Owned.
Iran Contra Part 2?
You should know that first-hand experience means nothing here, as you can't source it. Unless of course your experience is in agreement with someone else, then it's OK.FatherTed wrote:
How about i live in Ireland?lowing wrote:
Yeah okFatherTed wrote:
Irelands really not. Thanks for the armalites.
do some googling, I have.
lol
“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
And the French .rdx-fx wrote:
Works for me.CameronPoe wrote:
My ancestors didn't die in battle so I could be ruled by fucking foreigners.rdx-fx wrote:
the Irish (UK?) government
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Clontarf
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Callann
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desmond_Rebellions
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nine_Years_War_(Ireland)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_Rebellion_of_1641
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_the_Boyne
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1798_rebellion
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Easter_Rising
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_War_of_Independence
1776 was a rough year for us too.
Xbone Stormsurgezz
slightly off topic...
as far as i know he didnt sell any weapons to Iran...lol
My Ancestor... Daniel O'Connell...Dónal Ó Conaill
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_O%27Connell
one of his quotes
"Gentlemen, you may soon have the alternative to live as slaves or die as free men" (speaking in Mallow, County Cork)
as far as i know he didnt sell any weapons to Iran...lol
My Ancestor... Daniel O'Connell...Dónal Ó Conaill
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_O%27Connell
one of his quotes
"Gentlemen, you may soon have the alternative to live as slaves or die as free men" (speaking in Mallow, County Cork)
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Love is the answer
Ok, well then, my opinion on gun control is not to be argued against, and why? "How about" because I live here.FEOS wrote:
You should know that first-hand experience means nothing here, as you can't source it. Unless of course your experience is in agreement with someone else, then it's OK.FatherTed wrote:
How about i live in Ireland?lowing wrote:
Yeah ok
do some googling, I have.
lol
I am guessing that, "because I live here" is not much of a case. Whatcha think?
That's exactly what I'm getting at...people here are pretty ridiculously fickle about accepting first-hand experience on something.lowing wrote:
Ok, well then, my opinion on gun control is not to be argued against, and why? "How about" because I live here.FEOS wrote:
You should know that first-hand experience means nothing here, as you can't source it. Unless of course your experience is in agreement with someone else, then it's OK.FatherTed wrote:
How about i live in Ireland?
lol
I am guessing that, "because I live here" is not much of a case. Whatcha think?
Wasn't a slam on you, lowing.
“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
Gun control isn't something unique to your country.
the Irish opinion of the USA however, is.
the Irish opinion of the USA however, is.
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Always raining and foggy
Use an umbrella
Always raining and foggy
Use an umbrella
Let me try a different approach,FatherTed wrote:
Gun control isn't something unique to your country.
the Irish opinion of the USA however, is.
Just because you live in Ireland, does not make you the authority of Irish attitude toward the US. Just like my living in the US does not make me the authority of issues regarding the US.
(Except the French, all of us Americans pretty much agree the French suck)
No, i get where you're coming from. I'd say the Catholic Irish on a whole like you lot though. And every American i've met in real life seems to like the Irish too, so that's all nice.lowing wrote:
Let me try a different approach,FatherTed wrote:
Gun control isn't something unique to your country.
the Irish opinion of the USA however, is.
Just because you live in Ireland, does not make you the authority of Irish attitude toward the US. Just like my living in the US does not make me the authority of issues regarding the US.
(Except the French, all of us Americans pretty much agree the French suck)
And noone likes the French. Nice country though.
Small hourglass island
Always raining and foggy
Use an umbrella
Always raining and foggy
Use an umbrella
You can't speak for everybody!FatherTed wrote:
No, i get where you're coming from. I'd say the Catholic Irish on a whole like you lot though. And every American i've met in real life seems to like the Irish too, so that's all nice.lowing wrote:
Let me try a different approach,FatherTed wrote:
Gun control isn't something unique to your country.
the Irish opinion of the USA however, is.
Just because you live in Ireland, does not make you the authority of Irish attitude toward the US. Just like my living in the US does not make me the authority of issues regarding the US.
(Except the French, all of us Americans pretty much agree the French suck)
And noone likes the French. Nice country though.
Then again. I pretty much didn't like the French.
Whoa... Can't believe these forums are still kicking.
they are trying to say Irish are terrorists I remember while back when they tried saying Serbia was selling weapons to Iraq it was on 60 minutes lol fucking phonies.....lowing wrote:
Not sure what I am missing, but what does the US have to do with the Irish selling anything to anyone?Braddock wrote:
"An Irish trading company has been charged with sending helicopter engines and other aircraft parts to Iran, according to an indictment unveiled in a US federal court today. The 25-count indictment charges Mac Aviation of Drumcliffe in Co. Sligo, and three of its officers of buying the components from US companies and sending them to Iran through Malaysia and other countries. The US Justice Department says the recipients included an Iranian military firm, Iran Aircraft Manufacturing Industrial, that the United States has designated as a “weapons of mass destruction proliferator” for involvement in Iran’s alleged nuclear and ballistic missile programme. Justice Department officials said they are seeking the arrest and deportation of the Irishmen: 72-year-old company owner Tom McGuinn; his 40-year-old son Sean McGuinn, the sales director; and commercial manager Sean Byrne.
The indictment, or charge sheet, says that in the three years before charges were filed under seal in July 2008, Mac Aviation bought US aircraft engines and parts while concealing that they were ultimately heading to customers in Iran. The indictment charges each of the Mac Aviation officials with two counts of conspiracy, 19 counts of violating the International Emergency Economic Powers Act and Iranian Transactions Regulations, four counts of false statements and forfeiture allegations. If convicted, the defendants face maximum sentences of 10-20 years in prison for each of the IEEPA counts, 5-20 years in prison for each of the conspiracy counts, and five years in prison for each of the false statement counts."
Source: http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/eyaumhsnidau/
Thoughts?
They screwed up. They should've hired Yuri Orlov to deliver the goods.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4owrAmvZLE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4owrAmvZLE
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How you can argue that Ireland is anti-American when for the last eight years our Government has been effectively violating its own neutrality by allowing US military flights to pass through Shannon en route to Afghanistan and Iraq is quite beyond me lowing. Our Government has been tossing America's salad for as long as I can remember. The Irish Government has never been anti-American... in fact the Irish people have never even been particularly anti-American, for the last eight years many were anti-Bush but anti-American? No sir, we're too busy being anti-British! Check out the scenes on the streets of Ireland when Clinton visited or when Obama was elected if you want proof of my claims.lowing wrote:
Let me try a different approach,FatherTed wrote:
Gun control isn't something unique to your country.
the Irish opinion of the USA however, is.
Just because you live in Ireland, does not make you the authority of Irish attitude toward the US. Just like my living in the US does not make me the authority of issues regarding the US.
(Except the French, all of us Americans pretty much agree the French suck)
Your only one Irishman, what would you know?Braddock wrote:
How you can argue that Ireland is anti-American when for the last eight years our Government has been effectively violating its own neutrality by allowing US military flights to pass through Shannon en route to Afghanistan and Iraq is quite beyond me lowing. Our Government has been tossing America's salad for as long as I can remember. The Irish Government has never been anti-American... in fact the Irish people have never even been particularly anti-American, for the last eight years many were anti-Bush but anti-American? No sir, we're too busy being anti-British! Check out the scenes on the streets of Ireland when Clinton visited or when Obama was elected if you want proof of my claims.lowing wrote:
Let me try a different approach,FatherTed wrote:
Gun control isn't something unique to your country.
the Irish opinion of the USA however, is.
Just because you live in Ireland, does not make you the authority of Irish attitude toward the US. Just like my living in the US does not make me the authority of issues regarding the US.
(Except the French, all of us Americans pretty much agree the French suck)
/sarcasm
Small hourglass island
Always raining and foggy
Use an umbrella
Always raining and foggy
Use an umbrella
Actually I'm three Irishman... I have a wikipedia link to prove it too.FatherTed wrote:
Your only one Irishman, what would you know?Braddock wrote:
How you can argue that Ireland is anti-American when for the last eight years our Government has been effectively violating its own neutrality by allowing US military flights to pass through Shannon en route to Afghanistan and Iraq is quite beyond me lowing. Our Government has been tossing America's salad for as long as I can remember. The Irish Government has never been anti-American... in fact the Irish people have never even been particularly anti-American, for the last eight years many were anti-Bush but anti-American? No sir, we're too busy being anti-British! Check out the scenes on the streets of Ireland when Clinton visited or when Obama was elected if you want proof of my claims.lowing wrote:
Let me try a different approach,
Just because you live in Ireland, does not make you the authority of Irish attitude toward the US. Just like my living in the US does not make me the authority of issues regarding the US.
(Except the French, all of us Americans pretty much agree the French suck)
/sarcasm
Ive been to Shannon!
i gave her a good seeing too as well.
Blackbelts are just whitebelts who have never quit.
Knock ftw
Last edited by FatherTed (2009-03-27 16:28:37)
Small hourglass island
Always raining and foggy
Use an umbrella
Always raining and foggy
Use an umbrella
I dont understand your mr bean humor
dude are you like really a fan of Martin Freeland?
Blackbelts are just whitebelts who have never quit.
Martin Freeland is a fan of mem3thod wrote:
dude are you like really a fan of Martin Freeland?
same. we should start a support group.Man With No Name wrote:
Ive been to Shannon!
i'm telling you, Knock ftw.
Anywhere apart from fucking belfast international
Anywhere apart from fucking belfast international
Small hourglass island
Always raining and foggy
Use an umbrella
Always raining and foggy
Use an umbrella
If more than 10% of the components for a product are from the US, it can't be sold to Iran.AussieReaper wrote:
How does the US have jurisdiction over an Irish company?
Is it because the products originated in the US?
However, the only real exceptions I can think of to the embargo by the US are aircraft parts that the US allowed Boeing to sell them. If the US make exceptions to sell aircraft parts to them, it can't be that bad....