jord
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+2,382|6983|The North, beyond the wall.
Britain is preparing to join an emergency peace-keeping force being sent to the Democratic Republic of Congo to end a fresh outbreak of bloodshed in the war-torn African nation.

Britain is preparing to join an emergency peace-keeping force being sent to the Democratic Republic of Congo to end a fresh outbreak of bloodshed in the war-torn African nation.

A small United Nations force in north-eastern Congo has been watching helplessly as rival factions, backed by the neighbouring states of Uganda and Rwanda, engage in a bloody civil war. Yesterday a UN official said 280 bodies had been discovered in the town of Bunia, which would be the headquarters of any new peace-keeping venture.

Some of the bodies were mutilated and might have been cannibalised, he added, supporting statements by church leaders and local people that cannibalism took place during the fighting. Yesterday some of the tribal fighters patrolling the streets of Bunia had human organs hanging from their assault rifles.
I always said certain African states don't have the capability or mentality to rule themselves. They need to be ruled over, for their own good it seems. I hope to god we go there, not just for personal reasons but to show all the "You only join wars to benefit and steal oil" people that we don't.

Source:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world … 38867.html

Last edited by jord (2008-11-01 10:53:35)

Mekstizzle
WALKER
+3,611|6926|London, England
Africa doesn't need anyone to rule them. And these things, people have to understand, is simply part of African culture/life. They were doing this all those years before colonisation, than colonisation happened and fake borders/government etc.. were drawn up and it was incompatible with what Africa was. It's just that with today's news reporting everything, and the fact that they also now have guns etc.. it just seems worse. Really, it's nothing different from pre-colonisation Africa. Just a little more outside influence has changed it abit.
jsnipy
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Mek-Stizzle wrote:

Africa doesn't need anyone to rule them. And these things, people have to understand, is simply part of African culture/life. They were doing this all those years before colonisation, than colonisation happened and fake borders/government etc..
Perhaps if everyone knew this fact that you only seem to know things would be different. Hurry tell the press!
Scorpion0x17
can detect anyone's visible post count...
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Mekstizzle
WALKER
+3,611|6926|London, England

jsnipy wrote:

Mek-Stizzle wrote:

Africa doesn't need anyone to rule them. And these things, people have to understand, is simply part of African culture/life. They were doing this all those years before colonisation, than colonisation happened and fake borders/government etc..
Perhaps if everyone knew this fact that you only seem to know things would be different. Hurry tell the press!
Everyone knows it, but people are too afraid to admit it.
jord
Member
+2,382|6983|The North, beyond the wall.
The African borders are as "fake" as every other border drawn up by wars. I.e, all of them.
Mekstizzle
WALKER
+3,611|6926|London, England

jord wrote:

The African borders are as "fake" as every other border drawn up by wars. I.e, all of them.
That's the thing, the African borders weren't drawn up by wars (actual wars not proxy colonial wars). That's why you have all this shit going on today in that continent. It's all fake. What Africa needs to do is draw their own borders, make their own countries. They weren't allowed to develop like that, like most countries were because Europe divided the place up and then countries were formed out of that. They're still not allowed to sort their own problems out, everyone intervenes and all it does is prolong the situation.

Africa are a few hundred years back in time when it comes to things like that, they just need to sort themselves out. Literally.
jord
Member
+2,382|6983|The North, beyond the wall.

Mek-Stizzle wrote:

jord wrote:

The African borders are as "fake" as every other border drawn up by wars. I.e, all of them.
That's the thing, the African borders weren't drawn up by wars (actual wars not proxy colonial wars). That's why you have all this shit going on today in that continent. It's all fake. What Africa needs to do is draw their own borders, make their own countries. They weren't allowed to develop like that, like most countries were because Europe divided the place up and then countries were formed out of that. They're still not allowed to sort their own problems out, everyone intervenes and all it does is prolong the situation.

Africa are a few hundred years back in time when it comes to things like that, they just need to sort themselves out. Literally.
Or they can a constant burden on first world countries having to cancel their debt and give them financial aid and they return it by killing eachother (again) and banning all foreigners and news agencies.

To be honest I think each European country that owned a country should be allowed back one African colony, then they can sort it out and make it safe. At least it would be somewhere safe for other Africans to flee to.
KEN-JENNINGS
I am all that is MOD!
+2,984|6937|949

Mek-Stizzle wrote:

jord wrote:

The African borders are as "fake" as every other border drawn up by wars. I.e, all of them.
That's the thing, the African borders weren't drawn up by wars (actual wars not proxy colonial wars). That's why you have all this shit going on today in that continent. It's all fake. What Africa needs to do is draw their own borders, make their own countries. They weren't allowed to develop like that, like most countries were because Europe divided the place up and then countries were formed out of that. They're still not allowed to sort their own problems out, everyone intervenes and all it does is prolong the situation.

Africa are a few hundred years back in time when it comes to things like that, they just need to sort themselves out. Literally.
It's not that simple.  Billions of dollars in resources and raw materials flow out of African nations yearly.  We (the Western World) count on those raw materials and African resources to fuel our consumer demands.  Whether African people like it or not, they will be intimately connected to the rest of the world.  The major problem I see is that the resources are not procured for the benefit of the African people at large - the people rarely see the fruits of their country, or even of their own labor.  Instead corrupt despots broker deals with multinational corporations (most who have little interest in African people at large) to exploit the resources.  The despots get rich, maybe if they are feeling charitable donate a pittance to the infrastructure of their country, and the people suffer.  The multinational corporations fly in, exploit the resources, exploit the cheap labor (and lack of organized labor/human rights laws), and maybe if there is enough international pressure donate a pittance to a "conservation" area or to support human rights.  Then we (Westerners) read a story about fighting and killing between desperate factions seeking some control over these resources and dismiss it with a, "well yeah, it's a fucked up continent and always will be".

jord wrote:

Or they can a constant burden on first world countries having to cancel their debt and give them financial aid and they return it by killing eachother (again) and banning all foreigners and news agencies.

To be honest I think each European country that owned a country should be allowed back one African colony, then they can sort it out and make it safe. At least it would be somewhere safe for other Africans to flee to.
Constant burden?  They are in debt because we force structural adjustments that benefit us, not them.  Maybe you should read up on the subject you are talking about instead of sounding like a dumbass.

Last edited by KEN-JENNINGS (2008-11-01 11:34:08)

imortal
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+240|6970|Austin, TX

jord wrote:

The African borders are as "fake" as every other border drawn up by wars. I.e, all of them.
I assume you mean that borders drawn in by people other than those who actually live in and run the nations actually affected by those borders?
Granted, war drawn borders appear to be up for.... renegotiation (new war) every generation or so.
God Save the Queen
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+628|6648|tropical regions of london

jord wrote:

Yesterday some of the tribal fighters patrolling the streets of Bunia had human organs hanging from their assault rifles.
thats good psyop
FEOS
Bellicose Yankee Air Pirate
+1,182|6716|'Murka

Britain shouldn't meddle in other countries.
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jord
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FEOS wrote:

Britain shouldn't meddle in other countries.
I get it, har, har har. har har har.

Seriously though, I hope this goes down in precisely 7 months.
m3thod
All kiiiiiiiiinds of gainz
+2,197|6976|UK
you mean brit troops going somewhere where is a actual requirment for them?

Is this possible?! oh the shock, i need to lay down.
Blackbelts are just whitebelts who have never quit.
jord
Member
+2,382|6983|The North, beyond the wall.

m3thod wrote:

you mean brit troops going somewhere where is a actual requirment for them?

Is this possible?! oh the shock, i need to lay down.
Don't get it, I could give you 10 examples off the top of my head when we needed British troops and they were sent off.


Oh and thank the French, the Congo mission is their idea.
m3thod
All kiiiiiiiiinds of gainz
+2,197|6976|UK

FEOS wrote:

Britain shouldn't meddle in other countries.
if we did we prob do a better job than you-know-who.
Blackbelts are just whitebelts who have never quit.
God Save the Queen
Banned
+628|6648|tropical regions of london

jord wrote:

FEOS wrote:

Britain shouldn't meddle in other countries.
I get it, har, har har. har har har.

Seriously though, I hope this goes down in precisely 7 months.
people die from the stupidest shit in warzones.  Imagine being the guy whose feet are sticking out twitching underneath some fallen pile of debris that crashed to the ground because some dude forgot to put a lock on somewhere.

Last edited by God Save the Queen (2008-11-01 13:20:43)

Mekstizzle
WALKER
+3,611|6926|London, England
We don't need to go anywhere. Sort this place out first. I wouldn't mind having the military around here, people need to be sorted out here.
m3thod
All kiiiiiiiiinds of gainz
+2,197|6976|UK

jord wrote:

m3thod wrote:

you mean brit troops going somewhere where is a actual requirment for them?

Is this possible?! oh the shock, i need to lay down.
Don't get it, I could give you 10 examples off the top of my head when we needed British troops and they were sent off.


Oh and thank the French, the Congo mission is their idea.
UK in Iraq vs UK in congo scenario.
Blackbelts are just whitebelts who have never quit.
jord
Member
+2,382|6983|The North, beyond the wall.

God Save the Queen wrote:

jord wrote:

FEOS wrote:

Britain shouldn't meddle in other countries.
I get it, har, har har. har har har.

Seriously though, I hope this goes down in precisely 7 months.
people die from the stupidest shit in warzones.  Imagine being the guy whose feet are sticking out twitching underneath some fallen pile of debris that crashed to the ground because some dude forgot to put a lock on somewhere.
If I was that worried about dying I wouldn't be dumb enough to join the Army...
NAthANSmitt
Stud
+4|6434
Theyll do better than the UN peacekeepers
thraSK
Best ___ in Aus
+57|6287
I'd just leave them to sort it out themselves, if they wipe themselves out then so be it
imortal
Member
+240|6970|Austin, TX

NAthANSmitt wrote:

Theyll do better than the UN peacekeepers
Boy Scouts would do better than UN peacekeepers.

Seriously.  Have the UN Peacekeepers ever helped?  Anywhere?
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6710|North Carolina
While having Europe or America run a place like the Congo might work out better in the long run for the people there, I would have to argue that it's currently a lot more profitable to let our multinational corporations rape them of resources while the people kill each other.
The_Guardsman
Tally Ho!!
+81|7050|I'm not sure.... Buts its dark
British Troops may go to the Congo?... Oh good as if we are'nt spread to thin as it is!


Best go and sit by the letter box waiting for my call up papers then.

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