usmarine
Banned
+2,785|7064

Braddock wrote:

while the guy responsible for kick starting all
saddam is dead
Braddock
Agitator
+916|6592|Éire

usmarine wrote:

war criminal lol

if anyone is a war criminal, it is rumsfuck
Accessory to war crime then... Bush was probably playing with his tonka truck in the corner while the hawks drew up the battle plans.
usmarine
Banned
+2,785|7064

Braddock wrote:

usmarine wrote:

war criminal lol

if anyone is a war criminal, it is rumsfuck
Accessory to war crime then... Bush was probably playing with his tonka truck in the corner while the hawks drew up the battle plans.
lewl

you are becoming awfully close to rammuntion posts.  replace the word war criminal with zionism and its hard to distinguish.
Braddock
Agitator
+916|6592|Éire

usmarine wrote:

Braddock wrote:

while the guy responsible for kick starting all
saddam is dead
He is. George W. Bush isn't though.
Braddock
Agitator
+916|6592|Éire

usmarine wrote:

Braddock wrote:

usmarine wrote:

war criminal lol

if anyone is a war criminal, it is rumsfuck
Accessory to war crime then... Bush was probably playing with his tonka truck in the corner while the hawks drew up the battle plans.
lewl

you are becoming awfully close to rammuntion posts.  replace the word war criminal with zionism and its hard to distinguish.
Says the worst poster in the entire forum. You even look bad when you are posting in the Everything Else section.
usmarine
Banned
+2,785|7064

Braddock wrote:

usmarine wrote:

Braddock wrote:

while the guy responsible for kick starting all
saddam is dead
He is. George W. Bush isn't though.
wider picture like you said dear...

you seem a bit myopic yet tell someone to widen their view.
Poseidon
Fudgepack DeQueef
+3,253|6840|Long Island, New York

Braddock wrote:

Poseidon wrote:

Braddock wrote:


So he should have been punished for attempted assault... in my country I've seen people get suspended sentences for full blown grievous bodily harm and this guy gets a year inside for missing a war criminal with a shoe, that's what I find unfair.

Given the context he should have gotten a suspended sentence and a slap on the wrist imo. If Bush had any sense he could have shown himself to be a gracious war criminal and pushed for clemency, it might actually have improved his profile if that were at all possible.
So basically you only really find it unfair because you think Bush is a "war criminal"?

Shit man, like I said, I'm no fan of Bush either, but can you not see what's wrong with that?
Look at the wider picture of what has happened in Iraq... a bogus reason to go to war, lies about WMD, a bombing campaign of "shock and awe" proportions, a society reduced to chaos, women and children slaughtered, ethnic tensions unleashed, thousands upon thousands of people injured, millions of lives ruined and while the guy responsible for kick starting all of this sits back on the ranch and enjoys his retirement an Iraqi who threw a shoe at him in disgust at the carnage inflicted on his country sits in a prison for a year.

...that's just not fair in my book. I understand the guy broke a law but in my personal opinion it pales in comparison compared to the laws broken by the man he aimed the show at.
Justice is blind, Braddock. It doesn't matter who he threw the shoes at. It was assault/attempted assault (whatever you'd like to call it).

If I kill someone who murdered a homeless guy, I'm still going to get charged with murder.
usmarine
Banned
+2,785|7064

Braddock wrote:

usmarine wrote:

Braddock wrote:

Accessory to war crime then... Bush was probably playing with his tonka truck in the corner while the hawks drew up the battle plans.
lewl

you are becoming awfully close to rammuntion posts.  replace the word war criminal with zionism and its hard to distinguish.
Says the worst poster in the entire forum. You even look bad when you are posting in the Everything Else section.
i bet if i agreed with you and your bro all the time you wouldnt say that.  you know its true so dont deny it.
Braddock
Agitator
+916|6592|Éire

usmarine wrote:

Braddock wrote:

usmarine wrote:


saddam is dead
He is. George W. Bush isn't though.
wider picture like you said dear...

you seem a bit myopic yet tell someone to widen their view.
You mean the wider picture like how the US installed Saddam in the first place and armed him with all his nice weapons?

Think before you post dude.
Braddock
Agitator
+916|6592|Éire

usmarine wrote:

Braddock wrote:

usmarine wrote:


lewl

you are becoming awfully close to rammuntion posts.  replace the word war criminal with zionism and its hard to distinguish.
Says the worst poster in the entire forum. You even look bad when you are posting in the Everything Else section.
i bet if i agreed with you and your bro all the time you wouldnt say that.  you know its true so dont deny it.
People like FEOS, Kmarion and ATG don't agree with everything I say and I have plenty of respect for them... maybe that's because they can form arguments, string sentences together and actually debate a topic seriously.
rammunition
Fully Loaded
+143|6163

Braddock wrote:

usmarine wrote:

Braddock wrote:


Says the worst poster in the entire forum. You even look bad when you are posting in the Everything Else section.
i bet if i agreed with you and your bro all the time you wouldnt say that.  you know its true so dont deny it.
People like FEOS, Kmarion and ATG don't agree with everything I say and I have plenty of respect for them... maybe that's because they can form arguments, string sentences together and actually debate a topic seriously.
QFT!
Braddock
Agitator
+916|6592|Éire

Poseidon wrote:

Braddock wrote:

Poseidon wrote:


So basically you only really find it unfair because you think Bush is a "war criminal"?

Shit man, like I said, I'm no fan of Bush either, but can you not see what's wrong with that?
Look at the wider picture of what has happened in Iraq... a bogus reason to go to war, lies about WMD, a bombing campaign of "shock and awe" proportions, a society reduced to chaos, women and children slaughtered, ethnic tensions unleashed, thousands upon thousands of people injured, millions of lives ruined and while the guy responsible for kick starting all of this sits back on the ranch and enjoys his retirement an Iraqi who threw a shoe at him in disgust at the carnage inflicted on his country sits in a prison for a year.

...that's just not fair in my book. I understand the guy broke a law but in my personal opinion it pales in comparison compared to the laws broken by the man he aimed the show at.
Justice is blind, Braddock. It doesn't matter who he threw the shoes at. It was assault/attempted assault (whatever you'd like to call it).

If I kill someone who murdered a homeless guy, I'm still going to get charged with murder.
That's true, I agree with you that a crime was committed regardless of the victim but I still feel the sentence was harsh though. I've had the absolute shit kicked out of me in the past and seen the guy walk out of court with a fine... I dunno, maybe they have loads of room in Iraqi prisons or something.
Poseidon
Fudgepack DeQueef
+3,253|6840|Long Island, New York

Braddock wrote:

Poseidon wrote:

Braddock wrote:


Look at the wider picture of what has happened in Iraq... a bogus reason to go to war, lies about WMD, a bombing campaign of "shock and awe" proportions, a society reduced to chaos, women and children slaughtered, ethnic tensions unleashed, thousands upon thousands of people injured, millions of lives ruined and while the guy responsible for kick starting all of this sits back on the ranch and enjoys his retirement an Iraqi who threw a shoe at him in disgust at the carnage inflicted on his country sits in a prison for a year.

...that's just not fair in my book. I understand the guy broke a law but in my personal opinion it pales in comparison compared to the laws broken by the man he aimed the show at.
Justice is blind, Braddock. It doesn't matter who he threw the shoes at. It was assault/attempted assault (whatever you'd like to call it).

If I kill someone who murdered a homeless guy, I'm still going to get charged with murder.
That's true, I agree with you that a crime was committed regardless of the victim but I still feel the sentence was harsh though. I've had the absolute shit kicked out of me in the past and seen the guy walk out of court with a fine... I dunno, maybe they have loads of room in Iraqi prisons or something.
As I've said in other threads about this - compared to what would've happened to him under Saddam if he threw his shoes at a foreign leader (or even at Saddam himself)...it's certainly progress.
Beduin
Compensation of Reactive Power in the grid
+510|6052|شمال

Poseidon wrote:

...it's certainly progress.
compared to how much effort done in Iraq?
No, it is not.
الشعب يريد اسقاط النظام
...show me the schematic
Poseidon
Fudgepack DeQueef
+3,253|6840|Long Island, New York

Beduin wrote:

Poseidon wrote:

...it's certainly progress.
compared to how much effort done in Iraq?
No, it is not.
You don't consider going from this man having boiling water tossed on him, his nails ripped out one by one, fingers broken and limbs severed while his family is raped and killed in front of him to a year in jail for assault/attempted assault progress?

lol.
Beduin
Compensation of Reactive Power in the grid
+510|6052|شمال

Poseidon wrote:

Beduin wrote:

Poseidon wrote:

...it's certainly progress.
compared to how much effort done in Iraq?
No, it is not.
You don't consider going from this man having boiling water tossed on him, his nails ripped out one by one, fingers broken and limbs severed while his family is raped and killed in front of him to a year in jail for assault/attempted assault progress?

lol.
Compared to the effort the world is paying, no. We got ripped off.
-utilitarianism ftw. 

Not to mention Afghanistan, but thats offtopic.

Last edited by Beduin (2009-04-08 10:01:47)

الشعب يريد اسقاط النظام
...show me the schematic
Poseidon
Fudgepack DeQueef
+3,253|6840|Long Island, New York

Beduin wrote:

Poseidon wrote:

Beduin wrote:


compared to how much effort done in Iraq?
No, it is not.
You don't consider going from this man having boiling water tossed on him, his nails ripped out one by one, fingers broken and limbs severed while his family is raped and killed in front of him to a year in jail for assault/attempted assault progress?

lol.
Compared to the effort the world is paying, no. We got ripped off.
-utilitarianism ftw. 

Not to mention Afghanistan, but thats offtopic.
What the hell did you expect to happen in 6 years? Flowers and candy to rain from the sky when it rains and sounds of laughter instead of thunder?

It's going to take time for Iraq to progress - it ever fully does, which I doubt.
Vilham
Say wat!?
+580|7068|UK

Braddock wrote:

Poseidon wrote:

Braddock wrote:


Look at the wider picture of what has happened in Iraq... a bogus reason to go to war, lies about WMD, a bombing campaign of "shock and awe" proportions, a society reduced to chaos, women and children slaughtered, ethnic tensions unleashed, thousands upon thousands of people injured, millions of lives ruined and while the guy responsible for kick starting all of this sits back on the ranch and enjoys his retirement an Iraqi who threw a shoe at him in disgust at the carnage inflicted on his country sits in a prison for a year.

...that's just not fair in my book. I understand the guy broke a law but in my personal opinion it pales in comparison compared to the laws broken by the man he aimed the show at.
Justice is blind, Braddock. It doesn't matter who he threw the shoes at. It was assault/attempted assault (whatever you'd like to call it).

If I kill someone who murdered a homeless guy, I'm still going to get charged with murder.
That's true, I agree with you that a crime was committed regardless of the victim but I still feel the sentence was harsh though. I've had the absolute shit kicked out of me in the past and seen the guy walk out of court with a fine... I dunno, maybe they have loads of room in Iraqi prisons or something.
His sentence is a year less than the maximum. How is it harsh? Its their law. He broke it. Deal with it.
mikkel
Member
+383|6903

Vilham wrote:

Braddock wrote:

Lucky my ass... serving even just one year for missing a war criminal with your shoes is still a harsh punishment in my book.
You views are so unbelievably hypocritical you know that right?

No matter how you look at this it's assault.

And lol, I don't believe there is such a crime as attempted assault.
Assault with a shoe? Is this the pussified legal definition of the term you're using, or are you seriously suggesting that it realistically qualifies as assault, and that it should warrant years in jail? I hope for your sake that the latter isn't it.

It's a fucking shoe, guys. Get real.
usmarine
Banned
+2,785|7064

Braddock wrote:

usmarine wrote:

Braddock wrote:


He is. George W. Bush isn't though.
wider picture like you said dear...

you seem a bit myopic yet tell someone to widen their view.
You mean the wider picture like how the US installed Saddam in the first place and armed him with all his nice weapons?

Think before you post dude.
think before i post.....lol

yes and how he abused that and invaded kuwait and gassed his own people.  i dont quite get what you are saying rammudock.
usmarine
Banned
+2,785|7064

Braddock wrote:

and actually debate a topic seriously.
where was i not serious?  you babbling about war criminals and such when the topic is about something completely different is serious?  wow ok.  see, thats why you only get a few words rammudock.  because you are very very one sided and take threads in different directions.  see, ATG and FEOS think they might change your mind or something.  i know better and you are not worth more than a few sentences. 

oh...and GS responds exactly how i do.  usually a few words or a few lines.  and you dont cry then.  so stop being a baby.

Last edited by usmarine (2009-04-08 11:40:08)

Man With No Name
جندي
+148|5877|The Wild West
we live in a land of laws.  when the laws get broekn, you will be punished.  if you didnt have a criminal record before chances are you wont be punished as severely as if you did. 


the reporter broke the law.  end of story.
usmarine
Banned
+2,785|7064

Man With No Name wrote:

we live in a land of laws.  when the laws get broekn, you will be punished.  if you didnt have a criminal record before chances are you wont be punished as severely as if you did. 


the reporter broke the law.  end of story.
but zomg bush is a war criminal.......

more sentences next time also pls.
Spearhead
Gulf coast redneck hippy
+731|6992|Tampa Bay Florida
If you try fucking with a powerful world leader (or just someone with a lot of money in general) expect to be punished no matter what you did.... 3 years may have been a little long but I think if someone in America tried that they'd most likely get the exact same sentence...
M.O.A.B
'Light 'em up!'
+1,220|6525|Escea

Braddock wrote:

destruktion_6143 wrote:

Braddock wrote:

Lucky my ass... serving even just one year for missing a war criminal with your shoes is still a harsh punishment in my book.
Throw a shoe at Our Dear Leader, and I will personally gut you.
Me and Kim go way back... he has an awesome DVD collection. We often while away the hours munching on imported popcorn and watching European arthouse films.
LIES!

Kimmy's favourtie movie is Rambo.

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