6 versions of Windows 7 to be released

2009-02-03 18:39:25

#1

bugz: Fission Mailed; +3,311|6574

https://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2009/01/win7_versions.jpg

* Windows 7 Starter (limited to three apps concurrently)
* Windows 7 Home Basic (for emerging markets)
* Windows 7 Home Premium (adds Aero, Touch, Media Center)
* Windows 7 Professional (Remote Desktop host, Mobility Center, Presentation mode)
* Windows 7 Enterprise (volume license only, boot from virtual drive, BitLocker)
* Windows 7 Ultimate (limited availability, includes everything)

This information has been confirmed by Microsoft... who never listens to us. At least most consumers will only see Home Premium and Professional options at retail, which is more akin to the XP options of yore, and means WMC will be "baseline" for most PCs.

Update: Just to be clear, we've checked specifically with Microsoft on all six versions, and the placement of Home Basic in emerging markets. There's now a full breakdown after the break.

Windows 7 Starter

* Available worldwide to OEMs on new PCs
* Missing Aero UI tweaks
* Limited to 3 simultaneous applications

Windows 7 Home Basic (Vista equivalent: $200)

* Only available in emerging markets
* Missing Aero UI tweaks

Windows 7 Home Premium (Vista equivalent: $260)

* Available worldwide, to OEMs and in retail
* Includes Aero UI tweaks
* Features multi-touch capabilities
* Adds "premium" games
* Adds media capabilities (Media Center, DVD playback, DVD creation, etc.)
* Can create home network groups

Windows 7 Professional (Vista equivalent: $300)

* Available worldwide, to OEMs and in retail
* Includes all features of Premium
* Adds enhanced networking capabilities (Remote Desktop host, domain support, offline folders, etc.)
* Adds Mobility Center
* Adds Presentation Mode

Windows 7 Enterprise

* Available only in volume licenses
* Includes all features of Professional
* Adds Branch Cache
* Adds Direct Access
* Adds BitLocker

Windows 7 Ultimate (Vista equivalent: $320)

* Limited OEM and retail availability
* Includes all features of Enterprise

Engadget

I know Vista has the same thing but wouldn't just Home and Ultimate make more sense?

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2009-02-03 18:42:27

#2

AussieReaper: ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°); +5,761|6415|what

Windows 7 Enterprise (volume license only, boot from virtual drive)

Fuck only Enterprise lets you boot from a virtual drive?

Ebug, they do this to make more money. New PC's come with the latest but basic Windows. And backwards compatibility is no where to be seen.

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2009-02-03 18:42:54

#3

max: Vela Incident; +1,652|6830|NYC / Hamburg

Limited availability, wtf?

Anyhow I don't really care. I'll just pirate ultimate and be done with it

Also I wish they'd drop 32bit mode

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2009-02-03 18:42:56

#4

Brasso: member; +1,549|6893

i saw that. starter made me laugh out loud.

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2009-02-03 18:45:16

#5

Gooners: Wiki Contributor; +2,700|6895

max wrote:
I'll just pirate ultimate and be done with it

Also I wish they'd drop 32bit mode

ThisThisThis

2009-02-03 18:45:58

#6

bugz: Fission Mailed; +3,311|6574

Gooners wrote:
max wrote:
I'll just pirate ultimate and be done with it

Also I wish they'd drop 32bit mode
ThisThisThis

You mean you'll finally drop WindowsXP?

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2009-02-03 18:46:53

#7

Gooners: Wiki Contributor; +2,700|6895

ebug9 wrote:
Gooners wrote:
max wrote:
I'll just pirate ultimate and be done with it

Also I wish they'd drop 32bit mode
ThisThisThis
You mean you'll finally drop WindowsXP?

L2DualBOOT

2009-02-03 18:53:19

#8

pirate7474: Oh noes!; +11|6262|USA

Hmm...actually there should be 3 in developed countries. It's pretty recent.

http://blogs.zdnet.com/Bott/?p=659

2009-02-03 19:32:44

#9

GR34: Member; +215|6807|ALBERTA> CANADA

yea if they are going to screw us by making features unavailable in some version I will simply acquire ultimate. IMO there should only be 3 versions, 32bit 64bit and a specialized version for servers.

And LOL @ sarter only allowing 3 programs at one I am running 5 right now. (WMP generation kill displaying on my HDTV , firefox, Messenger, u torrent and the zune sync thingey)

2009-02-03 23:13:40

#10

TopHat01: Limitless; +117|6167|CA

I guess it's a little bit better than Vista. The "upgrade" sounds stupid, like you're installing software onto your computer that you aren't allowed to use, and have to pay to "unlock" it.

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2009-02-03 23:18:24

#11

Scorpion0x17: can detect anyone's visible post count...; +691|7028|Cambridge (UK)

TopHat01 wrote:
I guess it's a little bit better than Vista. The "upgrade" sounds stupid, like you're installing software onto your computer that you aren't allowed to use, and have to pay to "unlock" it.

What 'upgrade'?

(linky?)

2009-02-04 01:51:38

#12

unnamednewbie13: Moderator; +2,053|7034|PNW

UGH! Why do they have to make everything so bloody complicated.

REVISION FTW:

Windows 7 Starter
Windows 7 Home Basic
Windows 7 Home Premium
Windows 7 Basic (32-bit; the emerging economy stuff)
Windows 7 Home (32-bit; same features as home premium, 3 pc license; renewable if by same owner)
Windows 7 Professional (32/64-bit; same features, 3 pc license; renewable if by same owner)
Windows 7 Enterprise (32/64-bit; same features)
Windows 7 Ultimate (64-bit only; same features, 6 pc license [you know only enthusiasts would have it); renewable if by same owner]

All manufacturers required to at least include the mint restore discs or OEM copies of the operating system as per licensing agreement.

OEM releases of Home, Professional would be licensed to 1 PC. Basic would be OEM only. I'd like to see Ultimate dropped and merged into Professional, but that ain't happening. And for the price of Ultimate, we should get something extra. Like a bloody t-shirt. Or a baseball cap. Maybe a signed autograph from Bill Gates and Paul Allen. As for the 64-bit only Ultimate, might as well start forcing the issue somewhere...

But yeah, stop ITERATING the bloody names. Why do IT guys have to keep explaining the different Homes? And Starter? That's lower than "emerging markets." Three simultaneous apps? I can beat that shit with Windows 3.1. Why does it even exist? WHAT WERE THEY THINKING?! What manufacturer would POSSIBLY want to release a computer boasting a three-app multitasking limit? Some poor jerk is going to apply an upgrade to it and fuck things up even worse. What a load of balls.

But as the OP says...they don't listen.

Last edited by unnamednewbie13 (2009-02-04 02:01:02)

2009-02-04 04:07:40

#13

Benzin: Member; +576|6261

Look at it this way: The only versions the modern world will care about are Home Premium, Professional and Ultimate. Enterprise is only for businesses, so that nixes most of us. If you want the business features, then get Ultimate.

But Home Premium is what almost everyone will use (hopefully it comes with 64 bit). The only people that will use Professional or Ultimate are folks that know their way around a machine pretty well (which will be most of us here).

Microsoft hasn't done anything wrong, guys. Why trash them? If anything, this is a way to SAVE money for the consumer who doesn't need all the fancy features or whatever. Like that computer you are building for your grandmother.

2009-02-04 04:10:27

#14

jsnipy: ...; +3,277|6785|...

I agree with max, kill the 32bit versions, move forward

2009-02-04 15:48:00

#15

GR34: Member; +215|6807|ALBERTA> CANADA

well the only way they could keep 32-bit is if they made it support more then 2.7XXX GB's of ram and did not calculate Vram into the equation. My little brothers computer has a Q9400(iam going to get the same) 4 gigs of ram and a 4850 1gb and XP will only recognize like 1.2GB's of ram Its Fing gay. So thats y I got him vista ultimate x64

2009-02-04 19:40:10

#16

Scorpion0x17: can detect anyone's visible post count...; +691|7028|Cambridge (UK)

GR34 wrote:
well the only way they could keep 32-bit is if they made it support more then 2.7XXX GB's of ram and did not calculate Vram into the equation. My little brothers computer has a Q9400(iam going to get the same) 4 gigs of ram and a 4850 1gb and XP will only recognize like 1.2GB's of ram Its Fing gay. So thats y I got him vista ultimate x64

The vast majority of PC users are not gamers.

2009-02-04 20:31:52

#17

unnamednewbie13: Moderator; +2,053|7034|PNW

Scorpion0x17 wrote:
GR34 wrote:
well the only way they could keep 32-bit is if they made it support more then 2.7XXX GB's of ram and did not calculate Vram into the equation. My little brothers computer has a Q9400(iam going to get the same) 4 gigs of ram and a 4850 1gb and XP will only recognize like 1.2GB's of ram Its Fing gay. So thats y I got him vista ultimate x64
The vast majority of PC users are not gamers.

The vast majority of 1.2GB RAM is taken up by Vista+.

Last edited by unnamednewbie13 (2009-02-04 20:32:07)

2009-02-04 20:34:36

#18

unnamednewbie13: Moderator; +2,053|7034|PNW

CapnNismo wrote:
Microsoft hasn't done anything wrong, guys.

Except force a paying public to beta test their OS's at retail prices (not everyone has time to dick around with Linux). Now they're releasing them in countless iterations that will bug an untold number of IT professionals with customer questions.

CAN I HAS EMAIL ON HOME BASIC OR DO I NEED HOME PREMIUM.

No, you need Windows Diesel.

Last edited by unnamednewbie13 (2009-02-04 20:36:28)

2009-02-05 00:34:30

#19

Benzin: Member; +576|6261

Yes, well you need to realize that Microsoft isn't out there as a public servant. They are in the business to make money and also benefit the consumer a bit. Like it or not, but the way Microsoft is doing this makes buying and building computers cheaper than if they slapped everything into one package. Because then it would take a new business model to recoup the R&D costs in an efficient way. Or they could just do like Apple and slap a huge mark up on everything - which would you prefer? Being able to HAVE A CHOICE and save money, or be forced to pay out the ass just to get the machine running with Windows? Sorry, but people in the support business know all this and knew exactly what they were getting into when they took the job. That's like a garbage man complaining about stinky trash. Tough shit, mate.

2009-02-05 01:52:49

#20

Typh00n: In Flames; +22|6807|42

Home premium, just as my vista. Good enough

2009-02-05 02:38:46

#21

Scorpion0x17: can detect anyone's visible post count...; +691|7028|Cambridge (UK)

unnamednewbie13 wrote:
CapnNismo wrote:
Microsoft hasn't done anything wrong, guys.
Except force a paying public to beta test their OS's at retail prices (not everyone has time to dick around with Linux). Now they're releasing them in countless iterations that will bug an untold number of IT professionals with customer questions.

CAN I HAS EMAIL ON HOME BASIC OR DO I NEED HOME PREMIUM.

No, you need Windows Diesel.

And don't forget to install the Winter 2012 Armageddon Service Release v23(b) after updating to Disservice Pack 4 via the Windows Upcrate website.

2009-02-05 06:29:53

#22

RDMC: Enemy Wheelbarrow Spotted..!!; +736|6827|Area 51

max wrote:
Anyhow I don't really care. I'll just pirate ultimate and be done with it

2009-02-05 07:17:31

#23

mikkel: Member; +383|6864

GR34 wrote:
yea if they are going to screw us by making features unavailable in some version I will simply acquire ultimate. IMO there should only be 3 versions, 32bit 64bit and a specialized version for servers.

And LOL @ sarter only allowing 3 programs at one I am running 5 right now. (WMP generation kill displaying on my HDTV , firefox, Messenger, u torrent and the zune sync thingey)

What the hell? How are they screwing you? You need more, you pay more. You need less, you pay less. That sounds like completely normal business practice in pretty much all industries. When you buy cars, do you also justify paying nothing for getting the highest end model with all the bells and whistles, if they have family, sports and outdoors optional packages?

The only one who's screwing anyone is you screwing them by pirating their product.

Last edited by mikkel (2009-02-05 07:18:58)

2009-02-05 12:49:43

#24

xGj: Official lame Crysis fanboy.; +84|6634|Netherlands tbh

unnamednewbie13 wrote:
UGH! Why do they have to make everything so bloody complicated.

REVISION FTW:

Windows 7 Starter
Windows 7 Home Basic
Windows 7 Home Premium
Windows 7 Basic (32-bit; the emerging economy stuff)
Windows 7 Home (32-bit; same features as home premium, 3 pc license; renewable if by same owner)
Windows 7 Professional (32/64-bit; same features, 3 pc license; renewable if by same owner)
Windows 7 Enterprise (32/64-bit; same features)
Windows 7 Ultimate (64-bit only; same features, 6 pc license [you know only enthusiasts would have it); renewable if by same owner]

All manufacturers required to at least include the mint restore discs or OEM copies of the operating system as per licensing agreement.

OEM releases of Home, Professional would be licensed to 1 PC. Basic would be OEM only. I'd like to see Ultimate dropped and merged into Professional, but that ain't happening. And for the price of Ultimate, we should get something extra. Like a bloody t-shirt. Or a baseball cap. Maybe a signed autograph from Bill Gates and Paul Allen. As for the 64-bit only Ultimate, might as well start forcing the issue somewhere...

But yeah, stop ITERATING the bloody names. Why do IT guys have to keep explaining the different Homes? And Starter? That's lower than "emerging markets." Three simultaneous apps? I can beat that shit with Windows 3.1. Why does it even exist? WHAT WERE THEY THINKING?! What manufacturer would POSSIBLY want to release a computer boasting a three-app multitasking limit? Some poor jerk is going to apply an upgrade to it and fuck things up even worse. What a load of balls.

But as the OP says...they don't listen.

Marketing, you know. It's a pretty clever tactic really. Sure it's confusing for the 'regular' non-IT person, but that's the whole point. If something is confusing, people are more easily overwhelmed by information and especially from someone who knows all the details (referring to your "Why do IT guys have to keep explaining the different Homes? And Starter?" comment).

Also, aside from marketing in my opinion this is not a bad move. The starter edition is meant for netbooks, hence the three application limit. Microsoft is somewhat right in the fact that people who use netbooks in general do not need more than three apps running simultaneously (8.9" - 10.1" screen, not a very fast CPU and much RAM, let alone a fast HDD/SSD, can criple performance with many apps).

I do not entirely agree on the feature seperation between the different versions but hey, again in my opinion it's not a bad move.

2009-02-05 13:17:59

#25

Jenspm: penis; +1,716|6995|St. Andrews / Oslo

GR34 wrote:
well the only way they could keep 32-bit is if they made it support more then 2.7XXX GB's of ram and did not calculate Vram into the equation. My little brothers computer has a Q9400(iam going to get the same) 4 gigs of ram and a 4850 1gb and XP will only recognize like 1.2GB's of ram Its Fing gay. So thats y I got him vista ultimate x64

if it supported more than 4GB of system ram, it wouldn't be 32 bit.

At least that's how I think it is. 2^32 = 4 294 967 296 which is approx 4 giga.

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max wrote:

Gooners wrote:

max wrote:

ebug9 wrote:

Gooners wrote:

max wrote:

TopHat01 wrote:

GR34 wrote:

Scorpion0x17 wrote:

GR34 wrote:

CapnNismo wrote:

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

CapnNismo wrote:

max wrote:

GR34 wrote:

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

GR34 wrote:

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