I learned everything I needed to know about islam on 9/11 and shortly thereafter.
The west will eliminate these cretins eventually.
muslim=nazi
The west will eliminate these cretins eventually.
muslim=nazi
According to whom?Mr.Pieeater wrote:
Islamic extremists want to make the entire world an Islamic state.
According to the Islamic Extremists.Bubbalo wrote:
According to whom?Mr.Pieeater wrote:
Islamic extremists want to make the entire world an Islamic state.
Credible source about Iran's oil offer? Well, here are the sources. Sorry, it wasn't 1 billion, it was 20 million barrels. Here are two credible sources:Mr.Pieeater wrote:
If these videos about a TRUE story are propaganda, then what do you think isn't propaganda? Where are you getting your TRUE news from?Surkill wrote:
Dude, those videos were all propaganda. You should know that Iran never attacked any country for over 200 years. I think that all this is just exaggerated. I certainly think that ther is a problem of Muslim extremism, but war is not the way forward. Only justice can restore peace.
You know, one million Iranians held a candle light vigil in Tehran to support the US on September 12th, 2001. Iran did help the US by providing intelligence on Al Queda and in 2003, they did approach the US with an offer to improve relations. They did offer to recognize Israel and the two state solution, and to demilitarize Hizbollah and discourage violance against Israel. And still Nejad offered peace talks witht eh US when Iran oil ministry offered one billion barrels of oil after Katrina.
And what did the Bush administration do? Demonize, humiliate and refuse Iran's proposals. What a shame. Bush has no leadership.
You can go to the following site, where is posts an article from a pro Israel group that encourages dialouge.
http://www.aljazeera.com/cgi-bin/review/article_full_story.asp?service_ID=13216
How do you bring "justice" to restore peace? Sanctions? Peace-talks? Tried that, it doesn't work with these people. If you can't figure that out, then when the Muslim extremists attack, you need to come back to this post and kiss my ass in front of everyone. Sometimes war is the only way to get through to people, do you think a murder would give a shit about talking about his crime? No, he gives a shit about being executed though, doesn't he?
The Iranians may have held a candle-light vigil on September 12th, but was Ahmadinejad with them? He is the one running the country, and trust me, he has the control of that country. The United States is a democracy and you can see how much all of the anti-war people are affecting the war. They are doing a troop escalation now, the anti-war really made a difference, didn't they? And I support the war fully, just to let people know.
You SHOW me proof that Iran was supporting peace between Isreal and Hizbollah... And I mean from a credible source. Are we talking about the same Iran who wants to wipe Isreal of the face of the earth? Or is there another Iran? I'm a bit confused. Did you even watch the entire set of videos? You must be able to read Arabic and have studied up on Muslim teachings, in order for you to claim the things you are claiming. Because the woman in the videos knows a lot about it. She almost died because of it. You must be a Muslim expert...
ONCE AGAIN, SHOW ME PROOF that the Iranians offered one billion barrels of oil and that Bush rejected them. Show me, go ahead, I'll be waiting... Also, Iran just wouldn't give one billion barrels of oil, they probably wanted something in return from the US, like a reactor or something. Assuming what you say is true.
I'm waiting for your credible source.
You must be a terrorist if you have such close communications with them.buLLet_t00th wrote:
According to the Islamic Extremists.Bubbalo wrote:
According to whom?Mr.Pieeater wrote:
Islamic extremists want to make the entire world an Islamic state.
Yes! correct! Just like the nazis said all jews were evil! Well put! The nazi party was a religeon. Just like being Muslim. Just like there are muslim against the extremist terrorists, There were faithful Nazis that were against Hitler! I remember the anti Hitler Nazi party.theelviscerator wrote:
I learned everything I needed to know about islam on 9/11 and shortly thereafter.
The west will eliminate these cretins eventually.
muslim=nazi
LOFUKINLMr.Pieeater wrote:
Just be glad that Australia isn't important enough for the Muslim terrorists to attack. Now go put a shrimp on the Bar-b and stfu.Spark wrote:
OH NOES MUSLIMS ARE GOING TO KILL US ALLL
Yawn.
When did i state that Muslims killing innocent Christians is Okay? Please reference to my responses because I have never stated anything remotely to this nature. I do not dispute the events that happened to this women -- it is undoubtedly tragic, but I find it hardly convincing that you can state "the type of enemy we are facing" then over look the example i gave you with regards to Israel's handling of last years war against Lebanon. Do you think farmers pose a real threat to Israel, because i know damn well millions of non exploded explosives from cluster bombs are not going to discriminate and only kill people from Hezbollah.Mr.Pieeater wrote:
Once again, if you think Muslims killing innocent Christians in Lebanon is okay, then you can't be helped. I respect your opinion and your points though. Nothing this woman says in this video is fake, it is a true story and is meant to communicate to people the type of enemy we are facing.Fen321 wrote:
Alright, once again you said "Good side of the conflict." There is NO GOOD SIDE, we do not live in ideological contexts when explaining situations in the ME. Was it GOOD for Israel to bomb the majority of southern Lebanon with Cluster bombs, especially when this portion of land is arable IE good for farming?
You do realize that countries within the Middle East (some) view Israel liken to a terrorist organization, but with a lot more firepower hence they can't really fuck with them.
All i can say is that the women is presenting the situation as she sees it and i do not have to generalize out of this one women's experience and now place myself in some sort of position where i fear the influx of Muslims anywhere. Look at the purpose of your post its not to edify me of the horrors of the plight of those in Lebanon its a pathetic attempt at fear mongering -- "The western world needs to realize what we are fighting against." Come on now how can you say this -- we don't live in isolation meaning things are going to start happening to us because they just decide last week to hate us.
I suggest you look into the more deeply into some of the reasons these people "hate." And if you can derive one point as to why they hate that isn't tied to "radical Islam" then you sir have no idea what you are talking about.
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IE Radical Islam = Political tool just a hint.
I personally trust a person who has experienced something more than I trust a person who is on a forum on the internet. You could come back at me and say, "Then why should we trust you?", but I am backing up my opinion with this womans experience. If you can find a video of a person who experienced things from the Muslim side that justifies their actions, then I would love to see it.
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Well , you know, I've shared a Sub with Binny boy.jonsimon wrote:
You must be a terrorist if you have such close communications with them.buLLet_t00th wrote:
According to the Islamic Extremists.Bubbalo wrote:
According to whom?
Wrong. They have stated their aim time and again to create a pan-Islamic superstate. Basically, an Islamic version of the US.buLLet_t00th wrote:
According to the Islamic Extremists.Bubbalo wrote:
According to whom?Mr.Pieeater wrote:
Islamic extremists want to make the entire world an Islamic state.
links please. as far as I know, Iran had before hand knowledge of of the 9/11 hijackers and even afforded them visas to travel from afghanistan through iran and right to saudi arabia. i really think your full of shit buddy, sorry, but i smell the bullshit.Surkill wrote:
Dude, those videos were all propaganda. You should know that Iran never attacked any country for over 200 years. I think that all this is just exaggerated. I certainly think that ther is a problem of Muslim extremism, but war is not the way forward. Only justice can restore peace.
You know, one million Iranians held a candle light vigil in Tehran to support the US on September 12th, 2001. Iran did help the US by providing intelligence on Al Queda and in 2003, they did approach the US with an offer to improve relations. They did offer to recognize Israel and the two state solution, and to demilitarize Hizbollah and discourage violance against Israel. And still Nejad offered peace talks witht eh US when Iran oil ministry offered one billion barrels of oil after Katrina.
And what did the Bush administration do? Demonize, humiliate and refuse Iran's proposals. What a shame. Bush has no leadership.
This is the first time I've heard of the 'fact' that Iran had knowledge of the 9/11 hijackers intentions?GunSlinger OIF II wrote:
links please. as far as I know, Iran had before hand knowledge of of the 9/11 hijackers and even afforded them visas to travel from afghanistan through iran and right to saudi arabia. i really think your full of shit buddy, sorry, but i smell the bullshit.Surkill wrote:
Dude, those videos were all propaganda. You should know that Iran never attacked any country for over 200 years. I think that all this is just exaggerated. I certainly think that ther is a problem of Muslim extremism, but war is not the way forward. Only justice can restore peace.
You know, one million Iranians held a candle light vigil in Tehran to support the US on September 12th, 2001. Iran did help the US by providing intelligence on Al Queda and in 2003, they did approach the US with an offer to improve relations. They did offer to recognize Israel and the two state solution, and to demilitarize Hizbollah and discourage violance against Israel. And still Nejad offered peace talks witht eh US when Iran oil ministry offered one billion barrels of oil after Katrina.
And what did the Bush administration do? Demonize, humiliate and refuse Iran's proposals. What a shame. Bush has no leadership.
thats not what i was addressing. anybody could fart out facts.m3thod wrote:
This is the first time I've heard of the 'fact' that Iran had knowledge of the 9/11 hijackers intentions?GunSlinger OIF II wrote:
links please. as far as I know, Iran had before hand knowledge of of the 9/11 hijackers and even afforded them visas to travel from afghanistan through iran and right to saudi arabia. i really think your full of shit buddy, sorry, but i smell the bullshit.Surkill wrote:
Dude, those videos were all propaganda. You should know that Iran never attacked any country for over 200 years. I think that all this is just exaggerated. I certainly think that ther is a problem of Muslim extremism, but war is not the way forward. Only justice can restore peace.
You know, one million Iranians held a candle light vigil in Tehran to support the US on September 12th, 2001. Iran did help the US by providing intelligence on Al Queda and in 2003, they did approach the US with an offer to improve relations. They did offer to recognize Israel and the two state solution, and to demilitarize Hizbollah and discourage violance against Israel. And still Nejad offered peace talks witht eh US when Iran oil ministry offered one billion barrels of oil after Katrina.
And what did the Bush administration do? Demonize, humiliate and refuse Iran's proposals. What a shame. Bush has no leadership.
More to the point is Iran under any obligations to provide the US of intel?
What links are you after? Cause Surkill posted his links a bit further up.GunSlinger OIF II wrote:
links please.Surkill wrote:
Dude, those videos were all propaganda. You should know that Iran never attacked any country for over 200 years. I think that all this is just exaggerated. I certainly think that ther is a problem of Muslim extremism, but war is not the way forward. Only justice can restore peace.
You know, one million Iranians held a candle light vigil in Tehran to support the US on September 12th, 2001. Iran did help the US by providing intelligence on Al Queda and in 2003, they did approach the US with an offer to improve relations. They did offer to recognize Israel and the two state solution, and to demilitarize Hizbollah and discourage violance against Israel. And still Nejad offered peace talks witht eh US when Iran oil ministry offered one billion barrels of oil after Katrina.
And what did the Bush administration do? Demonize, humiliate and refuse Iran's proposals. What a shame. Bush has no leadership.
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ever listen to their own words Bubs?Bubbalo wrote:
According to whom?Mr.Pieeater wrote:
Islamic extremists want to make the entire world an Islamic state.
Iran/Iraq war anyone?Surkill wrote:
You should know that Iran never attacked any country for over 200 years.
You mean the one where iraq invaded iran and iran defended themselves? Yeah what about it?Liberal-Sl@yer wrote:
Iran/Iraq war anyone?Surkill wrote:
You should know that Iran never attacked any country for over 200 years.
Ya Iraq attacked Iran first. See thats what attack means.Liberal-Sl@yer wrote:
Iran/Iraq war anyone?Surkill wrote:
You should know that Iran never attacked any country for over 200 years.
You have actually come to believe this ludicrous government-fed story about islamic extremists wanting to kill you... No wonder you can't take a little sarcasm. Luckily I take no offense from people I pity. Have a good day.Mr.Pieeater wrote:
Haha, you act excited like you want to wear one. You mom should have spanked you more when you were a kid. Assuming you're not a kid now, in that case go to your room, son.oug wrote:
Yay! Turbans for everyone!Mr.Pieeater wrote:
The western world needs to realize what we are fighting against. Islamic extremists want to make the entire world an Islamic state.