Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6708|North Carolina

usmarine wrote:

i am talking aboot street level stuff.  you know, car stealing, robbery, etc.
Wouldn't that be better solved by addressing the root causes of poverty?
Switch
Knee Deep In Clunge
+489|6766|Tyne & Wear, England
My care cup is empty when it comes to Britain being a 'surveillance society'.

It doesn't affect me what-so-ever, I have nothing to hide.
Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known.
usmarine
Banned
+2,785|7064

Turquoise wrote:

usmarine wrote:

i am talking aboot street level stuff.  you know, car stealing, robbery, etc.
Wouldn't that be better solved by addressing the root causes of poverty?
so your solution is to abolish poverty?

no offence but isnt that a little "sally struthers" of you?
Scorpion0x17
can detect anyone's visible post count...
+691|7068|Cambridge (UK)
Meh, if it stops chavs stealing old-ladies hand-bags (just as an example) it's fine by me.
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6708|North Carolina

Switch wrote:

My care cup is empty when it comes to Britain being a 'surveillance society'.

It doesn't affect me what-so-ever, I have nothing to hide.
Now I see why Alan Moore feels the way that he does.
Mekstizzle
WALKER
+3,611|6924|London, England

Switch wrote:

My care cup is empty when it comes to Britain being a 'surveillance society'.

It doesn't affect me what-so-ever, I have nothing to hide.
True, but all these laws and shit are open for abuse. Remember how they used anti-terror laws against Iceland? Due to the financial crisis and all that, I mean it was all fun and games laughing at the Icelanders and calling them terrorist bastards, but at the end of the day, it was still some serious abuse going on there
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6708|North Carolina

usmarine wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

usmarine wrote:

i am talking aboot street level stuff.  you know, car stealing, robbery, etc.
Wouldn't that be better solved by addressing the root causes of poverty?
so your solution is to abolish poverty?

no offence but isnt that a little "sally struthers" of you?
You know it's not that simple.

Social programs are important, and so is making sure that ex-cons properly integrate back into society.  There are so many more cost effective ways to address crime than to turn your society into a fucking Orwellian joke.
Scorpion0x17
can detect anyone's visible post count...
+691|7068|Cambridge (UK)

Mekstizzle wrote:

Remember how they used anti-terror laws against Iceland? Due to the financial crisis and all that


link me up, plskthx.
Switch
Knee Deep In Clunge
+489|6766|Tyne & Wear, England

Mekstizzle wrote:

Switch wrote:

My care cup is empty when it comes to Britain being a 'surveillance society'.

It doesn't affect me what-so-ever, I have nothing to hide.
True, but all these laws and shit are open for abuse. Remember how they used anti-terror laws against Iceland? Due to the financial crisis and all that, I mean it was all fun and games laughing at the Icelanders and calling them terrorist bastards, but at the end of the day, it was still some serious abuse going on there
Meh, just getting them back after the cod wars.
Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known.
Mekstizzle
WALKER
+3,611|6924|London, England

Scorpion0x17 wrote:

Mekstizzle wrote:

Remember how they used anti-terror laws against Iceland? Due to the financial crisis and all that


link me up, plskthx.
It was a pretty big deal, you never heard of it?


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7688560.stm
m3thod
All kiiiiiiiiinds of gainz
+2,197|6974|UK
Here they are:

Thornton Road Crossroads in Bradford, busy intersection on the way to the station.

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?hl=en&amp … 6037735834

There are on top of the traffic lights and on the poles.

https://i39.tinypic.com/2gviw5f.jpg

Last edited by m3thod (2009-03-22 16:02:12)

Blackbelts are just whitebelts who have never quit.
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6708|North Carolina

Mekstizzle wrote:

Scorpion0x17 wrote:

Mekstizzle wrote:

Remember how they used anti-terror laws against Iceland? Due to the financial crisis and all that


link me up, plskthx.
It was a pretty big deal, you never heard of it?


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7688560.stm
Wow...  that's pretty fucked up.
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|6903|132 and Bush

The slope is slippery.
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Scorpion0x17
can detect anyone's visible post count...
+691|7068|Cambridge (UK)

Turquoise wrote:

Mekstizzle wrote:

Scorpion0x17 wrote:



link me up, plskthx.
It was a pretty big deal, you never heard of it?


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7688560.stm
Wow...  that's pretty fucked up.
But also pretty funny.

Last edited by Scorpion0x17 (2009-03-22 16:06:04)

Switch
Knee Deep In Clunge
+489|6766|Tyne & Wear, England

m3thod wrote:

Here they are:

Thornton Road Crossroads in Bradford, busy intersection on the way to the station.

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?hl=en&amp … 6037735834

There are on top of the traffic lights and on the poles.

http://i39.tinypic.com/2gviw5f.jpg
I rarely see survelence cameras up here.  We Northeners are far too dosile and don't need to be kept in check.

Maybe I would care more if there were plenty about, who knows?
Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known.
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|6903|132 and Bush

Mekstizzle wrote:

Scorpion0x17 wrote:

Mekstizzle wrote:

Remember how they used anti-terror laws against Iceland? Due to the financial crisis and all that


link me up, plskthx.
It was a pretty big deal, you never heard of it?


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7688560.stm
https://i43.tinypic.com/1rvtw2.jpg
The kid on the right looks a little suspect.

We're going to need to water board him. Make sure he's not a sleeper.
Xbone Stormsurgezz
jsnipy
...
+3,277|6825|...

"Suspicion breeds confidence"
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|6903|132 and Bush

jsnipy wrote:

"Suspicion breeds confidence"
or paranoia.. See Salem witch trials/Spanish inquisition/Red scare..
Xbone Stormsurgezz
Flecco
iPod is broken.
+1,048|6968|NT, like Mick Dundee

Public apathy leading to a country becoming steadily more totalitarian in nature until eventually all public freedom is lost.





OH SHIT V FOR VENDETTA. (no not the movie, that crap about the virus and the government being terrorists should never have been added kthnxm8)
Whoa... Can't believe these forums are still kicking.
FEOS
Bellicose Yankee Air Pirate
+1,182|6714|'Murka

Snake wrote:

Threatened? By what? So I'm on camera, big deal. I don't do anything wrong. I don't commit crimes. So why should I care? Answer: I don't care.

Crime will always be a part of all countries, we will never eradicate it completely: hence minimising it is the only real solution. If CCTV's are part of that solution, then so be it. They can watch me drive my car or walk along the street as much as they want to.
^this.

Now, if they are installing cameras in your home, monitoring your phone calls (so long as you aren't calling Waziristan to plan the big jihad), monitoring your internet (so long as you aren't planning the big jihad with someone outside your country), etc...that's a different story altogether.
“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
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Varegg
Support fanatic :-)
+2,206|7113|Nårvei

Cameras in a public place is a tad different than tapping a private phone tbh ...
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FEOS
Bellicose Yankee Air Pirate
+1,182|6714|'Murka

Varegg wrote:

Cameras in a public place is a tad different than tapping a private phone tbh ...
Not if you're prone to seeing the sky fall.
“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein

Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
usmarine
Banned
+2,785|7064

Varegg wrote:

Cameras in a public place is a tad different than tapping a private phone tbh ...
no way?  wow...thanks varegg.  i dont know the difference,
Varegg
Support fanatic :-)
+2,206|7113|Nårvei

usmarine wrote:

Varegg wrote:

Cameras in a public place is a tad different than tapping a private phone tbh ...
no way?  wow...thanks varegg.  i dont know the difference,
Seeing as you thought both was okay I kinda doubt it
Wait behind the line ..............................................................
usmarine
Banned
+2,785|7064

Varegg wrote:

usmarine wrote:

Varegg wrote:

Cameras in a public place is a tad different than tapping a private phone tbh ...
no way?  wow...thanks varegg.  i dont know the difference,
Seeing as you thought both was okay I kinda doubt it
no.. the reasons i dont have any real issue with either is the same as what i quoted.

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