Peter
Super Awesome Member
+494|6404|dm_maidenhead
I made this early February and forgot I didn't post it here lol.

This is just some general tips to get better at spy. Reading this won't automatically make you better, the biggest thing is practice!

When disguising as spy. I won't lie. The disguise is useless. Everyone shoots everyone. You won't do much 'pretending' to be the other team. Don't spend too much time near someone on the enemy team while wearing a disguise. They will shoot you.

Stay away from pyros. Some retarded shit face at valve, decided that FF off is a good thing. So you can shoot everyone on your team, and only kill spies! Fantastic, especially when you can just burn everyone and only the spies will set on fire. There should be an FF on server option to make it fair. But there isn't, so just stay the fuck away from pyros.

Choosing who to disguise as. Don't disguise as spy. People shoot spies whatever team they are on. Its stupid. Also if you disguise as medic people can see that there isn't an ubercharge % under your name. Bad idea. As scout you move slower than scout so it can be a dead giveaway. Heavy and soldier slow you down too much for my liking. So generally I disguise as Pyro and Demo to get to their base and sniper/engi when I am in the base. And disguise as soon as you leave your base. This way if there is a sentry you don't know about it won't shoot you.

Getting to the enemy base. People walking the wrong way are very suspicious. Try and find a way where you won't meet many people. Use you cloak to get around crowded areas. Make sure you don't walk into anyone. Keep an eye out if you start to run low and find a safe spot to hide. If you are cloaked you can still be set on fire, and try not to get in the middle of firefights. Also when cloaking after coming out of water you will be dripping, so watch out.

Never use a teleport. Unless you plan on waiting until the trail goes out you will have a glowing trail showing everyone where you are. This doesn't matter anymore. The trail disappears when you disguise. Unless you are feeling kind and still want to let others use the tele.

Taking out sentries. Unguarded sentries. These are relatively easy. Just place the sapper on the sentry. If you think the engineer is coming back then get out your revolver and shoot at the sentry to quicken its demise. Remember to disguise again afterwards.
If there is an engineer near the sentry then there are a few things that can happen.
1. You sap it and the engineer just keeps hitting the sentry with his wrench. This is good for you. You can just keep sapping it. It will eventually die and you can take him with your revolver.
2. You sap it and he gets out his shotgun. Go invisible and try and get away. Use open spaces and try to go in random directions. Hopefully he will be more focused on you and leave his sentry. If not, just keep trying.
3. You sap it and he goes around it with his wrench fixing it and trying to hit you. You should be able to outmanoeuvre him and keep sapping. If you get low on health just retreat.
Those are the main three I can think of. If there are other enemies near you its pretty hard as the engi can repair and others can kill you.

A good thing for you is when the engineer is standing behind the sentry gun hitting it. Get behind the engineer. Get your knife out end backstab him. You have to get the timing just right. After backstabbing him walk forward press 2 and just keep clicking. You should be able to get the sentry and any other buildings in the vicinity. Watch out for pulling out the sapper too fast. If you pull it out before the engi is dead then you will most likely just die.

Also remember your revolver. If someone starts shooting you just get out your revolver. Its one of the best weapons in the game. You should be able to take most people in a 1 on 1, especially if you get a crit. Your revolver is also good for destruction. If you are out of range to sap something then just shoot it with the revolver. Good examples of this are on ctf_well. Hiding in the enemy base you can destroy buildings outside their base from their battlements and also tele entrances etc outside their spawn from the top level of their base. Also good in their intel room taking out sentries from the other side of the room.


I might add more another time. And I did it quite fast so some bits may not make sense. But meh, hope its useful.
kptk92
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+972|6410|tc_london
Post this on trackr and contribute to the book tbh

(unless you already have )

Btw, add that you can teleport when disguised, the trail will not be shown

Fuck you already added that

Last edited by kptk92 (2008-06-14 03:23:12)

Peter
Super Awesome Member
+494|6404|dm_maidenhead

kptk92 wrote:

Post this on trackr and contribute to the book tbh

(unless you already have )

Btw, add that you can teleport when disguised, the trail will not be shown
Already done both
RavyGravy
Son.
+617|6407|NSW, Australia

Peter wrote:

kptk92 wrote:

Post this on trackr and contribute to the book tbh

(unless you already have )

Btw, add that you can teleport when disguised, the trail will not be shown
Already done both
always two steps ahead
Peter
Super Awesome Member
+494|6404|dm_maidenhead

XxRavenxX wrote:

Peter wrote:

kptk92 wrote:

Post this on trackr and contribute to the book tbh

(unless you already have )

Btw, add that you can teleport when disguised, the trail will not be shown
Already done both
always two steps ahead
I am too good.
kptk92
u
+972|6410|tc_london

Peter wrote:

XxRavenxX wrote:

Peter wrote:


Already done both
always two steps ahead
I am too good.
Not as good as your <OSHI THATS RIGHT I SAID- word here>
DefCon-17
Maple Syrup Faggot
+362|6158|Vancouver | Canada
I definitely agree with the "keep clicking after pressing 2" part.

Occasionally, I'd backstab, hit 2, click once, and die to my surprise, only to find out I actually sapped his dispenser/tele instead of the SG.
Spidery_Yoda
Member
+399|6272

DefCon-17 wrote:

I definitely agree with the "keep clicking after pressing 2" part.

Occasionally, I'd backstab, hit 2, click once, and die to my surprise, only to find out I actually sapped his dispenser/tele instead of the SG.
You can just hold it down you know and it'll sap everything in sight .

Makes switching + sapping much easier and faster than clicking like mad.

Last edited by Spidery_Yoda (2008-06-14 13:18:57)

Tetn1s
Member
+59|6644|Los Angeles
there is a way to take out sentries, i use it.


1. Sap
2. Shoot engineer
3. Sap again (if unsapped)
4. repeat


another way is if the engineers dispensor is out of the reach of the sentry, you can SHOOT the dispensor, then the engi will come and repair it, but he is doesnt have his guard up, so he should be easy to take out, once taken out, disguise and sap.

you can also do this to sentry nests (sentry+dispensor+engineer), just uncloak  where he can see you, and then let him follow you,  then when u are out of the sentry gun reach, kill him.

another tip: spys ussually win gun fights vs an engineer
because: shotgun is slower, shotgun spreads, engineers are ussually very inaccurate (thats why they have a sentry shoot for them!)

just my 2c

edit: more stuff

dont sap teleporters at base if playing ctf. it gives you away and everyone is aware, which will make the job more difficult (who cares about points?)

Last edited by Ned_Z (2008-06-14 15:51:30)

Brasso
member
+1,549|6632

Good points Ned.  One thing.  As of a couple patches ago, you can take the teleporter freely (even undisguised) and there will be no trail for you.  Only as spy though.
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Jestar
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EvilDaedeulus Made a good spy guide.
Funky_Finny
Banned
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Jestar wrote:



EvilDaedeulus Made a good spy guide.
Pardon my french but he's fucking good.
Stimey
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Funky_Finny wrote:

Jestar wrote:



EvilDaedeulus Made a good spy guide.
Pardon my french but he's fucking good.
Pardon'd
Check out the Pyro one too.
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THOOOM
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Jestar wrote:



EvilDaedeulus Made a good spy guide.
He makes awesome guides!
Funky_Finny
Banned
+456|6134|Carnoustie, Scotland

Stimey wrote:

Pardon'd
Check out the Pyro one too.
Damn. Awsm. After playing ~5 hours with Pyro I never thought I'd learn much more.

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