BF2S Forums Last weekend of freedom in the UK

The_Mac wrote:

buLLet_t00th wrote:

The_Mac wrote:

I think Britain is the ultimate example of why big socialist governments fail, they try to satisfy everybody, and instead satisfy big businesses, lobbyists, and public health officials.
The British need to reexamine their path and see that big governments are not the solution to maintaining a stable and free country.

Are you living in a little shack on top of a mountain or are you just stupid?

Yeah, there's definitely something to argue with there. Step off your perch, parrot, and debate. If not, feel free to leave.

Last edited by buLLet_t00th (2007-06-28 14:45:17)

buLLet_t00th wrote:

The_Mac wrote:

buLLet_t00th wrote:

Are you living in a little shack on top of a mountain or are you just stupid?

Yeah, there's definitely something to argue with there. Step off your perch, parrot, and debate. If not, feel free to leave.

So you're telling me that you don't think/believe that the US government has any role in satisfying big businesses or lobbyists. Have you seen whats happening in Iraq? All because America needs to secure oil reserves and set up camp in the Middle East.

Its hard to argue with people that don't know much.

Edit: Off topic slightly.....but I couldn't let that lie.

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

buLLet_t00th wrote:

The_Mac wrote:

Yeah, there's definitely something to argue with there. Step off your perch, parrot, and debate. If not, feel free to leave.

So you're telling me that you don't think/believe that the US government has any role in satisfying big businesses or lobbyists. Have you seen whats happening in Iraq? All because America needs to secure oil reserves and set up camp in the Middle East.

Its hard to argue with people that don't know much.

Edit: Off topic slightly.....but I couldn't let that lie.

Completely off-topic.

The_Mac wrote:

buLLet_t00th wrote:

So you're telling me that you don't think/believe that the US government has any role in satisfying big businesses or lobbyists. Have you seen whats happening in Iraq? All because America needs to secure oil reserves and set up camp in the Middle East.

Its hard to argue with people that don't know much.

Edit: Off topic slightly.....but I couldn't let that lie.

mmhrmm, speaking of people who don't know much, you'd be enlightened to know that the United States' chief supplier of oil is Canada, followed by Saudi Arabia.

Last edited by fadedsteve (2007-06-28 15:43:57)

KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

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The_Mac wrote:

KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

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Saddam Hussein lies. Even if you took him seriously, that's rubbish. There's also the necessity to point out that if Iraq has oil and the US is one big lobbying mess, why aren't we importing any oil from Iraq right now? Why is our biggest exporter Canada? Maybe we just wanted to rid terrorists in the middle east.
Of course, we could just reason with terrorists, you know, Clinton achieved great success with that in the '90's.

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jord wrote:

It's his choice if he wants to smoke, who are you to tell unhealthy people what they can and can't do.

Bubbalo wrote:

jord wrote:

It's his choice if he wants to smoke, who are you to tell unhealthy people what they can and can't do.

The person having to stand in the same room?

Besides which, if that's your stance, explain crack, weed and other such banned substances.

Scorpion0x17 wrote:

Bubbalo wrote:

jord wrote:

It's his choice if he wants to smoke, who are you to tell unhealthy people what they can and can't do.

The person having to stand in the same room?

Besides which, if that's your stance, explain crack, weed and other such banned substances.

Can't speak for Jord, but I say make 'em all legal.

Bruce-SuperNub wrote:

Scorpion0x17 wrote:

Bubbalo wrote:

The person having to stand in the same room?

Besides which, if that's your stance, explain crack, weed and other such banned substances.

Can't speak for Jord, but I say make 'em all legal.

Then you're stupid.

Cougar wrote:

buLLet_t00th wrote:

You're the fucking stinky, unhealthy minority my friend! I can't fucking wait!

Fuck you.....

buLLet_t00th wrote:

But why should I have to breathe the unfiltered smoke? If they want to smoke they can go and do it somewhere else, I haven't told them they can't smoke, the big boys upstairs do that!

.....and again in a different hole.....

buLLet_t00th wrote:

Because waitresses and waiters still have to go and serve food and drinks there (I know thats a lame excuse but thats one of the reasons).

A smoker has the choice of either smoking or not smoking......a non-smoker doesn't have the choice of whether breathing it in or not (unless they're really good at holding their breath). Think about it for a second....it makes sense!

......and once more in the face for good luck.


Smoking is a choice, just like your craptastic opinion.  How would you like it if the government banned your opinion?  Working in a restaurant where people smoke is also a choice, so I guess we should ban working where you please as well, since we are banning choices and all.

I got into a fight at a restaurant about 3 years ago because of this.  There I am in the smoking section, smoking my cigarette and watching a football game on TV as I waited on my food.  Some dick-cheese, not much different than yourself, sitting 10 feet away in a booth behind a glass wall asks me to put out my cigarette.  I told him no.  He stands up and walks over to my stool and sticks his finger in my face and tells me to put it out.  So I did. 

As he turned to walk away, I grabbed the ash-tray and threw it at his head and split the fuckers nugget open, then commenced to kick the shit out of him.  Spent a night in the brig for that one.

It was my choice to smoke a cigarette.  it was his choice to eat in a restaurant that has a smoking section, it was his choice to sit 10 feet away from the smoking section, it was his choice to be a dick and it was my choice to split his head open for trying to oppress my decision to have cigarette.  The whole thing could have been avoided if the asshole would have respected the decisions of others, instead of trying to force his way on other people around him.


Moral of the story:  Don't be a dick.  Respect the choices of others.

buLLet_t00th wrote:

=OBS= EstebanRey wrote:

On Sunday July 1st the ban on smoking in enclosed places comes into effect in England & Wales and makes tomorrow night the last in which you can enjoy a fag with your pint at the local.  I for one plan to go out with a camera so I can take a picture of myself with a ciggie to show the grand kids.  Are there any other UK smokers here or anyone other smokers who live under a ban like this already?

I live in Oxford and for most of the pubs, popping outside won't be a problem; being a University city most of the pubs in town have gardens (although you do have to put up with a lot of American students, lol).  Our nightclubs, in comparison, won't currently let you out once you're in so how is that going to work?

Muscian Joe Jackson is an outspoken opponent of the smoking ban and had this to say: -

"Smokers are now the only minority whose minority status is quoted as justification for abuse.  Britain is becoming a society in which the extreme agendas of health officials and lobby groups are allowed to determine public policy. Freedom of choice, tradition, tolerance, pleasure, property rights, market forces and public opinion are being swept aside by a fanatical fringe."

You're the fucking stinky, unhealthy minority my friend! I can't fucking wait!

buLLet_t00th wrote:

=OBS= EstebanRey wrote:

On July 1st the ban on Islam comes into effect in England and Wales.  I'm a muslim.

Muscian Joe Jackson is an outspoken proponent of the Islam ban and had this to say: -

"Muslims are now the only minority whose minority status is quoted as justification for abuse.  Britain is becoming a society in which the extreme agendas of health officials and lobby groups are allowed to determine public policy. Freedom of choice, tradition, tolerance, pleasure, property rights, market forces and public opinion are being swept aside by a fanatical fringe."

You're the fucking stinky, unhealthy minority my friend! I can't fucking wait!