Kmarion wrote:
Turquoise wrote:
DBBrinson1 wrote:
Did ya give him back change? Obama is everywhere on every topic. It merely depends on which day of the week. He's a friggin' pole policy maker. Did I mention that he has no friggin' experience? example: troop surge.
Imagine if you sat on the board of a big ass company that you're heavily invested in and one of the board members brings forward some guy without a resume or any business experience, stating that for some reason we need to get this guy in the CEO chair asap without ever telling you anything other and change- Would you vote to seat him as CEO? Yea...
Which bring me to my next point. We do know who McCain is. Hell, we all know McCain is the "renegade" Senator, "reaching across the aisles to" .... Which means that McCain is hardly the conservative candidate. However, he is the more predictable of the two. McCain IS NO Bush. But thank god he isn't as left as Ob.
Our version of the Left would be considered Right in Europe. We're by far the most conservative country in the First World, which actually makes us closer to the Third World in mindset (since the Third World tends to be very conservative). With as conservative as Bush has been about certain things, I'd like things to swing leftward now.
Of course, if it swings too far leftward, we'll just see 1994 all over again in 2010. McCain may not be exactly like Bush, but he's run his campaign like he wants to be the next Bush. I don't want that. I'll take the flip flopper... just somebody other than another neocon.
The US is third world like now? Turq has finally gone off the deep end. Either that or hasn't any idea of what defines a nation as third world.
I was mostly referring to social conservatism. We are, by far, one of the most socially conservative countries in the First World. The only things we tend to be comparatively liberal on are immigration, citizenship (including dealing with illegals), race relations, and abortion (since we allow it for a longer period of time than most other countries). Everything else is usually handled comparatively very conservatively.
However, if we're talking about economics, most Third World countries are still very conservative -- if conservative is defined as having little to no social safety net. The poorest nations on the planet don't really have much of a social safety net at all, and they usually have a very small and very rich elite class running everything. Look at how most of Africa is. India isn't much better either. Indonesia is pretty Darwinian. The list goes on...
Still, you are correct that there are exceptions to the rule. South America has taken a leftist turn in recent years, but it's to be expected considering the extreme right-wing governments that preceded the current ones. Cuba became leftist after they overthrew an aristocracy we supported.
It's funny how we've mostly supported right wing governments during the Cold War, but I guess with most of the left wing ones having been Communist or Communist-sympathetic, it's to be expected. Still, it gives an insight into the leanings of our system.