BF2S Forums Is changing the "User Settings" in BF2 cheating ?

[Fin]Dami3n wrote:

We are talking about user settings...
C:\Program Files\EA GAMES\Battlefield 2\mods\bf2\Settings\Usersettings.con <--!

I agree if it's in that folder you can change you're own document settings. thats where you can add additional accounts, resolution, graphic option levels, etc. But...

Getting honest here... (No I wont search for the thread, either) I changed some settings last spring with another account i started after my curiosity g0t the best of me. I'm talking about changing the setting where if you get close enough to an enemy you can read their nametag above their head. Well the change was as simple as changing any other usersettings.con file... Well the default setting are how  DICE made the game. The changed setting would allow me to see the nametags very far off in the distance and would hardly fade out if you were on a big map... Well about 3-4 weeks later it became known as the "nametag hack". FFS, I learned a hard lesson. It gave me an very unfair advantage, obviously.

So it can be interpreted as cheating to change your latency configuration, etc. But I agree anything other than what I described above is not cheating...

Andoura wrote:

I dont even know what you guys are talking about!

Where have you been for the last...year?

T.Pike wrote:

In your opinion, is changing the "User Settings" in BF2 cheating ?

Only if you do it :p

..teddy..jimmy wrote:

Andoura wrote:

I dont even know what you guys are talking about!

Where have you been for the last...year?

looll srsly i still dont know what you guys are talking about

Not cheating.

Fallschirmjager10 wrote:

Did you get this from my ban appeal thread Pike?

Yes, it sparked MY interst in the subject.

As you know I didn't get involved in your case.

I don't know enough to have an opinion and wanted to know what others thought.

This POLL is for my own personal edification.

kajukenbo_kid wrote:

iMPaCT.uK wrote:

doesnt even do anything stop crying

actually, it does do something

99% of the time i regged perfectly with these, but i still got the occasional heavy dusting on peoples head(typically this only happened when people were pinging 100+)... the chopper hitboxes were A LOT closer than what they would normally be too



rem
rem Settingsfile automatically saved by bf2
rem
SettingsManager.boolSet GSClPunkBuster 1
SettingsManager.floatSet GSDefaultLatencyCompensation 0.075000
SettingsManager.boolSet GSExtrapolateFrame 0
SettingsManager.U32Set GSExtrapolationTime 12
SettingsManager.U32Set GSInterpolationTime 1
SettingsManager.U32Set GSPerfLogAtPlayerCount 30
SettingsManager.stringSet GSPlayerName "kajuk3nbo"
SettingsManager.boolSet GSShowNetGraph 0
SettingsManager.boolSet GSUseObjectCache 1

So...actually hitting what you aim at is now cheating?

Riiiiiiiiiight.

^^^ so what does all that do??   If it improves the game shouldnt that be the sort of thing in updates??

so why isnt it just how it works?

Unclean009 wrote:

I wouldn't consider it cheating.

So that explains why people are not affected by my flash bangs! D:<

kajukenbo_kid wrote:

99% of the time i regged perfectly with these, but i still got the occasional heavy dusting on peoples head(typically this only happened when people were pinging 100+)... the chopper hitboxes were A LOT closer than what they would normally be too



rem
rem Settingsfile automatically saved by bf2
rem
SettingsManager.boolSet GSClPunkBuster 1
SettingsManager.floatSet GSDefaultLatencyCompensation 0.075000
SettingsManager.boolSet GSExtrapolateFrame 0
SettingsManager.U32Set GSExtrapolationTime 12
SettingsManager.U32Set GSInterpolationTime 1
SettingsManager.U32Set GSPerfLogAtPlayerCount 30
SettingsManager.stringSet GSPlayerName "kajuk3nbo"
SettingsManager.boolSet GSShowNetGraph 0
SettingsManager.boolSet GSUseObjectCache 1

To get extrapolationtime to work you have to set GSExtrapolateFrame to 1, but i wouldnt recommend doing that if this works for you, besides 12 is a bit low?

Fredrik wrote:

kajukenbo_kid wrote:

99% of the time i regged perfectly with these, but i still got the occasional heavy dusting on peoples head(typically this only happened when people were pinging 100+)... the chopper hitboxes were A LOT closer than what they would normally be too



rem
rem Settingsfile automatically saved by bf2
rem
SettingsManager.boolSet GSClPunkBuster 1
SettingsManager.floatSet GSDefaultLatencyCompensation 0.075000
SettingsManager.boolSet GSExtrapolateFrame 0
SettingsManager.U32Set GSExtrapolationTime 12
SettingsManager.U32Set GSInterpolationTime 1
SettingsManager.U32Set GSPerfLogAtPlayerCount 30
SettingsManager.stringSet GSPlayerName "kajuk3nbo"
SettingsManager.boolSet GSShowNetGraph 0
SettingsManager.boolSet GSUseObjectCache 1

To get extrapolationtime to work you have to set GSExtrapolateFrame to 1, but i wouldnt recommend doing that if this works for you, besides 12 is a bit low?

i did research along with testing, and extrapolateframe was something like a lag setting for people with really nice computers.  i did this all a while ago, but 90% of the people who have tweaked settings would throw in random numbers and if they played well, they assumed it worked.  which is why a lot of people think this is all placebo.  what i found was, interp was the biggest factor(same goes for the majority of games with hitboxes),  interpolation is basically the time in milliseconds(i think, pretty sure it was milliseconds) you receive an update. so in theory, the smaller the gap between updates, the closer the hitbox will be to the player model.  in cs they have restricted settings that actually change the location of the hitbox, making you harder to hit.  another factor, (which is a pretty big one) is your internet.  for registration purposes, you would actually be better off playing on a dsl connection, rather than cable(assuming you could ping decent to the server you are on) because cable loses more packets than dsl, and the more packets lost, the less info the server has about where everyone is located.

its things like this that have made bf2 bad, there were a handful of players i know of, that without "good usersettings" would not play as well.  which is why i actually stopped using these settings, and gave them to anyone who wanted them.  i only used them if i was going to play against people who i knew had tweaked shit... thats why cod4 owns, you CAN tweak your config to register a little better, but even on stock settings you will hit fine.  but none of this info is useful for cod, because cod4 has no hitboxes.