BF2S Forums Exploit? Or just unbeatable strategy..

i got my expert explosive thx to claymores and messed up patch...42 claymore kills first time i've tried, also thx to the patch there is much more support guys "sniping" with PKM so they throw a lot more bags as well...means more claymores for me... woohoo thx dice/EA

I find it funny that people will run over and over and over again into an area that is obviously being claymore maintained by a sniper. On warlord at insurgent hideout, I would drop a claymore in plain sight in the alley between security office and hideout, run back to the supply crate to restock and each time before I had my ammo refilled the same guy ran into my claymore. This scenario has played itself out for me 5-6 times on multiple different maps. If you are too stupid to look even after the 4th or 5th time, you are certianly too stupid to be alive.

As for the TV station, I just don't go there. It isn't worth the death count you will build up for little or no gain. Personally I have defended that point for over 40 kills on a map with support resupplying without ever leaving the building and rarely even seeing the enemy. The lemmings just keep coming.

That said, claymores need to be limited to 2 per sniper, even though it wont stop most of the stupid people from running into them like lemmings, because they can't even be bothered to look.

gl picking up a live claymore

harleyds wrote:

DTAC wrote:

Claymores were practically unusable before 1.2. It's called defence. If someone wants to run up to a flag without looking to see a clearly visible claymore it's their fault. The fella probably laid down 2 claymores, suicided (hence the suicide count) and respawned and laid two more down. It's the same as if a Special Ops laid down C4 and waited until someone comes to take the flag.

You do realize that after the someone dies, about 10 seconds later the C4, AT Mine or claymore disappears right?

The way he did it was with a Support guy nearby or someone threw ammo packs all over the floor.  I know cause I have also done it to defend a flag post.


And yes, from what I read, after 1.21, snipers can only lay a total of 2 claymores.  Even if they get a support bag, they can't lay anymore.  I don't know about C4 or Mines.

This is actually incorrect; claymores hang around after someone dies for around 66 seconds.

I like the claymores now but really you shoild be able to destroy them with grenades end of story

Not going to read all fo this, only some of it.
First, as it has been sorted out, Engineers can pick up enemy claymores I have done it many a time. Just backing that point up.

In the new patch they are going to address the claymore issue, but in my opinion a bit too much. Now a Sniper can only have two claymores out at a time, even if they are resupplied. In my opinion it's EA and DICE swinging far too much to the other side again, like the AA being useless, to the AA being unstoppable, (according to some pilots who found out that they wern't quite as good as they thought they were.) but what are ya gonna do?

Far wrote:

DTAC wrote:

Claymores were practically unusable before 1.2. It's called defence. If someone wants to run up to a flag without looking to see a clearly visible claymore it's their fault.

ok... then prior to 1.2 the teammate walking into a BIG RED SKULL wasn't their fault?
Its fucking retarded the way it is now.
I'm not exactly for 100% realism but a claymore that can tell the difference between a friendly and an enemy is so far beyond unrealistic that it is laughable.

A claymore will NOT explode if someone walks past it. Someone have to pull the trigger. Claymores with trippingwires etc is NOT allowed in real war. Stop talking about realism, it's a game. Nothing in this game is realistic. Did you ever fire a dud from your smallarms? Does it rain?

DTAC wrote:

Claymores were practically unusable before 1.2. It's called defence. If someone wants to run up to a flag without looking to see a clearly visible claymore it's their fault. The fella probably laid down 2 claymores, suicided (hence the suicide count) and respawned and laid two more down. It's the same as if a Special Ops laid down C4 and waited until someone comes to take the flag.

I dont think you are right. After you die your claymores vannish after a certain time.

The whole point of giving snipers claymores was for them to have a way to defend themselves from someone spotting them from behind and knifing them.  They were not intended to be used to set up a perimeter thats impossible to get through.  Even only allowing them to only have 2 active at a time is not going to help as long as they have a support guy nearby tossing out ammo bags.  The main problem is that they do not hurt teammates.  They should just go back to the way they worked before with one exception.  They should be given a different label than the red skull and crossbones.  Something unique that lets a teammate know there is a CLAYMORE around the next corner, not C4.  It has been suggested over and over and I don't see why EA hasn't done this.

[RSN]FSK.nor wrote:

Far wrote:

DTAC wrote:

Claymores were practically unusable before 1.2. It's called defence. If someone wants to run up to a flag without looking to see a clearly visible claymore it's their fault.

ok... then prior to 1.2 the teammate walking into a BIG RED SKULL wasn't their fault?
Its fucking retarded the way it is now.
I'm not exactly for 100% realism but a claymore that can tell the difference between a friendly and an enemy is so far beyond unrealistic that it is laughable.

A claymore will NOT explode if someone walks past it. Someone have to pull the trigger. Claymores with trippingwires etc is NOT allowed in real war. Stop talking about realism, it's a game. Nothing in this game is realistic. Did you ever fire a dud from your smallarms? Does it rain?

No shit Columbo!
I even said that I'm NOT FOR 100% realism.
But IF the game HAS a fucking claymore that DOES explode when someone walks past it, then going the extra step of having it be able to tell the difference between friend or foe is still fucking retarded no matter how you want to spin it.
You want claymore FF off? Fine... then it should still explode when anyone walks by it. BF1942 did the job fine with mines where if a friendly drove over a friendly mine it exploded but didn't do any damage to the friendly tank/Jeep.
Why do I feel it should still explode? Not because it's realistic... because it encourages the player to use some kind of strategy rather than mindlessly spamming the smart bombs wherever the fuck they want with no negative reprecussions whatsoever. Because its a game. The claymore-game is too easy. Don't even try to tell me that there is a strategy to the claymores the way they are now because there just isn't. It's just 'drop it & forget it' because its a guaranteed kill if you leave it in a high-traffic area.
A fucking grenade won't even blow the damned thing up?? Give me a break.