its still a load of bullshitFen321 wrote:
Iraqi deaths survey 'was robust'GunSlinger OIF II wrote:
not even worth addressing anymore. why dont you bring up the lancet survey, im sure senstationalism is what your looking for.Summary:BBC wrote:
The British government was advised against publicly criticising a report estimating that 655,000 Iraqis had died due to the war, the BBC has learnt.
The British government has been advised not to publicly criticize the Lancet report, which has estimated 655,000 Iraqi deaths due to the Iraq war. Ministry of Defense chief scientific adviser has stated that the survey’s methods were “close to best practice” and that the study design “robust.” Documents released from the Foreign Office include an e-mail conversation between two officials concerning the Lancet report in which one official stated, “Are we really sure the report is likely to be right? That is certainly what the brief implies.” The officials comment being directed at the significantly higher number of deaths in Iraq. While the response from another official stated, “We do not accept the figures quoted in the Lancet survey as accurate.” In an attempt to reconcile with accepting the methodology and that of its findings, government officials, have issued a written statement stating, “However, the Lancet figures are much higher than statistics from other sources, which only goes to show how estimates can vary enormously according to the method of collection.”
Meaning -- the methodology that is "better" does not dictate better accuracy....wtf?
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Dude you can't completely dismiss it. This isn't some 1st year university student shagging his calculator.GunSlinger OIF II wrote:
its still a load of bullshitFen321 wrote:
Iraqi deaths survey 'was robust'GunSlinger OIF II wrote:
not even worth addressing anymore. why dont you bring up the lancet survey, im sure senstationalism is what your looking for.Summary:BBC wrote:
The British government was advised against publicly criticising a report estimating that 655,000 Iraqis had died due to the war, the BBC has learnt.
The British government has been advised not to publicly criticize the Lancet report, which has estimated 655,000 Iraqi deaths due to the Iraq war. Ministry of Defense chief scientific adviser has stated that the survey’s methods were “close to best practice” and that the study design “robust.” Documents released from the Foreign Office include an e-mail conversation between two officials concerning the Lancet report in which one official stated, “Are we really sure the report is likely to be right? That is certainly what the brief implies.” The officials comment being directed at the significantly higher number of deaths in Iraq. While the response from another official stated, “We do not accept the figures quoted in the Lancet survey as accurate.” In an attempt to reconcile with accepting the methodology and that of its findings, government officials, have issued a written statement stating, “However, the Lancet figures are much higher than statistics from other sources, which only goes to show how estimates can vary enormously according to the method of collection.”
Meaning -- the methodology that is "better" does not dictate better accuracy....wtf?
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It's the Ministry of Defence's chief scientific adviser who has gone on the record to say that the survey's methods were "close to best practice" and the study design was "robust".
600,000 is a lot of dead people....
Blackbelts are just whitebelts who have never quit.
i have no choice but to dismiss man. that survey was done in the 3rd year of the conlict and i was there in the second year. in order for that lancet survey to be true i would have had to been swimming in iraqi civilian blood every day of my deployment and that is truly far from the case. 600,000 people is alot. im getting a ULCER from hearing that nonsensical number being thrown around during debates in my school. another example of the propaganda war. the iraqi gov't itself says the number is closer to 100,000. and that is much more believeable and acceptable. but like i always say, it kinda cheapens the value of human life even more so when we speak about the deaths so casually.m3thod wrote:
Dude you can't completely dismiss it. This isn't some 1st year university student shagging his calculator.GunSlinger OIF II wrote:
its still a load of bullshitFen321 wrote:
Iraqi deaths survey 'was robust'
Summary:
The British government has been advised not to publicly criticize the Lancet report, which has estimated 655,000 Iraqi deaths due to the Iraq war. Ministry of Defense chief scientific adviser has stated that the survey’s methods were “close to best practice” and that the study design “robust.” Documents released from the Foreign Office include an e-mail conversation between two officials concerning the Lancet report in which one official stated, “Are we really sure the report is likely to be right? That is certainly what the brief implies.” The officials comment being directed at the significantly higher number of deaths in Iraq. While the response from another official stated, “We do not accept the figures quoted in the Lancet survey as accurate.” In an attempt to reconcile with accepting the methodology and that of its findings, government officials, have issued a written statement stating, “However, the Lancet figures are much higher than statistics from other sources, which only goes to show how estimates can vary enormously according to the method of collection.”
Meaning -- the methodology that is "better" does not dictate better accuracy....wtf?
Source
It's the Ministry of Defence's chief scientific adviser who has gone on the record to say that the survey's methods were "close to best practice" and the study design was "robust".
600,000 is a lot of dead people....
Last edited by GunSlinger OIF II (2007-04-14 15:14:27)
you're on the money GunSlinger but as someone said "one death is a tragedy a million deaths are a statistic " - I can't remember who though, maybe Churchill?
Edit : It was Stalin..
Edit : It was Stalin..
Last edited by IG-Calibre (2007-04-14 15:49:55)