You are so fucking wrong. I read it this morning and the thread of usmarine has several days out there. I posted not for my own agenda, or to get some karma. I posted coz we don't know how lucky we all are. If I wanted to prove usmarine wrong I would have posted in his thread, which I didn't. I thought he was wrong with the title, that's it.weamo8 wrote:
What he is saying is true, but like all liberals, he is only pointing out the truth for his own agenda. He wants to prove someone else wrong (namely usmarine2007), not help anyone. His thread is not quite as noble as it might seem.siciliano732 wrote:
100% TRUE...FINALLY SOMEONE WITH A SOLID HEAD ON THEIR SHOULDERS. +1sergeriver wrote:
Do you ever think how lucky you are? Take a look.
For kids in many rural parts of Africa, the colorful PlayPump is the first playground equipment they’ve ever seen. When they give a push and jump onboard for their first ride, smiles of wonder break out on their faces.
These kids don't have toys, pc's, or even clean water.
Many toilets use more water in one flush than most rural families in Africa have for one day of cleaning, cooking, drinking, and bathing. The average distance an African villager must walk to a water source is five miles (eight kilometers). A five-gallon (19-liter) container can weigh about 40 pounds (18 kilograms), and many women and girls suffer injuries carrying so much weight every day. A child dies somewhere in the world every 15 seconds from a water-borne illness. The PlayPump can pump up to 370 gallons (1,400 liters) of clean water an hour.
While some members of the DST think people in Africa should starve and die of Aids, we should thank for the little things we enjoy and these kids won't be able to dream with during their entire lifetime.
To conjoin the two threads I would only say that Africans dont need playground toys, they like to play around with dead bodies.
Dickpenguin.killer wrote:
i ownz the african childrens (no offense)
Get over it. You're not exactly an angel yourself.usmarine2007 wrote:
Nice retaliation thread.
/Going to find some South America stuff.
Blackbelts are just whitebelts who have never quit.
m3thod wrote:
Get over it. You're not exactly an angel yourself.usmarine2007 wrote:
Nice retaliation thread.
/Going to find some South America stuff.
m3thod wrote:
Get over it.
Way to pad that invisible post count!usmarine2007 wrote:
m3thod wrote:
Get over it. You're not exactly an angel yourself.usmarine2007 wrote:
Nice retaliation thread.
/Going to find some South America stuff.m3thod wrote:
Get over it.
Blackbelts are just whitebelts who have never quit.
I am not particularly questioning you, but your argument would have been much more convincing if you would have just left his thread completely out of yours.sergeriver wrote:
You are so fucking wrong. I read it this morning and the thread of usmarine has several days out there. I posted not for my own agenda, or to get some karma. I posted coz we don't know how lucky we all are. If I wanted to prove usmarine wrong I would have posted in his thread, which I didn't. I thought he was wrong with the title, that's it.weamo8 wrote:
What he is saying is true, but like all liberals, he is only pointing out the truth for his own agenda. He wants to prove someone else wrong (namely usmarine2007), not help anyone. His thread is not quite as noble as it might seem.siciliano732 wrote:
100% TRUE...FINALLY SOMEONE WITH A SOLID HEAD ON THEIR SHOULDERS. +1
To conjoin the two threads I would only say that Africans dont need playground toys, they like to play around with dead bodies.
Thank what?sergeriver wrote:
We should thank for the little things
Fun Fact: Actually, while that is an assumed law of calculus-based mainstream chicago economic school of thought, it is not true.Konfusion0 wrote:
It's one of those laws of economics: you will always want more than you have.
[image]http://www.vexen.co.uk/countries/files/aid.jpg[/image]usmarine2007 wrote:
You think I like to see that shit serge? I have seen it with my own eyes and it is beyond sad. I knew the food and supplies we were helping deliver would be taken away from the children as soon as we left. The only way to help would be a full scale invasion then occupy the place for many many years. How many of your countries are up for that? Ireland? Sweden? Canada?
I hear no volunteers.
The chart on the right shows the amount of aid given to developing countries. It is shown as percent of the Gross National Income, so it includes both aid given by corporations and by individuals. The Report notes how the countries of the G7 - the richest industrial countries - dominate the global aid flow. It also notes how the most generous five countries, all above the UNs target of 0.7% GNI, are all small countries - Norway, Luxembourg, Denmark, Sweden and the Netherlands who have all "consistently met or surpassed the UN target". Japan has only recently fallen to such a low position (third from the bottom), nearly as stingy as the USA.
http://www.vexen.co.uk/
You know where the money goes right? Not to the people who need it most of the time.
...................Which is the case in every country on Earth.usmarine2007 wrote:
You know where the money goes right? Not to the people who need it most of the time.
Can you see your post count or something?
Blackbelts are just whitebelts who have never quit.
I think Africa has more issues with that then the US or England for example.m3thod wrote:
...................Which is the case in every country on Earth.usmarine2007 wrote:
You know where the money goes right? Not to the people who need it most of the time.
Often overlooked is the fact private international giving by Americans is over three and one-half times that of U.S. government foreign assistance. Think about how much money that is considering the US(Government) gives twice as much as the next nation... Put the private and government together and you have an unreal amount of money. Too bad that isn't figured into the UN target.JahManRed wrote:
[image]http://www.vexen.co.uk/countries/files/aid.jpg[/image]usmarine2007 wrote:
You think I like to see that shit serge? I have seen it with my own eyes and it is beyond sad. I knew the food and supplies we were helping deliver would be taken away from the children as soon as we left. The only way to help would be a full scale invasion then occupy the place for many many years. How many of your countries are up for that? Ireland? Sweden? Canada?
I hear no volunteers.
The chart on the right shows the amount of aid given to developing countries. It is shown as percent of the Gross National Income, so it includes both aid given by corporations and by individuals. The Report notes how the countries of the G7 - the richest industrial countries - dominate the global aid flow. It also notes how the most generous five countries, all above the UNs target of 0.7% GNI, are all small countries - Norway, Luxembourg, Denmark, Sweden and the Netherlands who have all "consistently met or surpassed the UN target". Japan has only recently fallen to such a low position (third from the bottom), nearly as stingy as the USA.
http://www.vexen.co.uk/
http://www.techcentralstation.com/082102N.html
http://www.gatesfoundation.org/GlobalDevelopment/
Last edited by Kmarion (2007-03-22 14:34:30)
Xbone Stormsurgezz
he didn't do a retaliation, yet somehow the "members of the DST think people should starve and die of AIDS" phrase falls in...weamo8 had it right; just because sergeriver c&p a link doesnt mean he's "FINALLY SOMEONE WITH A SOLID HEAD ON THEIR SHOULDERS." Ad misericordiam aside, siciliano, what makes this viewpoint so much more practical, logical, better, etc. that marine's view???sergeriver wrote:
You are so fucking wrong. I read it this morning and the thread of usmarine has several days out there. I posted not for my own agenda, or to get some karma. I posted coz we don't know how lucky we all are. If I wanted to prove usmarine wrong I would have posted in his thread, which I didn't. I thought he was wrong with the title, that's it.weamo8 wrote:
What he is saying is true, but like all liberals, he is only pointing out the truth for his own agenda. He wants to prove someone else wrong (namely usmarine2007), not help anyone. His thread is not quite as noble as it might seem.siciliano732 wrote:
100% TRUE...FINALLY SOMEONE WITH A SOLID HEAD ON THEIR SHOULDERS. +1
To conjoin the two threads I would only say that Africans dont need playground toys, they like to play around with dead bodies.
Well put. +1.Kmarion wrote:
Often overlooked is the fact private international giving by Americans is over three and one-half times that of U.S. government foreign assistance. Think about how much money that is considering the US(Government) gives twice as much as the next nation... Put the private and government together and you have an unreal amount of money. Too bad that isn't figured into the UN target.JahManRed wrote:
[image]http://www.vexen.co.uk/countries/files/aid.jpg[/image]usmarine2007 wrote:
You think I like to see that shit serge? I have seen it with my own eyes and it is beyond sad. I knew the food and supplies we were helping deliver would be taken away from the children as soon as we left. The only way to help would be a full scale invasion then occupy the place for many many years. How many of your countries are up for that? Ireland? Sweden? Canada?
I hear no volunteers.
The chart on the right shows the amount of aid given to developing countries. It is shown as percent of the Gross National Income, so it includes both aid given by corporations and by individuals. The Report notes how the countries of the G7 - the richest industrial countries - dominate the global aid flow. It also notes how the most generous five countries, all above the UNs target of 0.7% GNI, are all small countries - Norway, Luxembourg, Denmark, Sweden and the Netherlands who have all "consistently met or surpassed the UN target". Japan has only recently fallen to such a low position (third from the bottom), nearly as stingy as the USA.
http://www.vexen.co.uk/
http://www.techcentralstation.com/082102N.html
http://www.gatesfoundation.org/GlobalDevelopment/
Not only that, but imo your stats are pointless jahmanred. Yeah, those countries give a higher percentage... good for them, I guess that make them more righteous. Fact is, however, the USA still feeds more bellies and keeps more people from starving than any other country, even if the total is a lower percentage of our GDP.
I just find it strange that you are holding the fact that other countries have a pathetic GDP against us. Face reality. The US still gives the most, by quite a bit.
^^ I was going to mention all the money that the US puts in research and development which saves millions of lives also, but that would have been overkill. I'm more comfortable giving through private funds myself since they seem to be more effective than just handing money over to corrupt governments.
Last edited by Kmarion (2007-03-22 15:26:28)
Xbone Stormsurgezz
Again, another My country is better than yours thread. I was pointing how lucky we all are having our jobs, studying, money for a pc, whatever, while these people is happy getting clean water.
Yeah, we know, only one percent actually gets there - but one percent of one million is still a fucking huge load of money for those people.usmarine2007 wrote:
You know where the money goes right? Not to the people who need it most of the time.
-konfusion
Hey sergeriver... My country is better than your country.sergeriver wrote:
Again, another My country is better than yours thread. I was pointing how lucky we all are having our jobs, studying, money for a pc, whatever, while these people is happy getting clean water.
Im just kidding. Whether this thread has hidden motives or not, you are right. It is almost impossible to comprehend how easy my life is compared to many. It embarrasses me to think about how much I complain about stupid shit when people are starving to death and drinking the same water that their livestock.
+1 for making a good point.
Don't feel embarrassed, feel grateful.weamo8 wrote:
Hey sergeriver... My country is better than your country.sergeriver wrote:
Again, another My country is better than yours thread. I was pointing how lucky we all are having our jobs, studying, money for a pc, whatever, while these people is happy getting clean water.
Im just kidding. Whether this thread has hidden motives or not, you are right. It is almost impossible to comprehend how easy my life is compared to many. It embarrasses me to think about how much I complain about stupid shit when people are starving to death and drinking the same water that their livestock.
+1 for making a good point.
Agreed and understood. But I will call out the guilt trips when they are posted. Mine was a response.sergeriver wrote:
Again, another My country is better than yours thread. I was pointing how lucky we all are having our jobs, studying, money for a pc, whatever, while these people is happy getting clean water.
Xbone Stormsurgezz
So if a poor man forgoes a meal to feed another mouth in need, he is less righteous than a billionaire that feeds two mouths in need? Your train of thought is silly at best.weamo8 wrote:
Not only that, but imo your stats are pointless jahmanred. Yeah, those countries give a higher percentage... good for them, I guess that make them more righteous. Fact is, however, the USA still feeds more bellies and keeps more people from starving than any other country, even if the total is a lower percentage of our GDP.
Good points. I still believe what I did in that thread, but I'm also thankful for what I have, and this is a good reminder of why I should be.sergeriver wrote:
Do you ever think how lucky you are? Take a look.
For kids in many rural parts of Africa, the colorful PlayPump is the first playground equipment they’ve ever seen. When they give a push and jump onboard for their first ride, smiles of wonder break out on their faces.
These kids don't have toys, pc's, or even clean water.
Many toilets use more water in one flush than most rural families in Africa have for one day of cleaning, cooking, drinking, and bathing. The average distance an African villager must walk to a water source is five miles (eight kilometers). A five-gallon (19-liter) container can weigh about 40 pounds (18 kilograms), and many women and girls suffer injuries carrying so much weight every day. A child dies somewhere in the world every 15 seconds from a water-borne illness. The PlayPump can pump up to 370 gallons (1,400 liters) of clean water an hour.
While some members of the DST think people in Africa should starve and die of Aids, we should thank for the little things we enjoy and these kids won't be able to dream with during their entire lifetime.
You dont seem to be reading, or comprehending or something. I clearly said that those who give a higher percentage are more righteous by my beliefs (the "widow's mite" and that sort of thing).jonsimon wrote:
So if a poor man forgoes a meal to feed another mouth in need, he is less righteous than a billionaire that feeds two mouths in need? Your train of thought is silly at best.weamo8 wrote:
Not only that, but imo your stats are pointless jahmanred. Yeah, those countries give a higher percentage... good for them, I guess that make them more righteous. Fact is, however, the USA still feeds more bellies and keeps more people from starving than any other country, even if the total is a lower percentage of our GDP.
I am simply saying that, using your scenario, the poor man is more righteous, but the billionaire simply did more good. This is all pretty simple logic to me, but let me know if you are still confused and I will continue to work with you.
im a dick?