Computer turns off in 1sec when CPU is in the socket :S

2009-02-27 12:10:03

#1

']['error.V2: Om nom nom nom; +48|6001

So here's the deal:

I've bought some hardware from a friend of mine:

CPU's:
AMD athlon 2000
AMD athlon 2600

RAM:
4 x 256mb 333mhz
2x 256mb 400mhz

PSU's:
1 x 350W PSU
1x 225W

Motherboards:
Asrock K7S41GX
ASUS a7v8x-x

GPU:
nvidea 400 thingy 64mb
and some other GPU with no name on it

Now the problem is: the PC seems to shut down with a cpu in the socket, with both motherboards.
The PSU's are ok, I've tested them. I even ripped out another 300W psu from a working PC I have lying around and the problem still occurs.
then ripped all the hardware out except the cpu's, problem still occurring.
swapped CPU's around, problem still there.
took the CPU out of the socket, but with the cpu fan still connected: fan keeps running.

Am I doing something wrong!?

Both cpu's/ motherboards can't be broken, I saw both CPU's working in one of the motherboards at my friends house a month back.

2009-02-27 12:43:27

#2

Ioan92: Member; +337|5910

I' don't think ill nail it but...

It sounds to me like those CPUs are overheating. Did you apply thermal paste on the CPU before putting the heatsink on?

2009-02-27 12:45:33

#3

.Sup: be nice; +2,646|6641|The Twilight Zone

']['error.V2 wrote:
took the CPU out of the socket, but with the cpu fan still connected: fan keeps running.

Don't quite understand this part. Can you explain step-by-step what exactly did you do?

https://www.shrani.si/f/3H/7h/45GTw71U/untitled-1.png

2009-02-27 12:49:04

#4

']['error.V2: Om nom nom nom; +48|6001

Ioan92 wrote:
I' don't think ill nail it but...

It sounds to me like those CPUs are overheating. Did you apply thermal paste on the CPU before putting the heatsink on?

ehm no .

When I saw the cpu's working at his place there was some old hard paste on the cpu's / heatsink, they worked fine. I removed the paste here though, but even without paste, the won't overheat that fast would they?

Maybe I'm wrong, this is my first experience with AMD.

2009-02-27 12:51:05

#5

.Sup: be nice; +2,646|6641|The Twilight Zone

']['error.V2 wrote:
Ioan92 wrote:
I' don't think ill nail it but...

It sounds to me like those CPUs are overheating. Did you apply thermal paste on the CPU before putting the heatsink on?
ehm no .

When I saw the cpu's working at his place there was some old hard paste on the cpu's / heatsink, they worked fine. I removed the paste here though, but even without paste, the won't overheat that fast would they?

Maybe I'm wrong, this is my first experience with AMD.

heh they overheat extremely fast without the paste, depends how straight the cpu is. Always when taking the cooler off the cpu reapply the paste

2009-02-27 12:52:26

#6

GC_PaNzerFIN: Work and study @ Technical Uni; +528|6601|Finland

OMG.

OMG.

OMG.

They DO overheat extremely fast without the paste!

Edit: Athlons don't even have heat spreaders so the cooling surface are is tiny.... now take a good look if you see physical damage on the core?

Last edited by GC_PaNzerFIN (2009-02-27 12:53:25)

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2009-02-27 12:55:45

#7

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Last edited by GC_PaNzerFIN (2009-02-27 12:56:08)

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2009-02-27 12:56:57

#8

Ioan92: Member; +337|5910

']['error.V2 wrote:
Ioan92 wrote:
I' don't think ill nail it but...

It sounds to me like those CPUs are overheating. Did you apply thermal paste on the CPU before putting the heatsink on?
ehm no .

When I saw the cpu's working at his place there was some old hard paste on the cpu's / heatsink, they worked fine. I removed the paste here though, but even without paste, the won't overheat that fast would they?

Maybe I'm wrong, this is my first experience with AMD.

Without paste?! Of course they will. Central Processing Units will shut down if temperature gets over their limits.

Thermal paste is made to fill the gaps between the CPU and the Heatsink. Without it, there is poor heat transfer which leads to higher temperatures, temps that your CPU's won't like; causing them the shut down.

Last edited by Ioan92 (2009-02-27 13:02:29)

2009-02-27 14:09:35

#9

CrazeD: Member; +368|6860|Maine

GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NxNUK3U73SI

That's without a heatsink entirely...

Running without paste won't increase your temps that dramatically. Athlon XP's can get DAMN hot before they are in the danger zone.

2009-02-27 14:11:47

#10

GC_PaNzerFIN: Work and study @ Technical Uni; +528|6601|Finland

CrazeD wrote:
GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NxNUK3U73SI
That's without a heatsink entirely...

Running without paste won't increase your temps that dramatically. Athlon XP's can get DAMN hot before they are in the danger zone.

I know but it was kinda related to this thread. what difference a heat spreader can have...

edit: and I have seen more than couple fried Athlons that were used without paste

Last edited by GC_PaNzerFIN (2009-02-27 14:12:44)

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2009-02-27 16:11:58

#11

Finray: Hup! Dos, Tres, Cuatro; +2,629|5975|Catherine Black

GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NxNUK3U73SI

Three hundred and seventy FUCKING degrees?

And thanks, I've been looking for this video for aaaaaaages

2009-02-27 16:46:46

#12

']['error.V2: Om nom nom nom; +48|6001

GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:
OMG.

OMG.

OMG.

They DO overheat extremely fast without the paste!

Edit: Athlons don't even have heat spreaders so the cooling surface are is tiny.... now take a good look if you see physical damage on the core?

No I don't see any damage on the core, but i don't know where to look for either .

2009-02-27 16:50:21

#13

GC_PaNzerFIN: Work and study @ Technical Uni; +528|6601|Finland

well you might have survived with a little scare. Try some p aste on it and see if its good to boot.

overheated core usually looks slightly more copper than a core that has run at decent temps all its lifetime.

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2009-02-28 15:23:05

#14

']['error.V2: Om nom nom nom; +48|6001

Bought some paste: shit runs fine now .

Didn't knew that was so important on cpu's, I thought the cpu would only get like 10C warmer without thermal paste applied .

2009-02-28 17:28:23

#15

DUnlimited: got any popo lolo intersting?; +1,160|6650|cuntshitlake

']['error.V2 wrote:
Bought some paste: shit runs fine now .

Didn't knew that was so important on cpu's, I thought the cpu would only get like 10C warmer without thermal paste applied .

Athlons are a different case. My E2180 booted to windows @ 3GHz just fine with basically no CPU cooler (The F7P only had about 1/4 contact to it). Heatspreader really makes a difference, besides athlons are indeed really hot fuckers.

Last edited by DeathUnlimited (2009-02-28 17:32:12)

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2009-02-28 17:32:08

#16

Freezer7Pro: I don't come here a lot anymore.; +1,447|6384|Winland

DeathUnlimited wrote:
']['error.V2 wrote:
Bought some paste: shit runs fine now .

Didn't knew that was so important on cpu's, I thought the cpu would only get like 10C warmer without thermal paste applied .
Athlons are a different case.

To say the least.

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2009-02-28 18:43:39

#17

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']['error - what an appropriate name you have...

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