Ok so I just called a gamestop and was asking if they kept broken PS1 or PS2 game controllers when he said no. I said oh do you know where I may be able to get one? I then was dumb and said it was for a pc mod and he just hung up the phone no explanation why, so being the prick I am I call back to talk to a manager. I tell him the same thing, I am looking for a broken PS1 or PS2 game controller for a PC Mod and he said he had to stop the conversation because modding is illegal. BS.... modding your own rig is not illegal as long as I am not modding it to resell. I am taking the risk of making something go poof. I hate dumbass Corporations who think that modding is something bad. I don't know this was just a little rant.
Poll
Is modding Illegal?
| Yes | 11% | 11% - 9 | ||||
| No | 71% | 71% - 54 | ||||
| Don't know | 17% | 17% - 13 | ||||
| Total: 76 | ||||||
The salesman is wrong. So's his manager. And if they're right, say goodbye to 1/3 of BF2S.
no its not. IS that zbourd any better for bf2?
it's like internet piracy, it's illigal but just try and stop us.
When the word "mod" is thrown around the console ring, people assume it means you're stealing games. This attitude tends to reverberate among the crowd that sell games.
Modding is what keeps their companies alive because when we fry something we have to buy something to replace it. I could see their point is I was taking a XBOX or PS and modding it then reselling it to someone else but What I do with my things should be up to me. I paid for it I own it. I can throw it off a bridge tape it and put it on the net, but I can't modify my PC. Screw them!!!!!!!!!!!!
I was cool I liked the button layout but I broke it after 3 months of lans the buttons started to do weird things.Backupwayback wrote:
no its not. IS that zbourd any better for bf2?
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It is the intent of license agreements to tell you what you can and can't do with the product you buy. If it was as simple as "I own it now," the whole agreement would fit in an area smaller than a paragraph.Neoburn_1035 wrote:
Modding is what keeps their companies alive because when we fry something we have to buy something to replace it. I could see their point is I was taking a XBOX or PS and modding it then reselling it to someone else but What I do with my things should be up to me. I paid for it I own it. I can throw it off a bridge tape it and put it on the net, but I can't modify my PC. Screw them!!!!!!!!!!!!
That being said, the pencil-necks that spread legalese hoodoo like this don't realize that there are things customers can do with their products that don't involve theft.
Last edited by unnamednewbie13 (2007-02-26 16:54:19)
Depends on the mod. A lot of people, especially in games shops will associate the word mod with mod chip. Asthetic mods are not and will never be, illegal - that's like saying you can't put a sticker on your console.
Yeah that was my original intent of this post was to rant about Companies telling me I can't mod anything with out do it with the intent of stealing something.unnamednewbie13 wrote:
That being said, the pencil-necks that spread legalese hoodoo like this don't realize that there are things customers can do with their products that don't involve theft.
you should go back and own the manager and his store up.
"you know life is what we make it, and a chance is like a picture, it'd be nice if you just take it"
Modifying is Illegal simply because you need to realize when you buy a product, your not actually buying THE product, but rather a license to use that product, subject to their terms. You don't actually own the console. Sony does. Sony is just letting you use it as long as you agree not to do anything to it that falls outside of the EULA.
However, games that allow for user created content, like HL2 and BF2, it is generally accepted that those types of modifications are legal.
However, games that allow for user created content, like HL2 and BF2, it is generally accepted that those types of modifications are legal.
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Modding is not illegal. There is no legal ground whatsoever on which anyone can claim modding a console is illegal. However, with the current trend of intellectual property being "the corp is always right," modding software is risky. If, for some reason, a corporation wanted to sue you for modding software, they could claim they did not sell you the software, they merely sold you the liscense to use it. It's complete bullshit, but it's the way intellectual property in the states is mutating.
Incorrect, when you buy an Xbox, you buy an Xbox. You are not buying a liscense agreement to use it and microsoft cannot repossess it. That argument is only feasible in the software world, and even there it's bullshit.Elamdri wrote:
Modifying is Illegal simply because you need to realize when you buy a product, your not actually buying THE product, but rather a license to use that product, subject to their terms. You don't actually own the console. Sony does. Sony is just letting you use it as long as you agree not to do anything to it that falls outside of the EULA.
However, games that allow for user created content, like HL2 and BF2, it is generally accepted that those types of modifications are legal.
jonsimon wrote:
Modding is not illegal. There is no legal ground whatsoever on which anyone can claim modding a console is illegal. However, with the current trend of intellectual property being "the corp is always right," modding software is risky. If, for some reason, a corporation wanted to sue you for modding software, they could claim they did not sell you the software, they merely sold you the liscense to use it. It's complete bullshit, but it's the way intellectual property in the states is mutating.
I can not believe it, I finally agree with you on something. Will wonders never cease....jonsimon wrote:
Incorrect, when you buy an Xbox, you buy an Xbox. You are not buying a liscense agreement to use it and microsoft cannot repossess it. That argument is only feasible in the software world, and even there it's bullshit.
Yeah modding is not illegal as long as you don't sell it or give it to others.
You can even sell physical mods.A-Unit64 wrote:
Yeah modding is not illegal as long as you don't sell it or give it to others.
Modding is NOT illegal! It's your product! You paid for it, it's yours.
Can someone please tell me what you mean by a PC mod. I know you can change a chip or something in a Play Station and it will let you use copied games, but I get the impression Neoburn wanted to connect a console device to his PC. Is that right?
Sure is nice to think that, isn't it? But no...{M5}Sniper3 wrote:
Modding is NOT illegal! It's your product! You paid for it, it's yours.
A bag of kiwis doesn't have an EULA. Big-time electronics like console gaming systems do. Isn't it great how lawyers work?
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Only thing is... How exactly will they find out? Do random house searches?unnamednewbie13 wrote:
Sure is nice to think that, isn't it? But no...{M5}Sniper3 wrote:
Modding is NOT illegal! It's your product! You paid for it, it's yours.
A bag of kiwis doesn't have an EULA. Big-time electronics like console gaming systems do. Isn't it great how lawyers work?
It's more of a sleeper thing, though I expect what you suggest sometime in the future as a freshly-implemented "feature."{M5}Sniper3 wrote:
Only thing is... How exactly will they find out? Do random house searches?unnamednewbie13 wrote:
Sure is nice to think that, isn't it? But no...{M5}Sniper3 wrote:
Modding is NOT illegal! It's your product! You paid for it, it's yours.
A bag of kiwis doesn't have an EULA. Big-time electronics like console gaming systems do. Isn't it great how lawyers work?
unnamednewbie13 wrote:
It's more of a sleeper thing, though I expect what you suggest sometime in the future as a freshly-implemented "feature."{M5}Sniper3 wrote:
Only thing is... How exactly will they find out? Do random house searches?unnamednewbie13 wrote:
Sure is nice to think that, isn't it? But no...
A bag of kiwis doesn't have an EULA. Big-time electronics like console gaming systems do. Isn't it great how lawyers work?
Buying a crowbar isn't illegal, but using it to rob a house is.
Buying a bottle of JD isn't illegal, but driving after you've drunk it is.
Buying a knife isn't illegal, but stabbing someone to death with it is.
Why should modding be any different?
Buying a bottle of JD isn't illegal, but driving after you've drunk it is.
Buying a knife isn't illegal, but stabbing someone to death with it is.
Why should modding be any different?
I don't know. Fire the question off to Sony.Pubic wrote:
Buying a crowbar isn't illegal, but using it to rob a house is.
Buying a bottle of JD isn't illegal, but driving after you've drunk it is.
Buying a knife isn't illegal, but stabbing someone to death with it is.
Why should modding be any different?