Duh. We want you to die but continue paying taxes.JohnG@lt wrote:
I already pay about $7 worth of taxes on every pack of cigarettes I buy. That tax is supposed to pay for my economic health burden. What more do you want from me?
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Not to develop lung cancer or give other people lung cancer via passive smoking.JohnG@lt wrote:
I already pay about $7 worth of taxes on every pack of cigarettes I buy. That tax is supposed to pay for my economic health burden. What more do you want from me?mcminty wrote:
Consumption of cigarettes produces a negative externality on society.. ie. a cost burden to society. In order to correct for these, the government is well within its rights to tax and regulate the sale of cigarettes.GodFather wrote:
So the FDA banned tobacco products that contain any flavoring besides menthol. They say it's to stop kids from smoking.
That's just bullshit.
Thoughts?
The only tobacco I smoke is flavored tobacco. Sure I won't be smoking tobacco anymore, which is healthy, but since when the fuck could the government force my hand? That seems un constitutional and I am outraged.
What's next? The ban on flavored liquor because that makes kids want to
become alcoholics?
Good job by the FDA.
Is that not my own choice to make? I've been educated that smoking can possibly give me cancer and yet I've made a rational decision to continue smoking. It's my body and my life, not yours.m3thod wrote:
Not to develop lung cancer or give other people lung cancer via passive smoking.
Live long and prosper. we're nice like that.
Vodka cruisers are getting expensive, fuck it, I'll just buy some pub squash and vodka...mcminty wrote:
That's because the government, for some reason, failed to realise that alcopop's and spirits are nealy perfect substitutes for teens who just want to get drunk.AussieReaper wrote:
Our country recently imposed a tax on the "alco-pops" to make them cost more so teens are less likely to buy them (or as many).GodFather wrote:
What's next? The ban on flavored liquor because that makes kids want to become alcoholics?
It's like they raise the price of those to make the teens buy the harder stuff at the same price.
okay die happy and in suffering . I notice you tactically left out a response to passive smoking.JohnG@lt wrote:
Is that not my own choice to make? I've been educated that smoking can possibly give me cancer and yet I've made a rational decision to continue smoking. It's my body and my life, not yours.m3thod wrote:
Not to develop lung cancer or give other people lung cancer via passive smoking.
Live long and prosper. we're nice like that.
I don't smoke around non-smokers. Hell, I couldn't if I wanted to anyway, smoking is banned in public places here. But I didn't need laws passed to tell me that smoking in bars around non-smokers was a discourteous thing to do. I never did it even when living in the south where there are still smoking sections in some restaurants. I'd rather go outside and not force people to breathe my second hand smoke.m3thod wrote:
okay die happy and in suffering . I notice you tactically left out a response to passive smoking.JohnG@lt wrote:
Is that not my own choice to make? I've been educated that smoking can possibly give me cancer and yet I've made a rational decision to continue smoking. It's my body and my life, not yours.m3thod wrote:
Not to develop lung cancer or give other people lung cancer via passive smoking.
Live long and prosper. we're nice like that.
Just cigs.DBBrinson1 wrote:
Does This Apply To Pipe Tobacco?
Okay so that's you. How many others think or behave like you?JohnG@lt wrote:
I don't smoke around non-smokers. Hell, I couldn't if I wanted to anyway, smoking is banned in public places here. But I didn't need laws passed to tell me that smoking in bars around non-smokers was a discourteous thing to do. I never did it even when living in the south where there are still smoking sections in some restaurants. I'd rather go outside and not force people to breathe my second hand smoke.m3thod wrote:
okay die happy and in suffering . I notice you tactically left out a response to passive smoking.JohnG@lt wrote:
Is that not my own choice to make? I've been educated that smoking can possibly give me cancer and yet I've made a rational decision to continue smoking. It's my body and my life, not yours.
If I'm outside and in mixed company I will stand downwind so they aren't forced to breathe my exhalations. It's just the right thing to do. So, after all is said and done I am only causing harm to myself, not others.
I smoke menthols.Mekstizzle wrote:
They were banned so much and so long ago here, that I didn't even know you could get flavoured cigs until a few years ago when I found out they had Menthol cigs. Even then, I only found out last year or so that you could get other flavours. In a way, I'm glad we don't have strawberry and pineapple cigs. Fuck that, everyone would be addicted then.
A lot more than the number of people who don't. It's just like anything else, it's always the minority that people remember. How many times have you had someone purposefully blow smoke in your face? Now count up the times where people were courteous and made it a point to stand in a way that you wouldn't smell the smoke.m3thod wrote:
Okay so that's you. How many others think or behave like you?JohnG@lt wrote:
I don't smoke around non-smokers. Hell, I couldn't if I wanted to anyway, smoking is banned in public places here. But I didn't need laws passed to tell me that smoking in bars around non-smokers was a discourteous thing to do. I never did it even when living in the south where there are still smoking sections in some restaurants. I'd rather go outside and not force people to breathe my second hand smoke.m3thod wrote:
okay die happy and in suffering . I notice you tactically left out a response to passive smoking.
If I'm outside and in mixed company I will stand downwind so they aren't forced to breathe my exhalations. It's just the right thing to do. So, after all is said and done I am only causing harm to myself, not others.
I used to smoke them alot with my mates a year or so ago. Good stuff. Never got addicted to cigs either. Stopped doing it though, well I didn't really stop, more like other people stopped so I couldn't bum a smoke anymore, and hell if I'm going to pay for a whole pack.JohnG@lt wrote:
I smoke menthols.Mekstizzle wrote:
They were banned so much and so long ago here, that I didn't even know you could get flavoured cigs until a few years ago when I found out they had Menthol cigs. Even then, I only found out last year or so that you could get other flavours. In a way, I'm glad we don't have strawberry and pineapple cigs. Fuck that, everyone would be addicted then.
Good for you. I honestly wish I never started. It's been ten years now and it's difficult as all hell to quit once you're addicted. That being said, I'll be damned if I let someone else dictate my life decisions for me.Mekstizzle wrote:
I used to smoke them alot with my mates a year or so ago. Good stuff. Never got addicted to cigs either. Stopped doing it though, well I didn't really stop, more like other people stopped so I couldn't bum a smoke anymore, and hell if I'm going to pay for a whole pack.
Woooohooo!!!JohnG@lt wrote:
Just cigs.DBBrinson1 wrote:
Does This Apply To Pipe Tobacco?
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The only people who would smoke vanilla, chocolate or strawberry flavored cigs are tards anyway. Come on nowMekstizzle wrote:
Hang on actually I just remembered they haven't banned flavoured tobacco here. Maybe only for Cigs. Because you can still get over 9000 flavours for Shisha (Hookah)
Probably the same for the US. If it was an outright ban that would be silly
Never noticed anyone standing in a way so i wouldn't smell it (which lets face it doesn't work anyway cos it stinks). Anyway its not the smell i am worried about it's the 4000 chemicals/toxins/carcinogens you're polluting my breathing space with. What are you doing about those?JohnG@lt wrote:
A lot more than the number of people who don't. It's just like anything else, it's always the minority that people remember. How many times have you had someone purposefully blow smoke in your face? Now count up the times where people were courteous and made it a point to stand in a way that you wouldn't smell the smoke.m3thod wrote:
Okay so that's you. How many others think or behave like you?JohnG@lt wrote:
I don't smoke around non-smokers. Hell, I couldn't if I wanted to anyway, smoking is banned in public places here. But I didn't need laws passed to tell me that smoking in bars around non-smokers was a discourteous thing to do. I never did it even when living in the south where there are still smoking sections in some restaurants. I'd rather go outside and not force people to breathe my second hand smoke.
If I'm outside and in mixed company I will stand downwind so they aren't forced to breathe my exhalations. It's just the right thing to do. So, after all is said and done I am only causing harm to myself, not others.
Well, next time you're around a smoker pay attention and see if they don't move downwind so that you aren't breathing their smoke.m3thod wrote:
Never noticed anyone standing in a way so i wouldn't smell it (which lets face it doesn't work anyway cos it stinks). Anyway its not the smell i am worried about it's the 4000 chemicals/toxins/carcinogens you're polluting my breathing space with. What are you doing about those?
But this notion of smokers being courteous is a myth, smokers who respect the wishes of non smokers are few and far between. There was a reason it was brought into law because being courteous was optional and thus you were forced outside with your filth.
This was me.JohnG@lt wrote:
Well, next time you're around a smoker pay attention and see if they don't move downwind so that you aren't breathing their smoke.
