IRONCHEF wrote:
Ok smart guy, you win. Me and the vast majority of the WORLD POPULATION are all sickened with frenzied minds and the vast majority of that population have not had things happen to them, even on a daily basis that more than proves an existence of a supreme being. I alone have had more evidence of his existence and intimate interaction that far outweigh the proof required to learn things that I see, hear, touch, and smell. The problem with arrogant people who lack the balls to even "try" to believe in something greater than themselves is that they need it to be complex, difficult for the unlearned people to understand, and it has to have high worldly acclaim because you're too cowardly to go in on something without the masses behind you. Just as current "theories" are popular now, they'll soon give way to even more impressive and complex theories that made the older ones look foolish. That very concept shows despicable arrogance as you quickly discard what you "thought you knew" for what is now all the rage and boast of your wisdom and learning. This concept has spanned the millenia as has religion..which hasn't changed it's basic precepts.
And yes, one day you will know truths and hopefully you'll have learned them willingly.
As for me, I do know clearly and without distorted judgment that there is a God who literally created our spirits, this world, and many other worlds. He exists just as you and I do. And yes, he actually does love us, his children, regardless of our beliefs and decisions. Sorry you can't fathom that basic truth nor the enormity of what that means.
I do not claim that "the world population are all sickened with frenzied minds". People need to believe in something that aids their understanding, and religion fills that void. I find it foolish, but nevertheless, there it is. I believe them mistaken, but who knows? Obviously, this majority has had things occur to them, but it may not be of a supernatural source. Every time you conclude that the existence of your god is proven, you look as the more foolish. I respect many religious people, who believe, but to make such claims that proof exists is simply wrong.
Naturally, I expected what followed your opening lines. Insults. That I am "arrogant", that I "lack the balls", and "cowardly". Obviously, because I do not believe what you do, I must be doing something wrong, that my personality flaws prevent me from being normal, or whatever. In any situation, you present nothing more than insults, and I could easily call you names and pretend that it is proof that those who do not believe as I do are wrong. By the way, these flaws of mine that you claim I have? I can't claim credit; I would be taking away from what your god has done! He is responsible for how I am, under your doctrine.
Yes, scientific theories always adapt to new evidence and new ideas. That is the point. As we learn more, we can come to new conclusions. It is a sound and logical way of living and learning. Science takes what we know, and creates conclusions. Religion takes a conclusion, and attempts to find facts to make that conclusion. Illogical.
And yes, one day you will know truths and hopefully you'll have learned them willingly. See? I can continue to just repeat EVERYTHING you say, since nothing you say has a shred of proof, only your opinion. I considered repeating your entire treatise here, since it can be easily adapted to my viewpoint, but I felt that too amateur. Sorry you can't fathom that basic truth nor the enormity of what that means.