ATG
Banned
+5,233|6725|Global Command
Imagine if John McCain had whispered somewhere that he was willing to bankrupt a major industry? Would this declaration not immediately be front page news? Well, Barack Obama actually flat out told the San Francisco Chronicle (SF Gate) that he was willing to see the coal industry go bankrupt in a January 17, 2008 interview. The result? Nothing.

B. Hussein O. wrote:

So if somebody wants to build a coal-powered plant, they can; it's just that it will bankrupt them because they're going to be charged a huge sum for all that greenhouse gas that's being emitted.
Story Contin




But sadly, when America looks back with regret at the election of B. Hussein O. it will come to pass that the blame lies squarely at the feet of the phony conservative George W. Bush.
If politicians making lying and misrepresentation a matter of policy they allow a radical extreme alternative to seem appealing.


They are tag teaming us into submission.
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6601|North Carolina
Obama has later stated that he supports clean coal technology.
Stingray24
Proud member of the vast right-wing conspiracy
+1,060|6641|The Land of Scott Walker
Surprise, surprise.  Obama supports both sides. He's going to screw up far more than the coal industry if he wins.
chittydog
less busy
+586|7031|Kubra, Damn it!

ATG wrote:

B. Hussein O.
We get the point already, he's an Arab muslim extremist and will kill us all. He's our next President, too.
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6601|North Carolina
Obama's made some serious gaffes, but none of them have come close to the ones Palin has made.  Granted, Biden has made quite a few, and so has McCain.
Flaming_Maniac
prince of insufficient light
+2,490|6902|67.222.138.85

Turquoise wrote:

Obama's made some serious gaffes, but none of them have come close to the ones Palin has made.  Granted, Biden has made quite a few, and so has McCain.
How is that even a gaffe? He just downright said he wants to bankrupt them. I don't know how he could have meant anything else.
[F7F7]KiNG_KaDaFFHi
Why walk when you can dance?
+77|6783|sWEEDen
I guess the point with this is to force companies to use a better/more green way of producing energy? What Is the evil part about that? New technology creates new jobs and soo on..... This is the 21st century, we DO have better technology then in the stoneages, burning coal, wood or oil for energy is really not a good solution.

Last edited by [F7F7]KiNG_KaDaFFHi (2008-11-02 12:27:32)

chittydog
less busy
+586|7031|Kubra, Damn it!

Everyone knows we should stick to burning imported oil instead.
Stingray24
Proud member of the vast right-wing conspiracy
+1,060|6641|The Land of Scott Walker

[F7F7]KiNG_KaDaFFHi wrote:

I guess the point with this is to force companies to use a better/more green way of producing energy? What Is the evil part about that? New technology creates new jobs and soo on..... This is the 21st century, we DO have better technology then in the stoneages, burning coal, wood or oil for energy is really not a good solution.
Coal companies have developed technology which makes its use much more clean.  Obama's position goes far beyond forcing them to change their production.  Nuclear would be much better than coal, but of course our favorite liberals have opposed that too.
chittydog
less busy
+586|7031|Kubra, Damn it!

Stingray24 wrote:

[F7F7]KiNG_KaDaFFHi wrote:

I guess the point with this is to force companies to use a better/more green way of producing energy? What Is the evil part about that? New technology creates new jobs and soo on..... This is the 21st century, we DO have better technology then in the stoneages, burning coal, wood or oil for energy is really not a good solution.
Coal companies have developed technology which makes its use much more clean.  Obama's position goes far beyond forcing them to change their production.  Nuclear would be much better than coal, but of course our favorite liberals have opposed that too.
More convserative muckraking. Why is this an issue? Clean coal isn't affected by this since it doesn't emit enough greenhouse gasses to be taxed prohibitively. Obama's position only forces older coal technologies out of business.

I personally like clean coal better than nuclear as there's no toxic waste left over. But if our favorite conservatives insist on using it, we can probably find a good place to dump it. Since Palin informed us that some areas of the US are less patriotic than others, we'll find some area that once seceded from the country (obviously VERY unpatriotic) and dump it there. How about the Carolinas?
MGS3_GrayFox
Member
+50|6363

ATG wrote:

B. Hussein O.
Holy shit! Is he a cousin of Saddam Hussein?  Fuck fuck fuck, don't vote for him.
SealXo
Member
+309|6731

MGS3_GrayFox wrote:

ATG wrote:

B. Hussein O.
Holy shit! Is he a cousin of Saddam Hussein?  Fuck fuck fuck, don't vote for him.
okai!
FEOS
Bellicose Yankee Air Pirate
+1,182|6607|'Murka

Turquoise wrote:

Obama's made some serious gaffes, but none of them have come close to the ones Palin has made.  Granted, Biden has made quite a few, and so has McCain.
Yeah...not being able to recite an undefined "Bush doctrine" in an interview is equivalent to saying you'll bankrupt a bedrock industry of this country in an interview. Exactly the same.
“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein

Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
Reciprocity
Member
+721|6776|the dank(super) side of Oregon
What he likely meant was if you build a conventional coal fired power plant you will go bankrupt paying for the carbon.   the statement was in the context of 100% cap and trade system.


BTW

the sky is falling.
CameronPoe
Member
+2,925|6751
Newsflash: traditional coal plants = thing of the past. Except in the likes of China.

Last edited by CameronPoe (2008-11-02 13:36:29)

Flaming_Maniac
prince of insufficient light
+2,490|6902|67.222.138.85

CameronPoe wrote:

Newsflash: traditional coal plants = thing of the past.
Please tell that to the thousands employed by them.
CameronPoe
Member
+2,925|6751

Flaming_Maniac wrote:

CameronPoe wrote:

Newsflash: traditional coal plants = thing of the past.
Please tell that to the thousands employed by them.
Newsflash: they need to move on. There's is a whole new industry out there in green technology (which includes clean coal technology) and nuclear. Lamenting the passing of the most pollutant type of power station on earth is ridiculous. Go to Beijing and breathe it in and tell me there's nothing wrong with it.
Reciprocity
Member
+721|6776|the dank(super) side of Oregon

Flaming_Maniac wrote:

CameronPoe wrote:

Newsflash: traditional coal plants = thing of the past.
Please tell that to the thousands employed by them.
"Hey, thousands of coal people, the plants you work in are out-dated and filthy."



Done and done.


any more rhetoric?
usmarine
Banned
+2,785|6957

CameronPoe wrote:

Flaming_Maniac wrote:

CameronPoe wrote:

Newsflash: traditional coal plants = thing of the past.
Please tell that to the thousands employed by them.
Newsflash: they need to move on. There's is a whole new industry out there in green technology (which includes clean coal technology) and nuclear. Lamenting the passing of the most pollutant type of power station on earth is ridiculous. Go to Beijing and breathe it in and tell me there's nothing wrong with it.
hey hey hey...

you trash talked mccain.  well, you get no nuclear obama.  deal with it.
CameronPoe
Member
+2,925|6751

usmarine wrote:

hey hey hey...

you trash talked mccain.  well, you get no nuclear obama.  deal with it.
Obama needs to realise that nuclear is where it's at. On another note however I might add that one colossal solar plant in the New Mexican desert could probably power the entire United States of America. Fact.

Last edited by CameronPoe (2008-11-02 13:42:47)

Reciprocity
Member
+721|6776|the dank(super) side of Oregon
anyone who's every played sim city knows coal plants are the worst.
usmarine
Banned
+2,785|6957

CameronPoe wrote:

usmarine wrote:

hey hey hey...

you trash talked mccain.  well, you get no nuclear obama.  deal with it.
Obama needs to realise that nuclear is where it's at.
dems dont like teh nukes
[F7F7]KiNG_KaDaFFHi
Why walk when you can dance?
+77|6783|sWEEDen
Thoose thousands could get new jobs maintaining/producing better energyalternatives....The thing is...why would the coalcompanies swap technology while they still make money with their old shit?

This is why laws and reforms should always favor the new and more enviromentfriendly alternatives. Eventually they will make the same ammount of ridicilous money since wind and water = almost free and has unlimited access, but then again...why bother since people don´t care and still pay them their money?

And I´m aware of the impact that the newer technologies has on the enviroment...but really, what is worse, a coal mine the size of manhattan or some white towers with fans on top in the wasteland?

US laws and guidelines considering the enviroment is soo far behind they almost outclass the gunlaws.....
usmarine
Banned
+2,785|6957

CameronPoe wrote:

http://uk.reuters.com/article/oilRpt/idUKN2034620420080620

??
aye...but he has to get it by all those little dems in the houses and such.

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