hehe.CameronPoe wrote:
lolDBBrinson1 wrote:
Nah. Justice has been served.CameronPoe wrote:
Perhaps the President of Iraq should heed the giant groundswell of support for a pardon to be given? That's legal too...
Haud the battle bus, I thought we weren't allowed to kill any guilty person now so they'd all end up in the prisons anyway for us to pay for?CameronPoe wrote:
If the world was governed in the manner you see fit then I'd better invest in prison construction. Ker-ching...... $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$Lotta_Drool wrote:
In your world all you need is plexiglass and security guards, if those fail like in this case, you just fine the person $15 a throw and let the carnival begin.
Can I get that lemonaide now?
Ask your president.Lotta_Drool wrote:
Oh noes, all I have is a $5 bill, can you make change for me?
People guilty of say, murder, drug trafficking, fraud, rape, repeat offences, etc. I take it you are an advocate of the death penalty?M.O.A.B wrote:
Haud the battle bus, I thought we weren't allowed to kill any guilty person now so they'd all end up in the prisons anyway for us to pay for?
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fyi, my president is black according to the media and other people who define blackness. I am a member of an unracist country, where's your black president.CameronPoe wrote:
Ask your president.Lotta_Drool wrote:
Oh noes, all I have is a $5 bill, can you make change for me?
We have a chick as president so we're evens.Lotta_Drool wrote:
fyi, my president is black according to the media and other people who define blackness. I am a member of an unracist country, where's your black president.CameronPoe wrote:
Ask your president.Lotta_Drool wrote:
Oh noes, all I have is a $5 bill, can you make change for me?
Racist Irish Clover Muncher.
cause using that logic will not gain anything.Turquoise wrote:
People always forget this. I don't know why.Poseidon wrote:
A lot better than what he would've gotten under Saddam if he threw the shoe at Saddam.
Aka his family raped, tortured and killed in front of his eyes and then 10x worse for him.
Just sayin'.
Shit, I am going to vote for a black chick next time. Especially if she is disabled or a lesbian.CameronPoe wrote:
We have a chick as president so we're evens.Lotta_Drool wrote:
fyi, my president is black according to the media and other people who define blackness. I am a member of an unracist country, where's your black president.CameronPoe wrote:
Ask your president.
Racist Irish Clover Muncher.
What does that have to do with anything? Not to mention, as MOAB pointed out, what you're implying is false.rammunition wrote:
and who appointed Saddam Hussein???Poseidon wrote:
A lot better than what he would've gotten under Saddam if he threw the shoe at Saddam.
Aka his family raped, tortured and killed in front of his eyes and then 10x worse for him.
Just sayin'.
go look it up kiddo
Of course they do. It's convenient.Turquoise wrote:
People always forget this. I don't know why.Poseidon wrote:
A lot better than what he would've gotten under Saddam if he threw the shoe at Saddam.
Aka his family raped, tortured and killed in front of his eyes and then 10x worse for him.
Just sayin'.
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Facts are inconvenient. Stop it.M.O.A.B wrote:
A guy here got two years for murder, that's because we have a crap punishment system. Throwing a shoe at someone is close to (if not) assault, and assaulting a very powerful politician is not a smart move.Braddock wrote:
I don't get it... if you start a huge, bloody war on bogus grounds resulting in the deaths of thousands upon thousands of people and the destruction of countless lives you get to retire and enjoy a sideline in after-dinner speaking but if you miss someone with your shoes you get three years?Saddam was part of the Ba'ath party that led a coup and overthrew the president in the late 60's and then rose up to become the president. Saddam pretty much appointed himself.rammunition wrote:
and who appointed Saddam Hussein???Poseidon wrote:
A lot better than what he would've gotten under Saddam if he threw the shoe at Saddam.
Aka his family raped, tortured and killed in front of his eyes and then 10x worse for him.
Just sayin'.
go look it up kiddo
The leader of a country isn't "some randomer in the street". Get real, Cam.CameronPoe wrote:
If I threw a shoe at some randomer in the street would I do time - no I would not. I might get a fine or at the very worst a suspended sentence. What makes a President so special? I thought we were beyond the age of kings? The point stands - this is pathetic.FEOS wrote:
So if you chucked something at a visiting head of state in Ireland, you wouldn't do any jail time?CameronPoe wrote:
The man who threw his shoes at President George Bush has been sentenced to three years in prison. Disgraceful. You wouldn't even do time in any normal nation. Subservient scum.
You certainly would just about everywhere else in the world...if you were lucky.
How do you know that the standard for assault in Iraq isn't a minimum of 3 years, regardless of the target of the assault?CameronPoe wrote:
Special treatment like personal security, dedicated transport, accommodation, communications and other services - not special treatment under the law: that's called monarchy.Cybargs wrote:
Dude. He is the President, of course he is more worthy. He is a head of state of another country. Whether we can debate about equality all day, we all know presidents get special treatments.CameronPoe wrote:
Now that's pathetic. You are less worthy than another, in your opinion. You regard certain other humans as being entitled to special treatment. It so doesn't mesh with your railing against big government attitude. Weird.
I would imagine he believes it was worth it.CameronPoe wrote:
The man who threw his shoes at President George Bush has been sentenced to three years in prison. Disgraceful. You wouldn't even do time in any normal nation. Subservient scum.
Crap forgot about that, its a habit of mineFEOS wrote:
Facts are inconvenient. Stop it.M.O.A.B wrote:
A guy here got two years for murder, that's because we have a crap punishment system. Throwing a shoe at someone is close to (if not) assault, and assaulting a very powerful politician is not a smart move.Braddock wrote:
I don't get it... if you start a huge, bloody war on bogus grounds resulting in the deaths of thousands upon thousands of people and the destruction of countless lives you get to retire and enjoy a sideline in after-dinner speaking but if you miss someone with your shoes you get three years?Saddam was part of the Ba'ath party that led a coup and overthrew the president in the late 60's and then rose up to become the president. Saddam pretty much appointed himself.rammunition wrote:
and who appointed Saddam Hussein???
go look it up kiddo
Ah the old wide spectrum ploy. You listed two, Al Qaeda and drug dealing in a country that has a militia presence and is classed as a warzone to an extent.CameronPoe wrote:
People guilty of say, murder, drug trafficking, fraud, rape, repeat offences, etc. I take it you are an advocate of the death penalty?M.O.A.B wrote:
Haud the battle bus, I thought we weren't allowed to kill any guilty person now so they'd all end up in the prisons anyway for us to pay for?
That depends on where you are. It also depends on the lawyer of the guy/girl you threw the shoe at.CameronPoe wrote:
If I threw a shoe at some randomer in the street would I do time - no I would not. I might get a fine or at the very worst a suspended sentence. What makes a President so special? I thought we were beyond the age of kings? The point stands - this is pathetic.FEOS wrote:
So if you chucked something at a visiting head of state in Ireland, you wouldn't do any jail time?CameronPoe wrote:
The man who threw his shoes at President George Bush has been sentenced to three years in prison. Disgraceful. You wouldn't even do time in any normal nation. Subservient scum.
You certainly would just about everywhere else in the world...if you were lucky.
I have no problems with a couple of months of community service or a measured spell in jail if it's first offence. McAleese can bite me if she thinks someone who attacks her deserves more of a punishment than someone who attacks a person who voted for her.Turquoise wrote:
That depends on where you are. It also depends on the lawyer of the guy/girl you threw the shoe at.
You gotta admit, if somebody threw a shoe at Mary McAleese while she was at a press conference, that person would definitely serve at least a few months of prison or community service.
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You hit the nail on the head right there. Iraq is a war zone - only yesterday we saw another suicide bombing. Slightly more pressing an issue than the throwing of shoes as a symbolical stand. I guess what I take issue with is the Iraqi legal system. It seems to lack measure and proportionality, in this instance anyway. I fully expected 2-3 months - but three years!?M.O.A.B wrote:
Ah the old wide spectrum ploy. You listed two, Al Qaeda and drug dealing in a country that has a militia presence and is classed as a warzone to an extent.
Al Qaeda is a terrorist group that aims to murder, assassinate and cause unrest. Drug dealing in the instance of Afghanistan creates funds that can be used toward groups such as AQ and the less AQ members and their associated that there are, the better. If you want to spend your own money along the line to help feed and shelter someone who gives about as much thought to your welfare as the dogshit on their shoe, be my guest. Personally the only way to deal with someone with so much hate racked up in their mind, who would kill anyone they saw as different in the blink of an eye given the chance, is to shoot them and be done.
Sorry that warfare isn't all lengthy sentences that are always guaranteed to rehabilitate them and spew out healthy new workers to the economy. When you have a disease you don't nurture and look after it, you kill it and get rid of it. AQ is a disease to the ME and all of the people who live there, the soon its cut out and killed, the better.
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Yeah 3 years seems a bit excessive.[TUF]Catbox wrote:
I bet if they asked Bush... he probably would say... ahhh... give him some community service...
If someone said they didn't like Sadam hussein and it was overheard in public when sadam was in power... he would be killed... his family raped and killed... I call that progress over there...
What? I didn't see a Bush response... You bet he'd say? Come on. Bush kept border patrol guards in jail that were blatantly innocent (until his final days) for shooting an illegal drug smuggler. According to the camp from the left Bush invaded Iraq because Saddam attacked his daddy.[TUF]Catbox wrote:
I bet if they asked Bush... he probably would say... ahhh... give him some community service...
If someone said they didn't like Sadam hussein and it was overheard in public when sadam was in power... he would be killed... his family raped and killed... I call that progress over there...
and i am enjoying that this 3 year jail sentence... has gotten cams panties in a bunch for most of this afternoon...
and anything that upsets ramtard cant be all that bad...lol
maybe something like this might be more worthy of your time and upset feelings
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090312/ap_ … idnappings
You take it a lot harder than Bush did. He made a joke about a "size ten" and shrugged it off as something that happens in free societies.DBBrinson1 wrote:
What? I didn't see a Bush response... You bet he'd say? Come on. Bush kept border patrol guards in jail that were blatantly innocent (until his final days) for shooting an illegal drug smuggler. According to the camp from the left Bush invaded Iraq because Saddam attacked his daddy.[TUF]Catbox wrote:
I bet if they asked Bush... he probably would say... ahhh... give him some community service...
If someone said they didn't like Sadam hussein and it was overheard in public when sadam was in power... he would be killed... his family raped and killed... I call that progress over there...
and i am enjoying that this 3 year jail sentence... has gotten cams panties in a bunch for most of this afternoon...
and anything that upsets ramtard cant be all that bad...lol
maybe something like this might be more worthy of your time and upset feelings
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090312/ap_ … idnappings
The fucker assaulted our (my) President. I'd a shot him. I did mess with cam too though. hehe.
Two points...DBBrinson1 wrote:
I don't really know what to tell you since I disagree with you on the War. Bush did his job. Saddam is gone. Iraq can begin its rebuilding.Braddock wrote:
I don't get it... if you start a huge, bloody war on bogus grounds resulting in the deaths of thousands upon thousands of people and the destruction of countless lives you get to retire and enjoy a sideline in after-dinner speaking but if you miss someone with your shoes you get three years?
The shoe chucker assaulted a foreign leader. Three years is a joke. I'd have given him at least 5.