I've never encountered a patch that people didn't hate.

2009-09-03 06:48:48

#1

Jay: Bork! Bork! Bork!; +2,006|5596|London, England

With every single update and every single patch in my gaming life (15 years or so of online play) I've never yet experienced one where everyone is happy. Let's face it, there are a lot of people whose self esteem is linked to how they do in a video game. There are just as many people who dislike any form of change in their life, they love routine. Whenever the first group gets 'nerfed' they bitch and whine and cry and 99% of the time they don't get the reversion that they want and they learn to adapt. The second group usually feeds off the whining of the first group and adds their own element, fear. These are the 'sky is falling' people. You take their fear of change and you add on top of it the fear of getting nerfed and you get a chorus of naysayers with every single update for every single computer program ever written.

It doesn't matter if it's a Firefox update, Windows update, BF2 update etc. Even if it somehow IMPROVES their experience in the long run they will bitch. So please, continue screaming the sky is falling and certain sections of the game are no longer playable. I will disagree wholeheartedly. MY kdr on IO has gone UP since patch

"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat

2009-09-03 07:03:46

#2

MrAnderson: Ghost Town T90/Apache Whore; +99|6238|Aberdeen, Scotland

People just like to moan, dude
There are those who ask for things to be changed, there are those who cry when they are changed, and there are those of us who just play the damn game!

That said, there have been a couple of big fuck-ups with the patches in the past...remember 1.3? Damn servers would crash all the time in the middle of a round

2009-09-03 07:06:34

#3

.Sup: be nice; +2,646|6692|The Twilight Zone

MrAnderson wrote:
People just like to moan, dude
There are those who ask for things to be changed, there are those who cry when they are changed, and there are those of us who just play the damn game!

That said, there have been a couple of big fuck-ups with the patches in the past...remember 1.3? Damn servers would crash all the time in the middle of a round

and there are the noobs who don't give a shit. Medals, ranks and unlocks is all they care. DICE is just too incompetent to make a proper patch

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2009-09-03 07:09:19

#4

MrAnderson: Ghost Town T90/Apache Whore; +99|6238|Aberdeen, Scotland

.Sup wrote:
More goddamn moaning.

You're starting to sound like Specialist here, you know that?

2009-09-03 07:10:04

#5

Jay: Bork! Bork! Bork!; +2,006|5596|London, England

.Sup wrote:
MrAnderson wrote:
People just like to moan, dude
There are those who ask for things to be changed, there are those who cry when they are changed, and there are those of us who just play the damn game!

That said, there have been a couple of big fuck-ups with the patches in the past...remember 1.3? Damn servers would crash all the time in the middle of a round
and there are the noobs who don't give a shit. Medals, ranks and unlocks is all they care. DICE is just too incompetent to make a proper patch

It's a video game dude, not life. You're supposed to play for the medals, ranks and unlocks.

"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat

2009-09-03 07:10:48

#6

.Sup: be nice; +2,646|6692|The Twilight Zone

MrAnderson wrote:
.Sup wrote:
More goddamn moaning.
You're starting to sound like Specialist here, you know that?

So you disagree DICE can't make a proper patch?

JohnG@lt wrote:
.Sup wrote:
MrAnderson wrote:
People just like to moan, dude
There are those who ask for things to be changed, there are those who cry when they are changed, and there are those of us who just play the damn game!

That said, there have been a couple of big fuck-ups with the patches in the past...remember 1.3? Damn servers would crash all the time in the middle of a round
and there are the noobs who don't give a shit. Medals, ranks and unlocks is all they care. DICE is just too incompetent to make a proper patch
It's a video game dude, not life. You're supposed to play for the medals, ranks and unlocks.

No, I'm supposed to play for fun not for medals and ranks. You have much to learn about life.

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2009-09-03 07:13:31

#7

MrAnderson: Ghost Town T90/Apache Whore; +99|6238|Aberdeen, Scotland

They may not be perfect, but you gotta say 1.5 is an improvement on past efforts, there are no game-breaking cock-ups.

It's a game, people get so worked up over little things...

2009-09-03 07:14:06

#8

Jay: Bork! Bork! Bork!; +2,006|5596|London, England

.Sup wrote:
MrAnderson wrote:
.Sup wrote:
More goddamn moaning.
You're starting to sound like Specialist here, you know that?
So you disagree DICE can't make a proper patch?

I see nothing but positives from this patch.

Planes weaker, upgraded AA. - Sweet, it makes non-IO maps playable without a pilot that has been flying for 5 years straight.
Improved hitreg - No complaints here, my KDR has gone up.
Prone deviation - I don't remember being able to fall on my weapon and shoot accurately right away in the Army anyway. IO was becoming a game of 'see who can hit the prone button quicker and pull the trigger'. No complaints here.

What did I miss?

"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat

2009-09-03 07:14:10

#9

Lucien: Fantasma Parastasie; +1,451|6891

HMM WELL LET'S SEE

1.2 = GL broken, People started J-10 whoring, no more shooting in midair, clayspam (1.2?), blackhawk broken, among many others
1.3 = Squadhopping removed, CTDs/THERE IS A PROBLEM WITH YOUR CONNECTION
1.4 = Infantry movement nerfed to shit and back, some other stuff
1.5 = Guns made effectively less accurate
Infantry Only was introduced somewhere in that mess too

It's not surprising that people complain about things that are bad. What irks me is HERPALADERP IM SO CLEVER FOR COMPLAINING ABOUT COMPLAINING THIS HAS NEVER BEEN DONE BEFORE - kind of people such as yourself.

2009-09-03 07:14:38

#10

.Sup: be nice; +2,646|6692|The Twilight Zone

MrAnderson wrote:
They may not be perfect, but you gotta say 1.5 is an improvement on past efforts, there are no game-breaking cock-ups.

It's a game, people get so worked up over little things...

Its an improvement in certain areas but some would say we'd be better off with sticking with 1.41

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2009-09-03 07:17:12

#11

MrAnderson: Ghost Town T90/Apache Whore; +99|6238|Aberdeen, Scotland

Lucien wrote:
It's not surprising that people complain about things that are bad. What irks me is HERPALADERP IM SO CLEVER FOR COMPLAINING ABOUT COMPLAINING THIS HAS NEVER BEEN DONE BEFORE - kind of people such as yourself.

I wasn't complaining, I was just responding to the OP...unfortunately .soop here is following me around trying to look smart by arguing with everything I say.

2009-09-03 07:18:16

#12

Lucien: Fantasma Parastasie; +1,451|6891

MrAnderson wrote:
I was just responding to the OP...

So was I

2009-09-03 07:18:51

#13

.Sup: be nice; +2,646|6692|The Twilight Zone

MrAnderson wrote:
Lucien wrote:
It's not surprising that people complain about things that are bad. What irks me is HERPALADERP IM SO CLEVER FOR COMPLAINING ABOUT COMPLAINING THIS HAS NEVER BEEN DONE BEFORE - kind of people such as yourself.
I wasn't complaining, I was just responding to the OP...unfortunately .soop here is following me around trying to look smart by arguing with everything I say.

Well lets see, I posted what I dislike about the patch and you accused me of moaning. I'd say you're the one trying to look smart.

2009-09-03 07:22:12

#14

MrAnderson: Ghost Town T90/Apache Whore; +99|6238|Aberdeen, Scotland

Yes, but only because you quoted me and implied that everyone who's not pissed off with the patch of being noobs...I give up with you, man. We're probably gonna get warned for flaming.

2009-09-03 07:25:19

#15

Ec0li: Vagina face; +167|6238|London ㋛

JohnG@lt wrote:
.Sup wrote:
MrAnderson wrote:

You're starting to sound like Specialist here, you know that?
So you disagree DICE can't make a proper patch?
I see nothing but positives from this patch.

Planes weaker, upgraded AA. - Sweet, it makes non-IO maps playable without a pilot that has been flying for 5 years straight.
Improved hitreg - No complaints here, my KDR has gone up.
Prone deviation - I don't remember being able to fall on my weapon and shoot accurately right away in the Army anyway. IO was becoming a game of 'see who can hit the prone button quicker and pull the trigger'. No complaints here.

What did I miss?

But you do remember reviving falling comrades with shock paddles after being shot in the head with a .50 cal? And jumping 6 feet in the air and disarming claymores with your trusty spanner? Those were the good ol days eh?

Stop comparing bf2 with reality. Prone deviation fails and IO has been changed....for the worse, now we still have prone LMG spammers and nade spammers but the gameplay has been slowed down considerably.

2009-09-03 07:28:26

#16

Jay: Bork! Bork! Bork!; +2,006|5596|London, England

Ec0li wrote:
JohnG@lt wrote:
.Sup wrote:

So you disagree DICE can't make a proper patch?
I see nothing but positives from this patch.

Planes weaker, upgraded AA. - Sweet, it makes non-IO maps playable without a pilot that has been flying for 5 years straight.
Improved hitreg - No complaints here, my KDR has gone up.
Prone deviation - I don't remember being able to fall on my weapon and shoot accurately right away in the Army anyway. IO was becoming a game of 'see who can hit the prone button quicker and pull the trigger'. No complaints here.

What did I miss?
But you do remember reviving falling comrades with shock paddles after being shot in the head with a .50 cal? And jumping 6 feet in the air and disarming claymores with your trusty spanner? Those were the good ol days eh?

Stop comparing bf2 with reality. Prone deviation fails and IO has been changed....for the worse, now we still have prone LMG spammers and nade spammers but the gameplay has been slowed down considerably.

Hardly. It might've slowed down for you personally because you spend more time dead When I see people dolphin diving now I laugh as I shoot them in the back. Adapt and overcome.

"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat

2009-09-03 07:32:10

#17

Flaming_Maniac: prince of insufficient light; +2,490|6945|67.222.138.85

EA is bad at patching, that's all there is to it. It's not like this is the only game I play, and with the vast majority of the other games the patches are almost always more good than bad. Sure I don't like some aspects of most patches, but I recognize that they are trying to move the game forward.

With EA, I dunno. It seems to me that for every aspect of the game that they have truly fixed (remember how you would die by barely brushing a moving vehicle?) they have created an all-together new problem that wasn't there before.

That plus the epic instability issues in 1.3...yeah DICE can't patch.

2009-09-03 07:33:32

#18

Lucien: Fantasma Parastasie; +1,451|6891

JohnG@lt wrote:
Adapt and overcome.

No no no, that's not how it works. You adapt to the game as it is, instead of cheering on unneeded changes and then telling people who actually did adapt to the original game to change how they play.

2009-09-03 07:36:05

#19

Jay: Bork! Bork! Bork!; +2,006|5596|London, England

Lucien wrote:
JohnG@lt wrote:
Adapt and overcome.
No no no, that's not how it works. You adapt to the game as it is, instead of cheering on unneeded changes and then telling people who actually did adapt to the original game to change how they play.

You can't fix it and bitching changes nothing. Your only options are to adapt or quit.

"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat

2009-09-03 07:37:37

#20

Lucien: Fantasma Parastasie; +1,451|6891

Actually I have a third option courtesy of DeathUnlimited, but for fears of it being patched out in a possible 1.51 I'll wait.

2009-09-03 07:37:47

#21

.Sup: be nice; +2,646|6692|The Twilight Zone

Flaming_Maniac wrote:
EA is bad at patching, that's all there is to it. It's not like this is the only game I play, and with the vast majority of the other games the patches are almost always more good than bad. Sure I don't like some aspects of most patches, but I recognize that they are trying to move the game forward.

With EA, I dunno. It seems to me that for every aspect of the game that they have truly fixed (remember how you would die by barely brushing a moving vehicle?) they have created an all-together new problem that wasn't there before.

That plus the epic instability issues in 1.3...yeah DICE can't patch.

Flaming agrees. Guise we have a powerful ally on our side

2009-09-03 07:42:50

#22

Ec0li: Vagina face; +167|6238|London ㋛

JohnG@lt wrote:
Lucien wrote:
JohnG@lt wrote:
Adapt and overcome.
No no no, that's not how it works. You adapt to the game as it is, instead of cheering on unneeded changes and then telling people who actually did adapt to the original game to change how they play.
You can't fix it and bitching changes nothing. Your only options are to adapt or quit.

I will adapt, I won't quit as I don't think I play nearly enough to merit me not playing bf2 as quiting. I think our point is you don't change a major part of a game that has been like it has for the past 4 years. Too big a risk, and the only reason it was changed was because people like you bitched and moaned about "prone spamming".

Tenner says you prone in a corner with your PKM on kark.

Adapt and overcome is a dudd argument as that's what you should have done fo the past 3/4 years.

2009-09-03 08:00:09

#23

Jay: Bork! Bork! Bork!; +2,006|5596|London, England

Ec0li wrote:
JohnG@lt wrote:
Lucien wrote:

No no no, that's not how it works. You adapt to the game as it is, instead of cheering on unneeded changes and then telling people who actually did adapt to the original game to change how they play.
You can't fix it and bitching changes nothing. Your only options are to adapt or quit.
I will adapt, I won't quit as I don't think I play nearly enough to merit me not playing bf2 as quiting. I think our point is you don't change a major part of a game that has been like it has for the past 4 years. Too big a risk, and the only reason it was changed was because people like you bitched and moaned about "prone spamming".

Tenner says you prone in a corner with your PKM on kark.

Adapt and overcome is a dudd argument as that's what you should have done fo the past 3/4 years.

I never really had an issue with prone spamming. I never went on forums bitching about it and I never bitched in game about it. Was it retarded seeing people do the spam/roll thing and not being able to hit them at all for two seconds? Yeah, but so is people bunny hopping in front of you and watching an entire clip miss them. The change isn't that bad and the bads will still be bad.

As for me sitting in a corner with a PKM on Karkand. Lolz. I'm usually a medic and if I'm playing something else I'm the first into the room for a flag cap and tripping all the claymores praying the medic next to me will revive me :p

"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat

2009-09-03 08:03:15

#24

Fat_Swinub: jaff; +125|6673

Everyone liked 1.12 because it changed nothing

2009-09-03 08:04:35

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Lucien: Fantasma Parastasie; +1,451|6891

JohnG@lt wrote:
seeing people do the spam/roll thing and not being able to hit them at all for two seconds? Yeah, but so is people bunny hopping in front of you and watching an entire clip miss them.

BF2S Forums I've never encountered a patch that people didn't hate.

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