lol
There's something intangibly special about usmarine's post there...
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
~ Richard Feynman
It was his last one?Spark wrote:
There's something intangibly special about usmarine's post there...
Video game forum is serious business.usmarine wrote:
you know obama was told to keep his answers in debate short and to the point. i wish we could do the same here.
That, and the fact it got him 2000 karma, and it was just 'lol'Mek-Stizzle wrote:
It was his last one?Spark wrote:
There's something intangibly special about usmarine's post there...
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
~ Richard Feynman
I have little to say about Sarah Palin, except. I would.
Watched a fair bit of her debate and she didn't come across as political savvy. I think she is there to appeal to the female and pervy MALE swing voters. The day Hilary lost the nomination, the Republicans looked at Palin as VP.
Watched a fair bit of her debate and she didn't come across as political savvy. I think she is there to appeal to the female and pervy MALE swing voters. The day Hilary lost the nomination, the Republicans looked at Palin as VP.
lol at McCain when he's sitting there listening to her, you can see the proverbial facepalm in his face whilst she's talking.
If she was ugly, she'd right now be er....... most likely, absolutely nowhere in life.
If she was ugly, she'd right now be er....... most likely, absolutely nowhere in life.
Whaa? In the last two hours, usm, GS and Dilbert have all got the hammer.Spark wrote:
That, and the fact it got him 2000 karma, and it was just 'lol'Mek-Stizzle wrote:
It was his last one?Spark wrote:
There's something intangibly special about usmarine's post there...
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
~ Richard Feynman
I dunno if it's perm or not. Might be for mandarin and gs seeing as they've already had a few
I was just wondering the same...Spark wrote:
Whaa? In the last two hours, usm, GS and Dilbert have all got the hammer.Spark wrote:
That, and the fact it got him 2000 karma, and it was just 'lol'Mek-Stizzle wrote:
It was his last one?
I stood in line for four hours. They better give me a Wal-Mart gift card, or something. - Rodney Booker, Job Fair attendee.
GS wasnt even here when Dilbert and Marine went at each other.
Dilbert was not exactly flaming marine so his ban is extremely harsh.
Marine was going nuts as usual but he has 'immunity' so can say what he want....although his subscription may have run out.
Dilbert was not exactly flaming marine so his ban is extremely harsh.
Marine was going nuts as usual but he has 'immunity' so can say what he want....although his subscription may have run out.
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Blackbelts are just whitebelts who have never quit.
Confused, directions please?
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
~ Richard Feynman
the relevant posts have been deleted by a mod.Spark wrote:
Confused, directions please?
Blackbelts are just whitebelts who have never quit.
d'oh! On topic, I love Palin and am sickened by all of the hatersm3thod wrote:
the relevant posts have been deleted by a mod.Spark wrote:
Confused, directions please?
I stood in line for four hours. They better give me a Wal-Mart gift card, or something. - Rodney Booker, Job Fair attendee.
Ya know, that's something to think about. Would she be as well received if she was less attractive?Mek-Stizzle wrote:
lol at McCain when he's sitting there listening to her, you can see the proverbial facepalm in his face whilst she's talking.
If she was ugly, she'd right now be er....... most likely, absolutely nowhere in life.
that woman would be out of her depth in a puddle..
Like hillary?TrueMusou wrote:
Ya know, that's something to think about. Would she be as well received if she was less attractive?Mek-Stizzle wrote:
lol at McCain when he's sitting there listening to her, you can see the proverbial facepalm in his face whilst she's talking.
If she was ugly, she'd right now be er....... most likely, absolutely nowhere in life.
I stood in line for four hours. They better give me a Wal-Mart gift card, or something. - Rodney Booker, Job Fair attendee.
The difference between Plain and Hillary is the latter has something between her ears.DBBrinson1 wrote:
Like hillary?TrueMusou wrote:
Ya know, that's something to think about. Would she be as well received if she was less attractive?Mek-Stizzle wrote:
lol at McCain when he's sitting there listening to her, you can see the proverbial facepalm in his face whilst she's talking.
If she was ugly, she'd right now be er....... most likely, absolutely nowhere in life.
I would prefer Hillary as pres than palin anyday of the week *shudder*
Blackbelts are just whitebelts who have never quit.
Obama (supposedly) didn't know what his preacher was saying for twenty years. Sounds pretty dumb to me.
tbh
tbh
Xbone Stormsurgezz
So you made up your mind who you're voting for Kez?
why were marine and gs banned?
The problem is that neither one gives me an ounce of confidence. I'm leaning Obama, hoping that he stands by his tax policy and that he curtails his wasteful spending (McCain has helped to promote waste as well). He's also tougher than I originally thought on foreign policy. He cleared up all that "unconditional" stuff.Mek-Stizzle wrote:
So you made up your mind who you're voting for Kez?
Could change, or I might just say f' it. I have no candidate tbh. My choices were Huck or Romney. The media succesfully scared the voters into thinking they were of the religious extreme persuasion. The GOP's answer... Palin. .
Why I leaned Huckabee
Mike Huckabee wrote:
Frankly, I’m disappointed and disgusted with my own Republican party as I watch them attempt to strong-arm a bailout of some of America’s biggest corporations by asking the taxpayers to suck up the staggering results of the hubris, greed, and arrogance of those who sought to make a quick buck by throwing the dice. They lost, but want the rest of us to cover their bets so they won’t be effected in their lavish lifestyles as they figure out how to spend their tens of millions and in some cases, hundreds of millions in bonuses and compensation which was their reward for not only sinking their companies, but basically doing the same to the entire American economy.
It’s especially disconcerting to see the very people who pilloried me during the Presidential campaign for being a “populist” and not “understanding Wall Street” to now line up like thirsty dogs at the Washington, D. C. water dish, otherwise known as Congress, and plead for help. I thought these guys were the smartest people in America! I thought that taxpayers like you and I were similar to the people at the U. N. who have no translator speaking into their headset - that we just needed to trust those that I called the power bunch in the “Wall Street to Washington axis of power.”
The idea of a government bailout in which we’d entrust $700 billion to one man without Congressional oversight or accountability is absurd. My party or not, that is insanity and I believe unconstitutional.
Xbone Stormsurgezz
I too has wanted Romney.Kmarion wrote:
The problem is that neither one gives me an ounce of confidence. I'm leaning Obama, hoping that he stands by his tax policy and that he curtails his wasteful spending (McCain has helped to promote waste as well). He's also tougher than I originally thought on foreign policy. He cleared up all that "unconditional" stuff.Mek-Stizzle wrote:
So you made up your mind who you're voting for Kez?
Could change, or I might just say f' it. I have no candidate tbh. My choices were Huck or Romney. The media succesfully scared the voters into thinking they were of the religious extreme persuasion. The GOP's answer... Palin. .
Why I leaned HuckabeeMike Huckabee wrote:
Frankly, I’m disappointed and disgusted with my own Republican party as I watch them attempt to strong-arm a bailout of some of America’s biggest corporations by asking the taxpayers to suck up the staggering results of the hubris, greed, and arrogance of those who sought to make a quick buck by throwing the dice. They lost, but want the rest of us to cover their bets so they won’t be effected in their lavish lifestyles as they figure out how to spend their tens of millions and in some cases, hundreds of millions in bonuses and compensation which was their reward for not only sinking their companies, but basically doing the same to the entire American economy.
It’s especially disconcerting to see the very people who pilloried me during the Presidential campaign for being a “populist” and not “understanding Wall Street” to now line up like thirsty dogs at the Washington, D. C. water dish, otherwise known as Congress, and plead for help. I thought these guys were the smartest people in America! I thought that taxpayers like you and I were similar to the people at the U. N. who have no translator speaking into their headset - that we just needed to trust those that I called the power bunch in the “Wall Street to Washington axis of power.”
The idea of a government bailout in which we’d entrust $700 billion to one man without Congressional oversight or accountability is absurd. My party or not, that is insanity and I believe unconstitutional.
It was bizzare how him being a Mormon was a big deal. It's like, racial bigotry bad, religious bigotry the order of the day.
To me, the last eight years have been the republican version of liberal tax and spend socialist policies.
I would gladly support a conservative president.
McCain has always been a rino. He was leading the charge for amnesty ( not that something doesn't need to be done ) and has never been a favorite scion of the republican party. Maverick means he's a half a democrat with republican warhawk traits. No thanks.
And the fact is, the GW terms has been a wealth killing machine. I mean...just look at everything.
After 9-11 he had a mandate. They could have fixed fanny and freddie but turned their eyes outwards on a misguided revenge and domination path with no regard to the finacial cost. During his term the housing bubble filled up and then blew. Oil companies enjoyed fantastic profits, massive private war companies were enriched, bankers defrauded people and walked with hundreds of millions while saddling us with trillions in loans to cover it.
The cost of basic foodstuffs went up on average 1/3 third and our biofuel endevors are causing starvation.
When the cost of milk goes up a dollar over a year, and cheese slowly doubles it's not like a bomb goes of in your family budget, it's a slow war of attrition. Gas prices were the shock and awe that dealt the death blow to Joe Six Packs disposable income. Are there less cows making sheese? Less fields growing wheat and corn?
Who are these assholes that have jacked up the prices of all commodities and sucked the life out of everybody?
It seems to me the main problem with our economy is that the average person right now is out there fixing that car, boxing that shipment and on their breaks they hear that the economy is " collapsing " and that " the world stands on the brink of an abyss " and they go, mmm I guess the economy is jacked and I better hunker down. Or they have a yellow streak and they make a run on the banks.
And look out, BAM!!! the economy if in a once in a hundreds years jigger.
The wealth is transfered. Power is consolidated and the little people start over again with landlords and empty bellies.
I implied no such thing. You're the one who implied that the states that are currently characterized as "toss up" states would go for Obama. I was just calling you on it. If media outlets aren't saying that the toss up states are going for Obama (and I haven't seen any that are saying that), then it must be your own interpretation. If the media outlets are calling all of the states they have already characterized as "toss up" (ie, "too close to call") as going for Obama at this point, then they are either lying about their "toss up" analysis, or being biased in their assessment of which direction the "too close to call" states will go. It's basic intellectual dishonesty.GTT wrote:
You implied that there would still be a lot of wiggle room for a 50/50 split, it could go either way...if the media is calling it different, then they're lying to you or biased. My assumption was that you were basing this on the previous 2 elections, where undecided + right-wing nut jobs came right at 50% of the voter demographic. The very demographics have changed this election cycle, and pollsters haven't really caught up to this yet fully.
I never said or implied that if the media were calling it as anything other than a 50/50 split that they were lying or biased. I have no idea where you got that inference.
BL: Your assumption was wrong.
Again, my point was with regard to the 100 electoral votes in the toss up states. By definition, the polling in those states is within the margin of error. Just as with the states that are "leaning" toward one candidate over another, the polling is very near the margin of error, but slightly in favor of one of the candidates.GTT wrote:
Again, the post above. If the site showing the composite polling data puts anyone polling above the margin of error (3 points generally) for a given composite of polls, Vegas rules come into play. A few may go the other way, but the house will win in the long run with a 51% margin. Any media site saying that the numbers stand this way in this case is giving the scientific facts for this date/time based on the data they have. This is not bias. It is also understood that this could change before the election.
Trust me...I understand how statistical sampling and analysis works.
A nation-wide differential in registered voters is nearly meaningless in the electoral college calculus. If those 11 million more are in predominantly democrat-leaning areas, it won't make a difference in the electoral college count.GTT wrote:
Gallup Article...I mean blogger dude wrote:
The Democratic Party has an advantage of 11 million more registered voters than the Republican Party and the margin keeps growing. But that difference is not reflected in the polls. The reason, according to Seth Coulter Walls in the Huffington Post, is that "Party ID" -- who's Democrat, Republican, etc -- is estimated as either 50 / 50 or in some cases with Republicans ahead. That's not what reality tells us, but the poll results reflect a closer race that the true totals of registered Democrats and Republicans show. And that shows a possible landslide victory for Senator's Barack Obama and Joe Biden if the Obama camp's get out the vote strategy works as well as it seems that it will come election day.
As to the "source": A blogger who slams Gallup and cites Dailykos bloggers as sources...but not actual articles in actual news outlets. And is decidedly pro-Obama. Sorry if I can't take that seriously.
Here's an example that one could take more seriously, even though it's from FoxNews. It actually cites other, left-leaning or centrist/politically-agnostic sources.
Where do you get the coverage of his events? Where do you get the broadcasts of Palin's media appearances? That's right...left-leaning media outlets. You're a Chomsky fan, apparently...you figure it out.GTT wrote:
Basic items that were conveyed, regardless of how "biased" they were dressed up:
- Barack Obama draws bigger crowds when he speaks at public events. This makes a bigger story. This is not about ideology, this is the media covering a bigger story.
- In Sarah Palin's media appearances so far, nobody with any kind of literary expertise could possibly parse half of what she said if you were to dissect her answers during interviews.
- FoxNews is admittedly an outlet for conservative viewers. It says so itself. There is no denying this. They discovered a market niche, the "low information viewer" that wanted more entertainment and feel-good patriotism in their news and they made it.
- Facts have a well-known liberal bias, tough shit.
You're characterization of FoxNews (beyond it being an outlet for conservative viewers) is a perfect example of your bias. Terms like "low information viewer" and "more entertainment and feel-good patriotism in their news"...once again, someone confusing the opinion-based shows and the actual news coverage of Fox. That's the equivalent of saying CNN caters to old asthmatic men because they have Larry King.
Neither. Why does it have to be either a compliment or an insult?GTT wrote:
Nouveau-European, awesome! Was I just complimented for being "civilized" or insulted for being "elite"?
I certainly don't feel you're "more 'worldly' and 'knowledgable'"...far from it. At least on this topic.GTT wrote:
Basically, I think what you're saying is because you feel I'm more "worldly" and knowledgable" that my opinion is biased and useless. But what do I know, American English is such a foreign language to me now...
What does whether or not you've already voted have to do with anything? I never said you were any more or less American...just that you've bought into the european lifestyle (and political views, apparently). To say you're out of touch as compared to those of us who live here would be putting it mildly...just as I'm out of touch with the local issues in my state of residence. It's a fact of geographic separation...and I'm on the same continent.GTT wrote:
I already voted actually - just trying to figure out why "where one lives" makes one any more or less American or care more or less about his country, his family that still lives there, or his children that may live there later. Believe me, the guys here would love to send me back so I can stop forcing the democratic ideals of fairness, rule of law (and not personality), and ethics down their throats in the workplace. But, its good to be the boss...*he says as he kicks back, sipping the latte delivered by his smoking hot Ukrainian secretary*
I'll overlook the snideness, since I've already dissected those two web sites in toto. And found them lacking.GTT wrote:
You want detailed plans? Warning though, there's a lot of words and not just sound-bites.
Obama/Biden - http://www.barackobama.com/pdf/ObamaBlu … Change.pdf
McCain/Palin - http://www.johnmccain.com/Informing/Issues/
no uUSM wrote:
you know obama was told to keep his answers in debate short and to the point. i wish we could do the same here.
Last time I checked, neither of them were running for president. And the UK doesn't have a president, anyway.m3thod wrote:
I would prefer Hillary as pres than palin anyday of the week *shudder*
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“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular