Finray
Hup! Dos, Tres, Cuatro
+2,629|6031|Catherine Black
Lower your resolution. That's way to high for the card you've got trying to run TF2.
https://i.imgur.com/qwWEP9F.png
Bevo
Nah
+718|6764|Austin, Texas

Finray wrote:

Lower your resolution. That's way to high for the card you've got trying to run TF2.
I don't see 1360x768 as "way too high", the other res is only a tiny bit smaller than that. Plus, it runs the upgraded L4D engine better than TF2 on higher settings. I'll try it suppose but it seems moot.
GC_PaNzerFIN
Work and study @ Technical Uni
+528|6657|Finland

Bevo wrote:

Finray wrote:

Lower your resolution. That's way to high for the card you've got trying to run TF2.
I don't see 1360x768 as "way too high", the other res is only a tiny bit smaller than that. Plus, it runs the upgraded L4D engine better than TF2 on higher settings. I'll try it suppose but it seems moot.
You need to face the fact your laptop is FAR from fast. You might even have to go down to 1024 res.
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Bevo
Nah
+718|6764|Austin, Texas
I tried the direct X, nothing...

But I noticed something rather odd.

I jacked up my settings to medium/etc to check to see the difference, there's hardly any. The lower settings run smoother with no activity (40FPS in spawn etc), but in high activity they're both 10 FPS. Maybe the showFPS doesn't go below 10 FPS, I dunno.

Anyway I think I'm giving up. I still don't understand how L4D runs better than TF2. It doesn't help with you guys saying "Your laptop sucks" because well, frankly I don't understand how it runs higher intensity games at better graphics. Maybe it's something to do with the netcode, who knows. I will admit it does seem like my laptop just can't run TF2. I'm fairly disappointed in this graphics card for the price I paid for it.
GC_PaNzerFIN
Work and study @ Technical Uni
+528|6657|Finland

Bevo wrote:

I tried the direct X, nothing...

But I noticed something rather odd.

I jacked up my settings to medium/etc to check to see the difference, there's hardly any. The lower settings run smoother with no activity (40FPS in spawn etc), but in high activity they're both 10 FPS. Maybe the showFPS doesn't go below 10 FPS, I dunno.

Anyway I think I'm giving up. I still don't understand how L4D runs better than TF2. It doesn't help with you guys saying "Your laptop sucks" because well, frankly I don't understand how it runs higher intensity games at better graphics. Maybe it's something to do with the netcode, who knows. I will admit it does seem like my laptop just can't run TF2. I'm fairly disappointed in this graphics card for the price I paid for it.
TF2 is heavy. FACT. If you don't want to believe it, I can't help you.
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Bevo
Nah
+718|6764|Austin, Texas

GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:

TF2 is heavy. FACT. If you don't want to believe it, I can't help you.
You're not helping me period. I get that it's not running right. Putting at 640x480 isn't really a solution, either.

I don't understand how a game with an updated version of the same engine will run better on higher graphics. It may be that TF2 has 5 million x, whatever that is. I'm not really a tech genius you see, that's why I'm asking for help in the tech forum. I plain don't understand, and you telling me to lower my settings even more doesn't help. At all.
GC_PaNzerFIN
Work and study @ Technical Uni
+528|6657|Finland

Well you _CAN NOT_ make hw faster than it is if thats what you are asking. Download a high fps config, it mey help a bit.

http://www.gamespot.com/pc/action/teamf … pid=437678
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DUnlimited
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+1,160|6707|cuntshitlake

Panzer, it is not a GPU problem in this case. That machine should handle TF2 excellent on low.
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Bevo
Nah
+718|6764|Austin, Texas

GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:

Well you _CAN NOT_ make hw faster than it is if thats what you are asking. Download a high fps config, it mey help a bit.

http://www.gamespot.com/pc/action/teamf … pid=437678
This was helpful.

Side note, TF2 doesn't make my computer run hot like EVE online will.  It's almost like my laptop isn't "trying". I'm guessing it's just the lack of multicore support from TF2 (real multicore support, anyway), but may have something to do with it?

ed:

DeathUnlimited wrote:

Panzer, it is not a GPU problem in this case. That machine should handle TF2 excellent on low.
and then posts like these just make me scratch my head. What the hell is going on?

Last edited by Bevo (2009-06-16 08:38:05)

Bevo
Nah
+718|6764|Austin, Texas
Okay, that high FPS config reduced my FPS and made players of every team a bloody red. I could also count the number of pixels that player models were made out of.
Peter
Super Awesome Member
+494|6645|dm_maidenhead
So putting it to dx8 didn't raise the fps at all? :S
Bevo
Nah
+718|6764|Austin, Texas

Peter wrote:

So putting it to dx8 didn't raise the fps at all? :S
Nothing noticeable anyway. It seems to be superbitchy when player count is > 8 or so for the server. I can "manage" a 2 on 2, but it still chokes when any weapons are fired.
Bevo
Nah
+718|6764|Austin, Texas
http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/s … p?t=897659

So this appears to be the issue. GPU clock speed doesn't increase when TF2 loads a map etc... now, anyone know how to fix it?
Brasso
member
+1,549|6874

Bevo wrote:

Do you play tf2 haffey?[/url]
umm.  yeah.

as for the gpu clock speed: read the rest of that thread.  they talked about rivatuner and that's the best app to use unless you want to use the standard ATi CP.
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Bevo
Nah
+718|6764|Austin, Texas

haffeysucks wrote:

Bevo wrote:

Do you play tf2 haffey?[/url]
umm.  yeah.

as for the gpu clock speed: read the rest of that thread.  they talked about rivatuner and that's the best app to use unless you want to use the standard ATi CP.
Well it's monitoring the speed, and it's remaining constant. No apps open, firefox open, TF2 open, tf2 running on a server... The other poster implies that the clock speed should be increasing when TF2 loads a map, so it sounds like something's bugged somewhere.

Ed: DGoldman is me -_-

Last edited by Bevo (2009-06-16 11:40:11)

CrazeD
Member
+368|6916|Maine
TF2 lags in heavy fire fights on my PC too, and my specs are well and beyond your laptop specs. TF2 is just a shitty game, deal with it.
Bevo
Nah
+718|6764|Austin, Texas
For those naysayers: Eat it, fatty.

Problem fixed. It was my battery plan, it held back performance. Switched to high performance, bingo. Never dropped below 60 FPS on all med/high.
DUnlimited
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+1,160|6707|cuntshitlake

Bevo wrote:

For those naysayers: Eat it, fatty.

Problem fixed. It was my battery plan, it held back performance. Switched to high performance, bingo. Never dropped below 60 FPS on all med/high.
That's what I thought
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Bevo
Nah
+718|6764|Austin, Texas
Of course now I have 2 new, smaller problems.



- The audio lags behind slightly (sniper shot will sound as you're descoping, rocket shout will sound when you see the rocket leave... etc. It's not huge but it's pretty annoying.

Audio card is IDT High Definition Audio... however I'm using a creative XFI soundblaster card. I already tried downloading new drivers, but that didnt help. I turned sound quality on low and the delay seemed to shorten, but not fixed.

- There's slight hiccups from every 3 to 5 to 20 seconds. FPS drops through the floor like ALL the resources are temporarily being hogged by some program. There's no real programs running in the backround though. The only one that I could see is the Dell Datasafe online, but it's not even connected. It seems to happen especially when someone's shooting me... but that may just be my luck.
Finray
Hup! Dos, Tres, Cuatro
+2,629|6031|Catherine Black
The sound issue sounds like connection lag.
https://i.imgur.com/qwWEP9F.png
Bevo
Nah
+718|6764|Austin, Texas

Finray wrote:

The sound issue sounds like connection lag.
Sounds should be local... there's no reason why the client would have to receive them from the server.
Jackabo
Member
+127|6802|Dublin, Ireland
Why would you want to play that shit game in the first place?
Bevo
Nah
+718|6764|Austin, Texas

Jackabo wrote:

Why would you want to play that shit game in the first place?
Thanks for the help, jackass. Begone from my thread!

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