tkoi
Utahraptor!
+148|6139|Texas

Funky_Finny wrote:

Let's also say that stopping power doubles the power of your bullets (which I think it does, not sure).
Wrong. Stopping power increases power by only 40%. Do your research.
GodFather
Blademaster's bottom bitch
+387|6211|Phoenix, AZ
if i used a P90 with stopping power then most rounds would miss... especially running - now with double tap + running means more of my 50 bullets hit the guy...

plus it sounds wicked sweet
aj0404
It'll just be our little secret
+298|6341|Iowa...
Double Tap+SAW=rape rape rape
Paco_the_Insane
Phorum Phantom
+244|6636|Ohio
Double Tap+Mini Uzi = Happy Handgun
Lynx14
Member
+41|5962
Most useless perk = eavesdrop im sorry.
Spearhead
Gulf coast redneck hippy
+731|6682|Tampa Bay Florida
The OP is so completely wrong its not even funny... wow

Eavesdrop is UNDENIABLY the most USELESS perk -- anyone who says otherwise has no clue what the hell they're even talking about.

Doubletap is fucking awesome.  Great at close quarters.  GREAT IN MATCHES WHERE KILLING PEOPLE QUICK IS MOST IMPORTANT.
Roger Lesboules
Ah ben tabarnak!
+316|6569|Abitibi-Temiscamingue. Québec!

Lynx14 wrote:

Most useless perk = eavesdrop im sorry.
He won!
motherdear
Member
+25|6643|Denmark/Minnesota (depends)
if you think about it one shot to the head is a one shot kill with either perk. so double tap is good for good aimers while stopping power is used for the more long range shooting, depends on the task does same damage but is suited for different situations.
DefCon-17
Maple Syrup Faggot
+362|6148|Vancouver | Canada

Spearhead wrote:

The OP is so completely wrong its not even funny... wow

Eavesdrop is UNDENIABLY the most USELESS perk -- anyone who says otherwise has no clue what the hell they're even talking about.

Doubletap is fucking awesome.  Great at close quarters.  GREAT IN MATCHES WHERE KILLING PEOPLE QUICK IS MOST IMPORTANT.
You don't know what the hell you're talking about, tbh.

I assume you never play organized games where knowing what the enemy is up to is invaluable?
StormEye
Sniper
+50|6637|Malibu

DefCon-17 wrote:

Spearhead wrote:

The OP is so completely wrong its not even funny... wow

Eavesdrop is UNDENIABLY the most USELESS perk -- anyone who says otherwise has no clue what the hell they're even talking about.

Doubletap is fucking awesome.  Great at close quarters.  GREAT IN MATCHES WHERE KILLING PEOPLE QUICK IS MOST IMPORTANT.
You don't know what the hell you're talking about, tbh.

I assume you never play organized games where knowing what the enemy is up to is invaluable?
Sorry, but I have to say the same thing to you about "You don't know what the hell you're talking about, tbh."

On Xbox or any other console, you use the in-game voice to chat amongst the teammates, and the use of eavesdrop is viable in this case.

HOWEVER, on PC, when it comes to ORGANIZED match situation, everyone use ventrilo or teamspeak. In-game voice is only used in public servers and it is hardly ever used anyway.
Spearhead
Gulf coast redneck hippy
+731|6682|Tampa Bay Florida

DefCon-17 wrote:

Spearhead wrote:

The OP is so completely wrong its not even funny... wow

Eavesdrop is UNDENIABLY the most USELESS perk -- anyone who says otherwise has no clue what the hell they're even talking about.

Doubletap is fucking awesome.  Great at close quarters.  GREAT IN MATCHES WHERE KILLING PEOPLE QUICK IS MOST IMPORTANT.
You don't know what the hell you're talking about, tbh.

I assume you never play organized games where knowing what the enemy is up to is invaluable?
Ohhhhh

You're a console player

Please specify next time.  We are basically playing two different games.
DefCon-17
Maple Syrup Faggot
+362|6148|Vancouver | Canada

StormEye wrote:

DefCon-17 wrote:

Spearhead wrote:

The OP is so completely wrong its not even funny... wow

Eavesdrop is UNDENIABLY the most USELESS perk -- anyone who says otherwise has no clue what the hell they're even talking about.

Doubletap is fucking awesome.  Great at close quarters.  GREAT IN MATCHES WHERE KILLING PEOPLE QUICK IS MOST IMPORTANT.
You don't know what the hell you're talking about, tbh.

I assume you never play organized games where knowing what the enemy is up to is invaluable?
Sorry, but I have to say the same thing to you about "You don't know what the hell you're talking about, tbh."

On Xbox or any other console, you use the in-game voice to chat amongst the teammates, and the use of eavesdrop is viable in this case.

HOWEVER, on PC, when it comes to ORGANIZED match situation, everyone use ventrilo or teamspeak. In-game voice is only used in public servers and it is hardly ever used anyway.
..Good point.

I forgot about TS/Vent/etc.
Funky_Finny
Banned
+456|6124|Carnoustie, Scotland

PBAsydney wrote:

Replace doubletap with stopping power

Same result, less ammo spent.
Okay I'm going to put that in OP, it sums it up perfectly.

GGF0RCE wrote:

Funky_Finny wrote:

Let's also say that stopping power doubles the power of your bullets (which I think it does, not sure).
Wrong. Stopping power increases power by only 40%. Do your research.
And how much does the double tap increase the speed of fire?

Last edited by Funky_Finny (2008-02-20 03:01:25)

Bernadictus
Moderator
+1,055|6729

Ryan wrote:

Double tap + M16 is a must. I find that the regular M16 fires too slow.
Double tap + M249 is wickedly awesome as well.
StormEye
Sniper
+50|6637|Malibu
I do believe double tap is 50% increase in RoF.

I do, however, prefer to use stopping power with most guns, since I am quite confident with my shots, anyway.
specialistx2324
hahahahahhaa
+244|6680|arica harbour

Funky_Finny wrote:

(Apart from Eavesdrop)
Double tap.
In short

PBAsydney wrote:

Replace doubletap with stopping power

Same result, less ammo spent.
In long
Let's say double tap doubles the speed of firing (which I think it does, not sure).
Let's also say that stopping power doubles the power of your bullets (which I think it does, not sure).

This makes double tap stupidly.... stupid.


Think about it logically, in a close quarters situation, you want to get as much damage on the target as possible.

Now assume the gun is pointing directly at the target, a meter away (in other words, not one chance of missing, even with one bullet.)

Now assume it will take four bullets to kill the target.

If you fire two with stopping power, the target will die, and say it takes half a second.

If you fire four with double tap, the target will die, and it will also take half a second.

Fair enough. Although you are now 2 bullets more down with double tap than with stopping power.

Therefore I determine that stopping power is, infact, more useful than double tap, as you save more ammo. Also you have to hit the target with half as many bullets.

Prove me wrong.
not all bullets hit the target directly you noob.
Funky_Finny
Banned
+456|6124|Carnoustie, Scotland

specialistx2324 wrote:

not all bullets hit the target directly you noob.
I said hypothetically you retard, GG on maturity.
LaidBackNinja
Pony Slaystation
+343|6701|Charlie One Alpha
M4 + Steady Aim + Double tap on Hardcore is all you will ever need.

Funky_Finny wrote:

specialistx2324 wrote:

not all bullets hit the target directly you noob.
I said hypothetically you retard, GG on maturity.
Hypothetically is bullshit because it just doesn't happen.
Would be the same as saying that Iron lungs is useless because, hypothetically, you can shoot someone right away and not need the extra holding-breath time.
In the same vein, Stopping power is useless because, hypothetically, you can shoot every enemy in the head anyway. etc. etc.

Last edited by LaidBackNinja (2008-02-20 07:17:06)

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FatherTed
xD
+3,936|6492|so randum

Fenris_GreyClaw wrote:

DaBombadier wrote:

wah1188 wrote:

Does double tap actually help shotguns?
Actually Double Tap on the pump action shotgun (the one that you have to cock after every shot) actually speeds up the process of cocking the weapon. Yes you can get more shells into them more quickly.
Sleight of Hand on the M1014 is still better than the W1200 with Double Tap. You can load and fire them almost as fast as firing them with a Double Tapped W1200.
Negative.

I find having 7 shells, with more damage and a fairly good fire rate (using DT), far more useful than 4 shells, with less damage. Unless you're practically touching the enemy, you're going to have to use 2 shells to take him down. 1 shell does the job for the pump action.
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Always raining and foggy
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GunSlinger OIF II
Banned.
+1,860|6635

FatherTed wrote:

Fenris_GreyClaw wrote:

DaBombadier wrote:


Actually Double Tap on the pump action shotgun (the one that you have to cock after every shot) actually speeds up the process of cocking the weapon. Yes you can get more shells into them more quickly.
Sleight of Hand on the M1014 is still better than the W1200 with Double Tap. You can load and fire them almost as fast as firing them with a Double Tapped W1200.
Negative.

I find having 7 shells, with more damage and a fairly good fire rate (using DT), far more useful than 4 shells, with less damage. Unless you're practically touching the enemy, you're going to have to use 2 shells to take him down. 1 shell does the job for the pump action.
you catch people glitiching on xbl?
FatherTed
xD
+3,936|6492|so randum

GunSlinger OIF II wrote:

FatherTed wrote:

Fenris_GreyClaw wrote:


Sleight of Hand on the M1014 is still better than the W1200 with Double Tap. You can load and fire them almost as fast as firing them with a Double Tapped W1200.
Negative.

I find having 7 shells, with more damage and a fairly good fire rate (using DT), far more useful than 4 shells, with less damage. Unless you're practically touching the enemy, you're going to have to use 2 shells to take him down. 1 shell does the job for the pump action.
you catch people glitiching on xbl?
Haha it's generally the other way round, except i don't get caught
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Always raining and foggy
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GunSlinger OIF II
Banned.
+1,860|6635

FatherTed wrote:

GunSlinger OIF II wrote:

FatherTed wrote:


Negative.

I find having 7 shells, with more damage and a fairly good fire rate (using DT), far more useful than 4 shells, with less damage. Unless you're practically touching the enemy, you're going to have to use 2 shells to take him down. 1 shell does the job for the pump action.
you catch people glitiching on xbl?
Haha it's generally the other way round, except i don't get caught
gotta show me how
FatherTed
xD
+3,936|6492|so randum

GunSlinger OIF II wrote:

FatherTed wrote:

GunSlinger OIF II wrote:


you catch people glitiching on xbl?
Haha it's generally the other way round, except i don't get caught
gotta show me how
Private match, 5 mins.
Small hourglass island
Always raining and foggy
Use an umbrella
GunSlinger OIF II
Banned.
+1,860|6635

FatherTed wrote:

GunSlinger OIF II wrote:

FatherTed wrote:

Haha it's generally the other way round, except i don't get caught
gotta show me how
Private match, 5 mins.
cant right now, gotta make breakfast and go somewhere. wait an hour.
tkoi
Utahraptor!
+148|6139|Texas

StormEye wrote:

I do believe double tap is 50% increase in RoF.

I do, however, prefer to use stopping power with most guns, since I am quite confident with my shots, anyway.
Nope, double tap is 100% increase in rof, hence the "double"

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