You are asking me to prove something that you cant prove. Using words like clearly without citing your reasoning is just further proof that you have absolutely nothing but your own perception of racial sentiment to go on. In fact if anything we experienced a reverse Bradly effect. The amount of people who said race mattered does not make sense when looking at the results.Flaming_Maniac wrote:
I am answering both your questions implicitly. A quick summary:
- The election was clearly influenced by race, bot h by whites not voting for him and blacks voting for him because of his race. Whether or not he was actually elected is irrelevant, because the mere fact that it was influenced means racism is not dead. Unless you can prove he would have won unquestioningly had race been a null issue (which you can't) McCain might as well have won for purposes of declaring racism dead.
- Even if the election proves we have made great strides, making a thread about it has about as much class as a tabloid. You are still celebrating levels of melanin in the epidermis. Celebrate the man, not the race.
Now try to keep up k?
You are seriously straining to find the bright side. Hey it's k that we were one of the last Western nations to really get rid of segregation, because look at the strides we have made in such a short time! Conveniently omitting the fact that so many other nations have been where we are so happy to be for nearly hundreds of years. We should be embarrassed it took so long, not happy we managed to finally get our shit together quickly.
Took so long? As in in a couple hundred years? You are beyond ridiculous tonight. Do you know how quick that is when viewed in historical context? The fact that you are comparing us with a continent that mastered the art of ethnic cleansing in just this last century is fucking hilarious.
Sorry to hear about that.. maybe keep them out of debates next time.Flaming_Maniac wrote:
The grandmother was rhetoric by the way. Both my grandmothers are dead.
I'll take your last response as a yes.Are you choosing to ignore what I am saying or is it just coming naturally?
Your argument is asinine. You are implying that to acknowledge some level of "coolness" in addition to the fact that he won because of what he is offering is racist (just short of lynching him). Why didn't Jesse Jackson win in 84/88? I am fully aware of the fact that skin color is not a reason to vote. I have said this many times yet you can't manage to get over yourself long enough to accept that. What was prevalent before is not nearly as prevalent today. That is worth a simple post on a gaming forum (OMG the horror!). I'm glad Obama won. Well, as glad as I can be anyone won. I voted for him over McCain for many reasons.. none of which had anything to do with race. Now that all the votes have been cast and counted I can look back and say.. oh yea, and btw that was a black man.
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