foxone
Member
+2|6184
Hi!

This video will show you the way F35B evades J10 missiles then escape (fly high) 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNlsIDntY9w

My friends and me agree that the only way F35b escape J10. Don't you think?

Visit their site flyf35.com for more video.
Havok
Nymphomaniac Treatment Specialist
+302|6889|Florida, United States

Not a bad tactic.  Seems like the dispersement of flares would lessen the chance of dodging the missiles, but apparently it works.
Djbrown
Member
+129|6711|Adelaide, Aussieland
thats all good and well versus a pilot that simply spams missiles, but for example when i try to missile down enemy jets ill fire 2 at them first up. if they have thier flares, they will use them since 2 are coming, and if they dont 2 have a good chance of taking them down. if they dont release flares ill fire the other 4. your tactic wouldnt work then
killer21
Because f*ck you that's why.
+400|6805|Reisterstown, MD

I am no where near a good enough pilot but I do know how to make a person get rid of their flares without having to fire one single missile.  An F35 is not nearly as nimble as a J10 so it would be hard to escape that many missiles.
thraSK
Best ___ in Aus
+57|6197
That was a very smooth move!
foxone
Member
+2|6184

Djbrown wrote:

thats all good and well versus a pilot that simply spams missiles, but for example when i try to missile down enemy jets ill fire 2 at them first up. if they have thier flares, they will use them since 2 are coming, and if they dont 2 have a good chance of taking them down. if they dont release flares ill fire the other 4. your tactic wouldnt work then
If you can escape first 2 missiles, then use full afterburn to fly as high as you can I think you can lose J10. Make sure you can make a "short spin" like the guy in the movie did, otherwise you will leave battle area and die.

another movie http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tOIQUbdgcqA - you will see after droped flares he flew up right away and made a spin, that's how  j10 lost him coz J10 can't fly high

Last edited by foxone (2007-12-24 23:38:43)

Bull3t
stephen brule
+83|6516
looks good, and all there is to it is a spin.
saggers
Squadron Leader
+21|6204|Manchester, England
Maybe on your websire include a typed explanation of how high to go, what to press etc

Sorry to sound stupid but how do you do the spin?

Last edited by saggers (2007-12-25 03:54:10)

foxone
Member
+2|6184
This is not my website - I just found it via youtube while searching for tag F35 & J10
hacefrio
Member
+4|6459
Great post. I've been looking for something like this for a while.
SamFisher199
Airwhore
+40|6528|Netherlands
Omg u made a website about.....
xXDomination
iDF!
+26|6613|California
The flare timing was good but if his opponent didn't spam all his missiles and had reaquired a lock long enough to get two more missiles off he would have died, like this clip here from the same pilot. The key to surviving indefinitely in the F35 is to never lose control of your plane and to prevent those situations from occurring in the first place.

killer21 wrote:

An F35 is not nearly as nimble as a J10 so it would be hard to escape that many missiles.
The J10 is quite the opposite of nimble, clumsy. That is actually one of the small advantages the F35 has against it. In short range engagements, the agility of the F35 makes it easy to evade and avoid missile lock all together.

foxone wrote:

you will see after droped flares he flew up right away and made a spin, that's how  j10 lost him coz J10 can't fly high
J10 can fly just as high as the F35.

Using that maneuver against a good J10 pilot won't keep you alive for very long.

Last edited by xXDomination (2007-12-25 14:35:19)

R.Vactzi
Member
+3|6355
I reaaaally hope they make a map for bf3 with a set of equally preforming jets for both sides.
Then we'd se who is who.
That would be very interesting.

Last edited by R.Vactzi (2007-12-25 15:35:50)

konfusion
mostly afk
+480|6765|CH/BR - in UK

I love how the guy flew back to base in Domination's link. Obviously these tactics aren't flawless...

-konfusion
Flyjetandkill
Planewhore
+74|6597|The Sky!!!!
This tactic is not that good, you just need to make a sharp turn to the right or left and use flares after that go up.
iMPaCT.uK
Member
+72|6711|UK , Birmingham
I lol'd
aimless
Member
+166|6339|Texas
I don't like that he flys so high and stalls.
SteikeTa
Member
+153|6962|Norway/Norwegen/ Norge/Noruega

foxone wrote:

Hi!

This video will show you the way F35B evades J10 missiles then escape (fly high) 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNlsIDntY9w

My friends and me agree that the only way F35b escape J10. Don't you think?

Visit their site flyf35.com for more video.
Crappy tactics....
venom6
Since day One.
+247|6773|Hungary
J-10 -> You
100% Irishpride
Banned
+81|6374|Dublin
thats lame! I know a load of different ways without heading for the clouds!

foxone
Member
+2|6184
The movie in post #20 is good for demo how to shoot down J10 - I don't think it is good for demo how to evade J10 missiles. If J10 got full lock your tail, and if you can evade its missiles then escape, that is a good stuff. I will hide in the clouds if that helps me alive :-)
hacefrio
Member
+4|6459
Its is a good way to start.  Of course Irishpride's maneuvers are more effective but it's very difficult to learn from his video.  Too much view changing
and such.  It would be helpful if one of the pros made a video like in foxone's post but showing multiple effective maneuvers breaking down each one for different situations.
ZeqTr
I BELIEVE I CAN FLY....
+121|6415
should i say LOL,ROFL or LMAO. yea, best tacs ever go spinning! i must say that i was shocked. "to survive you must bail" rofl. you should watch fredshrooms film. all the dodging stuff is there to be learned. i hope to see some of you guys public using this method! i need easy kills for my stats ^^
foxone
Member
+2|6184
"to survive you must bail" --> what is it??
RoosterCantrell
Goodbye :)
+399|6694|Somewhere else

R.Vactzi wrote:

I reaaaally hope they make a map for bf3 with a set of equally preforming jets for both sides.
Then we'd se who is who.
That would be very interesting.
Things get interesting on maps like dragon valley when some enemy steals a j-10.  It's fun to fight a j-10 in a j-10. 

I just got into flying, was getting good, but got sick of  team whining/Tking/force Tks/stealing for the jet.

Last edited by RoosterCantrell (2007-12-31 10:52:01)

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