usmarine
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ATG wrote:

Mr. Ayers, who was never convicted in the Weather Underground bombings, is now a professor of education at the University of Illinois at Chicago, thank you very much.
oh ok.  lol.  i forgot, you like anarchists.

"he co-founded the violent radical left organization Weatherman, active during the 1960s and 1970s, and was one of its top leaders."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Ayers


what a swell guy

Much of the controversy about Ayers during the decade since the year 2000 stems from an interview he gave to the New York Times on the occasion of the memoir's publication.[15] The reporter quoted him as saying "I don't regret setting bombs" and "I feel we didn't do enough", and, when asked if he would "do it all again" as saying "I don't want to discount the possibility."

Last edited by usmarine (2008-09-01 12:29:52)

Reciprocity
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ATG wrote:

Hilarious; you'd rather have a silent government than one that talks about morals and abstinence.
morality is relative and abstinence is contradictory to 3 or 4 billion years of evolution.
usmarine
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usmarine wrote:

ATG wrote:

Mr. Ayers, who was never convicted in the Weather Underground bombings, is now a professor of education at the University of Illinois at Chicago, thank you very much.
oh ok.  lol.  i forgot, you like anarchists.

"he co-founded the violent radical left organization Weatherman, active during the 1960s and 1970s, and was one of its top leaders."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Ayers


what a swell guy

Much of the controversy about Ayers during the decade since the year 2000 stems from an interview he gave to the New York Times on the occasion of the memoir's publication.[15] The reporter quoted him as saying "I don't regret setting bombs" and "I feel we didn't do enough", and, when asked if he would "do it all again" as saying "I don't want to discount the possibility."
so you were saying ATG?  this doesnt concern the left but a pregnant daughter does?  wow, just wow.
God Save the Queen
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its fair to scrutinize Obama's relationship with a terrorist just as its fair to criticize McCains ties to one of Nixons plumbers. 


The fact remains that Obama was 8 years old when the weathermen were around and I feel he has done enough to condemn and distance himself away from ayers.
usmarine
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God Save the Queen wrote:

its fair to scrutinize Obama's relationship with a terrorist just as its fair to criticize McCains ties to one of Nixons plumbers. 


The fact remains that Obama was 8 years old when the weathermen were around and I feel he has done enough to condemn and distance himself away from ayers.
yes but he started politics with ayers.  doesnt matter how old he was when it started.  and he has distanced himself.  but, seems people are more concerned with the vp's daughter than with something like this, showing complete judgement failure.
God Save the Queen
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I think it shows poor judgement on McCain for choosing a running mate with such political baggage in such a short career.
usmarine
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God Save the Queen wrote:

I think it shows poor judgement on McCain for choosing a running mate with such political baggage in such a short career.
yes.  but he really doesnt choose them tbh.  you know that.
Lotta_Drool
Spit
+350|6400|Ireland

God Save the Queen wrote:

its fair to scrutinize Obama's relationship with a terrorist just as its fair to criticize McCains ties to one of Nixons plumbers. 


The fact remains that Obama was 8 years old when the weathermen were around and I feel he has done enough to condemn and distance himself away from ayers.
O'bama is a beautiful man, I can see why you are attracted to him.  But behind those good looks and charm lies a white man.
FEOS
Bellicose Yankee Air Pirate
+1,182|6627|'Murka

God Save the Queen wrote:

I think it shows poor judgement on McCain for choosing a running mate with such political baggage in such a short career.
What political baggage does she have? The only thing I've seen reported that is remotely questionable was the whole firing of her ex-brother-in-law. An investigation where she basically said "bring it on".

A pregnant daughter who's taking responsibility for her actions? How is that "baggage"?
“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein

Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
God Save the Queen
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something else that should raise real issues.  let it be known I could give a fuck about this womans family.  same way I would care less about jon edwards cheating on his cancer stricken wife or obama going to a church that scares people.

but, there are issues about this woman.


She supported the bridge to nowhere despite what she says now.

She believes that creationism should be taught in school.

Shes against abortion.

She was the head of a 527 group

Her husband works for British Patroleum


Her close relationship with the man who could arguably be the most corrupt politician in the country, Ted Stevens.


Oh yeah, and the firing of her ex brother in law.

Last edited by God Save the Queen (2008-09-01 12:51:07)

God Save the Queen
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Lotta_Drool wrote:

God Save the Queen wrote:

its fair to scrutinize Obama's relationship with a terrorist just as its fair to criticize McCains ties to one of Nixons plumbers. 


The fact remains that Obama was 8 years old when the weathermen were around and I feel he has done enough to condemn and distance himself away from ayers.
O'bama is a beautiful man, I can see why you are attracted to him.  But behind those good looks and charm lies a white man.
dont say evil things like that
jord
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What the fuck does it matter that her husband works for BP...
usmarine
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i agree.  tis why i am voting for obama.  you dont have to convince me.  but i think obama and biden are just as bad.  and i cant wait to spam the forums with Change posters when they stink it up.
God Save the Queen
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jord wrote:

What the fuck does it matter that her husband works for BP...
I pay lots of money for gas.
God Save the Queen
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usmarine wrote:

i agree.  tis why i am voting for obama.  you dont have to convince me.  but i think obama and biden are just as bad.  and i cant wait to spam the forums with Change posters when they stink it up.
I actually used to like McCain until he started pandering to the evangelicals after he talked shit about em.


but youre right.
Mekstizzle
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jord wrote:

What the fuck does it matter that her husband works for BP...
We have our fair share of stupid fuck oil companies too. Infact, alot of countries do. It's just the US has the biggest ones. Although BP aren't as evil as some of the big US ones
FEOS
Bellicose Yankee Air Pirate
+1,182|6627|'Murka

God Save the Queen wrote:

something else that should raise real issues.  let it be known I could give a fuck about this womans family.  same way I would care less about jon edwards cheating on his cancer stricken wife or obama going to a church that scares people.

but, there are issues about this woman.


She supported the bridge to nowhere despite what she says now.
Supported it so much that one of the first things she did was kill it when she took office?

GStQ wrote:

She believes that creationism should be taught in school.
Source?

GStQ wrote:

Shes against abortion.
As is McCain...and most of the Republican Party. Why is that an issue for a Republican VP candidate?

GStQ wrote:

She was the head of a 527 group
Which one, and what did they do that was illegal?

GStQ wrote:

Her husband works for British Patroleum
In the oil fields. About as blue collar as you can get. That's like having an issue with someone's spouse working for GM on the assembly line.

GStQ wrote:

Her close relationship with the man who could arguably be the most corrupt politician in the country, Ted Stevens.
Source? Define "close".

GStQ wrote:

Oh yeah, and the firing of her ex brother in law.
This is the only one that raises an eyebrow. But supposedly there will be an investigation, which she has welcomed. Why don't we stop taking allegations as gospel and wait for the facts to come out?
“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein

Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
jord
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Mek-Stizzle wrote:

jord wrote:

What the fuck does it matter that her husband works for BP...
We have our fair share of stupid fuck oil companies too. Infact, alot of countries do. It's just the US has the biggest ones. Although BP aren't as evil as some of the big US ones
I don't care, he works for them. Because I might work at ASDA does that mean I'm some evil Walmart corporation CEO that kills puppies.
Reciprocity
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God Save the Queen
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FEOS wrote:

God Save the Queen wrote:

something else that should raise real issues.  let it be known I could give a fuck about this womans family.  same way I would care less about jon edwards cheating on his cancer stricken wife or obama going to a church that scares people.

but, there are issues about this woman.


She supported the bridge to nowhere despite what she says now.
Supported it so much that one of the first things she did was kill it when she took office?

GStQ wrote:

She believes that creationism should be taught in school.
Source?

GStQ wrote:

Shes against abortion.
As is McCain...and most of the Republican Party. Why is that an issue for a Republican VP candidate?

GStQ wrote:

She was the head of a 527 group
Which one, and what did they do that was illegal?

GStQ wrote:

Her husband works for British Patroleum
In the oil fields. About as blue collar as you can get. That's like having an issue with someone's spouse working for GM on the assembly line.

GStQ wrote:

Her close relationship with the man who could arguably be the most corrupt politician in the country, Ted Stevens.
Source? Define "close".

GStQ wrote:

Oh yeah, and the firing of her ex brother in law.
This is the only one that raises an eyebrow. But supposedly there will be an investigation, which she has welcomed. Why don't we stop taking allegations as gospel and wait for the facts to come out?
ok.


First, we are talking about a national election and winning a national election.  Being tied to a lobbying group is not a "maverick" image.  If you people cant see that as political bagage then I should work for a campaign because I can see how it would keep people from voting for you.  Ill work for anyone too, Im not tied to ideology.

I think making a commercial with the man is pretty close.  I dont know, Im looking at this through the publics stand point.  Seeing images of Stevens and Palin standing next to eachother while she accepts his endorsement may not be the best thing for her.  Yeah, ofcourse its politics, but most Americans arent politicians.

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/the-tr … mbatt.html

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co … id=topnews







creationism in schools

"Palin's political résumé meets all the essential tests for social conservatives: She opposes same-sex marriage and providing benefits to domestic partners; she backs banning embryonic stem cell research and has raised the idea of teaching creationism alongside evolution in public schools. "


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co … id=topnews

to be fair, she refined her position by stating that it shouldnt have to be mandatory.


"Supported it so much that one of the first things she did was kill it when she took office?"

oh, so she's just another flip flopper

Last edited by God Save the Queen (2008-09-01 13:09:44)

Lotta_Drool
Spit
+350|6400|Ireland
She's a fucking liberal that can't keep her legs closed.

Republicans and Democrats are the same troll boy.
m3thod
All kiiiiiiiiinds of gainz
+2,197|6888|UK
shut your piehole duncecapboy.
Blackbelts are just whitebelts who have never quit.
God Save the Queen
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now I know what DCB stands for
Braddock
Agitator
+916|6507|Éire

Lotta_Drool wrote:

She's a fucking liberal that can't keep her legs closed.

Republicans and Democrats are the same troll boy.
If she were liberal she'd be getting the coat hanger out as we speak.
Spearhead
Gulf coast redneck hippy
+731|6906|Tampa Bay Florida
wait so Sarah Palin isnt the change we can believe in?  O shit now how are they going to get independents?

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