organisations that it supports clearly is another matter all-together.

Is it a military headache like Vietnam was? Perhaps. This time, though, it's a necessary headache.

Dilbert_X wrote:

FEOS wrote:

Dilbert_X wrote:

Repeating yourself doesn't make you any less wrong.

You should take your own advice.

I'm pretty sure I've told you that before.

I see, so summarising your position:

9/11 Attacks - Intel failure

Bin Laden escaped - Intel Failure

Iraq WMDs - Intel failure.

Out of Cheerios - Intel failure

Bullshit. The above were analysis, policy and implementation failures.
You just don't want to admit it because that would be admitting the Pentagone and your fellow Pentagoons failed.

You're summarizing nothing.

Taking complex things and making two-word "summaries" out of them accomplishes nothing but proving you lack a fundamental understanding of what you are talking about.

Then you repeat it.