BF2S Forums Great Britain has an Extremist Problem

Look at the monster you created ATG!

The_Mac wrote:

tahadar wrote:

ATG wrote:

This is the mainstream thinking of Islam.

no, it is not. (im a muslim in london, just so you know)

Well, I hate to break it to you, but for all I know, you're pretending to be something you're not, or you're not something you really are.
I don't disbelieve you, but I don't believe you.
Simply because I'm not going to change my opinion or ideas because you claim something personal. As it is, the Muslims in england, 33% of them openly endorsed the Subway bombings. I have a feeling something bad's going to happen.

And thats not me spreading paranoia. Socialism has its prices.

don't understand what you're trying to say there. from the 60 or so Muslims i know in england, all condemned 9/11 and the 7/7 bombings. we're all pretty much sick and tired from of these extremists destroying the name of Islam.

The_Mac wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

First World countries need immigration, plain and simple.  It's not specifically a socialism thing.

Socialism naturally lowers the economy, due to governmental interferences with just about everything relating to money. The Economy has a reasonable flex over the birthrate, for civilized countries. When Europe no longer had a sufficient amount of youth to support their old, they had to haul in the Arabs from the Middle East.
Because Socialism was introduced, Arabs were too.

I disagree.  Look at Canada.  They are considerably more socialized than we are, but they are doing very well economically.  They've had a federal budget surplus for over a decade, and their trade surplus is still very healthy.

Socialism can work quite well in concordance with capitalism, but admittedly, it is a precarious balance.  The aging out of First World populations is more reflective of things like education, birth control, and longer lifespans, than it is of any economic model.

We see less aging out here because of our higher immigration rates.  Most immigrants are very young (in their 20s or teens), and they tend to have large families.

ATG wrote:

Holy Undying Topic Batman!

Clear!

Alright you're good to go.

There's a topic?

ATG wrote:

These are things being said in mainstream mosques in England Cameron.
This is the mainstream thinking of Islam.

Why deny the obvious?

I would not even dare to make such statement, without a serious insigth of the problem. Not just a Youtube.com video.

First, do you live in Britain? No

Do you have factual professional statics investigation about the British Islamic Community? No

Do you have a proper education//skill to analyze social&cultural situation like this? mmm doubt it to.

Do you actually, at least know some professional concepts//tools in the fields of sociology, psychology even political science to refer? doubt it to

Have you ever being in Britain for vacations?, have you talk-socialize with a Muslim British? doubt it

Don't take it wrong, I am not making a personal assault here. Just trying to express how lightly you are talking "facts" about such a complex situation. We tend to forget there are people who actually study, go to colleague, university and waste some years doing research PhD. about this things. Its just a matter of self respect, I wouldn't speak about things i don't know, i don't like to fool myself.

Last edited by RAVAGE (2007-06-06 19:02:52)

RAVAGE wrote:

First, do you live in Britain? No

Since when does that stop people in this section? 

Does everyone live in the US?

ATG wrote:

I posted this in January.
2007-01-16 15:19:56

I don't think I could possibly be more over a thread.

In fact, I now hate George Bush more than I hate Bin Laden so Allu Akbar you bastards, pass the Koran and ammunition.

go hemp