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ATG wrote:

m3thod wrote:

usmarine wrote:

ugh...what kind of crap was that?

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Turquoise wrote:

usmarine wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

I prefer Peter Schiff.

ah yes..the economic advisor for ron paul correct?

Yep, but I think he's actually a lot more electable than Paul.  He's not quite as radical.

By radical do you mean stupid?

AutralianChainsaw wrote:

DoctaStrangelove wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

Yep, but I think he's actually a lot more electable than Paul.  He's not quite as radical.

By radical do you mean stupid?

You think Ron Paul is stupid?

Spoiler (highlight to read):
Yes, of course.

AutralianChainsaw wrote:

DoctaStrangelove wrote:

AutralianChainsaw wrote:

You think Ron Paul is stupid?

Spoiler (highlight to read):
Yes, of course.

And may i ask who in your opinion is an intelligent politician?

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Someone who does not favor economic deregulation, at a time when increased regulation has been proven to cause the market to not trip balls so much.

DoctaStrangelove wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

usmarine wrote:

ah yes..the economic advisor for ron paul correct?

Yep, but I think he's actually a lot more electable than Paul.  He's not quite as radical.

By radical do you mean stupid?

I wouldn't say Paul is stupid.  I'd say he's too idealistic.  Some of his ideas are quite good though.

DoctaStrangelove wrote:

AutralianChainsaw wrote:

DoctaStrangelove wrote:

Spoiler (highlight to read):
Yes, of course.

And may i ask who in your opinion is an intelligent politician?

Spoiler (highlight to read):
Someone who does not favor economic deregulation, at a time when increased regulation has been proven to cause the market to not trip balls so much.

I guess we will see who was right in a year or two.

Hard to say for now.. your dollar is doing good, oil prices are down, etc.. but i keep thinking that creating that much money out of nothing to bail out failed banks will have a bad repercussion in the near future.

AutralianChainsaw wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

DoctaStrangelove wrote:

By radical do you mean stupid?

I wouldn't say Paul is stupid.  I'd say he's too idealistic.  Some of his ideas are quite good though.

Idealistic people created great things in this world..  Ron Paul is not afraid of bringing out new ideas .. he think outside of the box.. that's how you can bring REAL change...

Obama is a better example of someone that actually accomplishes change.  What I mean by that is he is essentially a realist disguised as an idealist.

Obama knew what to say that would inspire people, but he's taking the moderate approach that is needed to affect real change.  Of course, the amount of change that he will be able to put forth will be drastically less than what he's promised.

Still, this is how change actually occurs.  Reagan changed a lot of things in much of the same way.  He made a lot of promises, but in the end, he could only change so much.  Clinton did the same.

While I do admire Paul's sincerity and I agree with several of his ideas, he's too far in the idealistic direction to enact much change or to rise to a level of power high enough to make needed changes.

Schiff, by contrast, seems to take a sober enough approach to expressing his views that he could possibly get the moderate majority to follow him.  Paul often comes across as "too passionate", which is like a nice way of saying nutty.

I can certainly see why some people think Paul is crazy.

Bell wrote:

AutralianChainsaw wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

I wouldn't say Paul is stupid.  I'd say he's too idealistic.  Some of his ideas are quite good though.

Idealistic people created great things in this world..  Ron Paul is not afraid of bringing out new ideas .. he think outside of the box.. that's how you can bring REAL change...

I have to agree.  Some times I think 1776 was destroyed in 1913.  One of the main reasons for the war of independace was to get away from the debt based money system of the british central bank.  Only difference now is the fed has an american flag outside it rather than a union jack.

Btw Turquise are you on europacfic's mailing list?

Martyn

I'm not actually, but maybe I should join.  I'm just going by what I've researched on my own about Schiff.

Harmor wrote:

What book is he trying to sell?  Things are looking better...

1. Interest rates are at a 34 year low.
2. Gas is under $1.60/gallon
3. Many deals can be found at stores
4. Home prices are down where you can actually afford them
5. You can get a VERY good deal on a car right now
6. Stocks aren't over valued right now...the P/E ratios of them are where they were in 2004 and so actually worth buying some of these companies
7. If your business has reserves, its now best to start buying up your competition and expanding.  Any good business that's not month to month.
8. If you're a business this is where you out innovate your competitors and drive them out of business. 

Granted its not 2007, but these business cycles are cyclical every 7-11 years. 

What's funny is that people were doom and gloomers saying the same thing in 1987 after the stock market crash.

to bad no small businesses have ervenue..

AutralianChainsaw wrote:

DoctaStrangelove wrote:

AutralianChainsaw wrote:

Idealistic people created great things in this world..  Ron Paul is not afraid of bringing out new ideas .. he think outside of the box.. that's how you can bring REAL change...

His ideas aren't new though. They're old. Real old. His ideology was what was popular during the 1920's, and we all know what happened in the 1920's.

According to a lot of people, what is about to happen will be even worst than the great depression.. and Ron Paul is not even in charge..

Strangelove is right that a lack of regulation caused much of the Great Depression.  I disagree with Paul on his extreme opposition to regulation.

Our current situation is basically the result of bad regulations in combination with a lack of regulation where it's needed.

We need to regulate speculation more, we need to regulate Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac very stringently, and we need to repeal the Community Reinvestment Act.

So, in the end, the middle way is the best approach.  Schiff actually supports this concept for the most part, despite Paul's extreme deregulation approach.

usmarine wrote:

chainslaw you just like him because he doesnt like israel.  stop playing these poor fellows.

He never said he didnt like Israel, he just doesnt care about them and all the other countries in the middle east.  He also said that the US is preventing Israel from defending itself properly. Stop all foreign aid and Israel will not have to ask permission to the US when it has to defend itself against countries like Iran and Syria.

You should like Ron Paul only for that reason.. With him for president of the US, Israel could bomb all these muslim countries without ask for permission first.