Sarah Palin guilty of abusing her power

2008-10-10 18:00:42

#1

Havok: Nymphomaniac Treatment Specialist; +302|6980|Florida, United States

Short version:
Alaska Governor Sarah Palin is guilty of abuse of power, according to a probe by the state legislature.

Long version:

BBC wrote:
Mrs Palin was accused of sacking a senior state official, Walter Monegan, in connection with a family feud.

She allegedly fired him for refusing to sack a state trooper who was in a bitter custody battle with her sister.

The verdict of the state legislature could have a significant effect on Republicans hopes of winning the US presidential election next month.

Mrs Palin, who is John McCain's running mate, denies any improper behaviour.

"I find that Governor Sarah Palin abused her power by violating Alaska Statute 39.52.110 (a) of the Alaska Executive Branch Ethics Act," investigator Steve Branchflower concluded in the 263-page report.

But Alaskan state Senator Gary Stevens, a Republican, said there were "some problems" with the finding.

"I would encourage people to be very cautious, to look at this with a jaundiced eye," said Senator Stevens, after it was announced the report would be released.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7662820.stm
What effect will this have on the election? Does this seal the nail in the Republican coffin?

2008-10-10 18:10:56

#2

The#1Spot: Member; +105|6845|byah

I would say yes and this is proof why women shouldnt be eligible for president.

2008-10-10 18:11:25

#3

Stingray24: Proud member of the vast right-wing conspiracy; +1,060|6750|The Land of Scott Walker

Sexism ftl

2008-10-10 18:15:00

#4

Poseidon: Fudgepack DeQueef; +3,253|6843|Long Island, New York

The#1Spot wrote:
I would say yes and this is proof why women shouldnt be eligible for president.

I dunno, I'd take Adriana Lima as my president over Obama or McCain any day of the week.

2008-10-10 18:15:30

#5

tuckergustav: ...; +1,590|6219|...

The#1Spot wrote:
I would say yes and this is proof why women shouldnt be eligible for president.

booo!! She is not representative of the entire gender...

...

2008-10-10 18:16:14

#6

chittydog: less busy; +586|7140|Kubra, Damn it!

Stingray24 wrote:
Sexism ftl

QFE. Her gender is irrelevant.

Nothing's going to change because of this. It already looks like McCain's losing. Palin fans won't believe it, and nothing will happen to her because of it. At worst, she'll lose the next gubernatorial election, get re-elected as Mayor and come back as Governor again in a few years.

2008-10-10 18:19:20

#7

tuckergustav: ...; +1,590|6219|...

chittydog wrote:
Palin fans won't believe it, and nothing will happen to her because of it.

True...they already pre-empted the decision by complaining that the people doing the probe were all "liberal democrats" looking to make her and McCain look bad...

...

2008-10-10 18:19:54

#8

AussieReaper: ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°); +5,761|6458|what

What punishment does she receive, if any?

2008-10-10 18:25:24

#9

OrangeHound: Busy doing highfalutin adminy stuff ...; +1,335|6954|Washington DC

Havok wrote:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7662820.stm
What effect will this have on the election? Does this seal the nail in the Republican coffin?

The Republican coffin has been sealed for some time ... no effect on the election. Besides, (if I understand this correctly) this is merely a one-sided political finding, and the "defense" refused to participate.

2008-10-10 18:30:34

#10

Reciprocity: Member; +721|6886|the dank(super) side of Oregon

OrangeHound wrote:
and the "defense" refused to participate.

I'll try that the next time I need to beat a murder charge.

2008-10-10 18:32:09

#11

AussieReaper: ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°); +5,761|6458|what

Reciprocity wrote:
OrangeHound wrote:
and the "defense" refused to participate.
I'll try that the next time I need to beat a murder charge.

In retrospect it didn't help their cause.

2008-10-10 18:47:13

#12

OrangeHound: Busy doing highfalutin adminy stuff ...; +1,335|6954|Washington DC

Reciprocity wrote:
OrangeHound wrote:
and the "defense" refused to participate.
I'll try that the next time I need to beat a murder charge.

Except that this "guilty" verdict is meaningless, except that the state might be now liable for a lawsuit. The legislature is not a "court", yet legislatures try to be courts all the time in the United States. It is just a political technique that they do far too often ... probably akin to a "vote of no confidence" that is sometimes done in other places around the world.

2008-10-10 19:06:21

#13

Mason4Assassin444: retired; +552|6967|USA

tuckergustav wrote:
chittydog wrote:
Palin fans won't believe it, and nothing will happen to her because of it.
True...they already pre-empted the decision by complaining that the people doing the probe were all "liberal democrats" looking to make her and McCain look bad...

Yep. Even though the probe was led by 10 Republicans and 4 Democrats.

2008-10-10 19:17:41

#14

nukchebi0: Пушкин, наше всё; +387|6629|New Haven, CT

Wow, is Alaska full of idiots? No wonder she got elected in the first place.

Her lawyer wrote:
"In order to violate the ethics law, there has to be some personal gain," said Thomas Van Flein.

"Mr Branchflower has failed to identify any financial gain."

So...since when has personal gain been restricted to financial gain? That's correct, never.

2008-10-10 19:20:22

#15

Mason4Assassin444: retired; +552|6967|USA

nukchebi0 wrote:
Wow, is Alaska full of idiots? No wonder she got elected in the first place.

Her lawyer wrote:
"In order to violate the ethics law, there has to be some personal gain," said Thomas Van Flein.

"Mr Branchflower has failed to identify any financial gain."
So...since when has personal gain been restricted to financial gain? That's correct, never.

Not financial gain no. Satisfaction of revenge on her soon to be ex brother in law and gets to give a big hi five to her sister could be considered.

2008-10-10 19:21:31

#16

nukchebi0: Пушкин, наше всё; +387|6629|New Haven, CT

I know what the real personal gain was. I was merely pointing out how stupid her lawyer was to either think or argue that personal gain is restricted to increasing wealth.

2008-10-10 19:25:00

#17

Mason4Assassin444: retired; +552|6967|USA

nukchebi0 wrote:
I know what the real personal gain was. I was merely pointing out how stupid her lawyer was to either think or argue that personal gain is restricted to increasing wealth.

Yeah its the only move they got. And the line that states she fired him through proper proceedings. The reason doesn't matter.

2008-10-10 21:17:27

#18

SealXo: Member; +309|6841

a 263 page report of secotor45drandombullshit18742

2008-10-10 21:43:21

#19

nukchebi0: Пушкин, наше всё; +387|6629|New Haven, CT

SealXo wrote:
a 263 page report of secotor45drandombullshit18742

Yet all the specious associations with Ayers are valid? Nice selective criticism there.

2008-10-11 02:32:00

#20

Pierre: I hunt criminals down for a living; +68|6980|Belgium

SealXo wrote:
a 263 page report of secotor45drandombullshit18742

/facepalm

Nice argument. Have you actually read it?

2008-10-11 02:41:12

#21

DonFck: Hibernator; +3,227|6937|Finland

BBC wrote:
..in the 263-page report.

Jeez. A summary of that could clarify things.

The#1Spot wrote:
..this is proof why women shouldnt be eligible for president.

Vigdis Finnbogadottir?
Tarja Halonen?

..to name a few.

Both did/have done an outstanding job. Gender/Ethnicity/Age are all irrelevant. I wouldn't like to see the McCain/Palin-combo in the White House because of.. ..it would make GWB actually look like a good prez in comparison. IMHO.

I need around tree fiddy.

2008-10-11 02:45:39

#22

IG-Calibre: comhalta; +226|7047|Tír Eoghan, Tuaisceart Éireann

Jaysus all she did was lose a man his job vindictively & outta spite - at least she didn't move the us military half way round the world on the "threat" of fantasy WMD's and false claims in connection to 9/11, at the cost of over four thousand American lives & hundreds of thousand Iraqi lives & possibly the USA's economy "because he tried to kill ma daddy" sheeeeesh!!!

2008-10-11 03:27:08

#23

Pierre: I hunt criminals down for a living; +68|6980|Belgium

IG-Calibre wrote:
Jaysus all she did was lose a man his job vindictively & outta spite - at least she didn't move the us military half way round the world on the "threat" of fantasy WMD's and false claims in connection to 9/11, at the cost of over four thousand American lives & hundreds of thousand Iraqi lives & possibly the USA's economy "because he tried to kill ma daddy" sheeeeesh!!!

Atleast it proves she has the much needed 'experience' to f*ck people around...

2008-10-11 03:32:52

#24

Pierre: I hunt criminals down for a living; +68|6980|Belgium

DonFck wrote:
BBC wrote:
..in the 263-page report.
Jeez. A summary of that could clarify things.

The Alaska State Legislature
click on '*** Legislative Council Investigation Report ***'
look at page 8 'findings'.
Says clearly that while it was in her power to sack people, she did it for personnal reasons. So she abused her powers.

2008-10-11 03:45:25

#25

JahManRed: wank; +646|6933|IRELAND

The Republicans are fucked. Final nail in the coffin. Only a terrorist attack can save them now.

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