(T)eflon(S)hadow
R.I.P. Neda
+456|7256|Grapevine, TX
Note: this was forwarded to me from my Mom. [Mom's forward stuff like this to their Marine sons']

Take what you want, it's just easy reading material, flame what you want. I just wanted to share, I haven't been by in a while...  The only thing I can personally coo berate is, I have met with several of the Presidents Secret Service detail members in Texas. As some of you know I am a former Marine. They had our lodging in a major hotel near the Presidents ranch (with-in  60 miles) so when they weren't on duty they stayed in the same hotel as us. They all spoke highly of the President and said he was a very genuine Man, and they liked working on his 1200 acre ranch. It gave them lots of room to play  with all of their security toys. Use your imagination, I cant really say any more about what they told me, but I was truly impressed with the small details a few agents disclosed to me. Any ways enjoy.

(From a Secret Service Agent)

I flew 4 Presidential support missions in the C-141 out of Dover AFB, DE,
Two for President Johnson and two for President Nixon.

Johnson was a first class jerk and on the two occasions I flew for him,
If the Secret Service and their Liaison in the Pentagon hadn't
Intervened, we would have had to stay on the airplane for hours while he
(Johnson) was off somewhere. Nixon never required that, and the four (4)
Stops we made with him he was cordial to the Secret Service and to my
Crew and me.

Denny Keast: We had a neighbor when I lived in DC who was part of the
Secret service presidential detail for many years. His stories of Kennedy
And Johnson were the same as those I heard from the guys who flew the
Presidents''s plane.

Yes, Kennedy did have Marilyn Monroe flown in for secret "dates," and LBJ
Was a typical Texas "good ole boy" womanizer. Nixon, Bush 41, and Carter
Never cheated on their wives. Clinton cheated, but couldn't match Kennedy
Or LBJ in style or variety.

The information below is accurate: The elder Bush and current president
Bush make it a point to thank and take care of the air crews who fly them
Around. When the president flies, there are several planes that also go
And carry the armored limo, another the security detail, plus

Usually a press aircraft. Both Bush's made it a point to stay home on

Holidays, so the Air Force and security people could have a day with
Their families.

Hillary Clinton was arrogant and orally abusive to her security detail.
She forbade her daughter, Chelsea, from exchanging pleasantries with
Them. Sometimes Chelsea, miffed at her mother's obvious conceit and mean
Spiritedness ignored her demands and exchanged pleasantries regardless,
But never in her mother's presence.

Chelsea really was a nice, kindhearted, and lovely young lady. The
Consensus opinion was that Chelsea loved her Mom but did not like her.
Hillary Clinton was continuously rude and abrasive to those who were
Charged to protect her life. Her security detail dutifully did their job,
As professionals should, but they all loathed her and wanted to be on a
Different detail. Hillary Clinton was despised by the Secret Service as
a whole.

Former President Bill Clinton was much more amiable than his wife. Often
The Secret Service would cringe at the verbal attacks Hillary would use
Against her husband. They were embarrassed for his sake by the manner and
Frequency in which she verbally insulted him, sometimes in the presence
Of the Secret Service, and sometimes behind closed doors. Even behind
Closed doors Hillary Clinton would scream and holler so loudly that
Everyone could hear what she was saying.

Many felt sorry for President Clinton and most wondered why he tolerated
It instead of just divorcing his "attack dog" wife. It was crystal clear
That the Clinton's neither liked nor respected each other and this was
True long before the Monica Lewinsky scandal. Theirs was genuinely a
"Marriage of convenience."

Chelsea was much closer to her father than her mother, even after the
Lewinsky scandal, which hurt her gravely.

Bill Clinton did in fact have charisma, and occasionally would smile at
Or shake hands with his security detail. Still, he always displayed an
Obvious air of superiority towards them. His security detail uniformly
Believed him to be disingenuous, false, and that he did nothing without a
Motive that in some way would enhance his image and political career. He
Was polite, but not kind. They did not particularly like him and nobody
Trusted him.

Al Gore was the male version of Hillary Clinton. They were friendlier
Toward each other than either of them was towards former President
Clinton. They were not intimate, so please don't read that in. They were
Very close in a political way.

Tipper Gore was generally nice and pleasant. She initially liked Hillary
But soon after the election she had her "pegged" and no longer liked her
Or associated with her except for events that were politically
Obligatory.

Al Gore was far more left wing than Bill Clinton. Al Gore resented Bill
Clinton and thought he was too "centrist." He despised all Republicans.
His hatred was bitter and this was long before he announced for the
Presidency. This hatred was something that he and Hillary had in common.
They often said as much, even in the presence of their security detail.
Neither of them trusted Bill Clinton and, the Secret Service opined,
Neither of them even liked Bill Clinton.

Bill Clinton did have some good qualities, whereas Al Gore and Hillary
Had none, in the view of their security details. Al Gore, like Hillary,
was very rude and arrogant toward his security detail. He was extremely
unappreciative and would not hesitate to scold them in the presence of
their peers for minor details over which they had no control.

Al Gore also looked down on them, as they finally observed and learned
certainty on one occasion. Al got angry at his offspring and pointed
at his security detail and said, "Do you want to grow up and be like
them?" Word of this insult by the former Vice-President quickly spread
and he became as disliked by the Secret Service as Hillary. Most of them
prayed that Al Gore would not be elected President, and they really did
have private celebrations in a few of their homes after President Bush
won. This was not necessarily to celebrate President Bush's election, but
to celebrate Al Gore's defeat.

Everyone in the Secret Service wants to be on First Lady Laura Bush's
detail. Without exception, they concede that she is perhaps the nicest
and most kind person they have ever had the privilege of serving. Where
Hillary patently refused to allow her picture to be taken with her
security detail, Laura Bush doesn't even have to be asked, she offers.
She doesn't just shake their hand and say, "Thank you." Very often, she
will give members of her detail a kindhearted hug to express her
appreciation. There is nothing false about her. This is her genuine
nature. Her security detail considers her to be a "breath of fresh air."

They joke that comparing Laura Bush with Hillary Clinton is like
comparing "Mother Teresa" with the "Wicked Witch of the North." Likewise,
the Secret Service considers President Bush to be a gem of a man to work
for. He always treats them with genuine respect and he always trusts and
listens to their expert advice. They really like the Crawford, Texas
detail. Every time the president goes to Crawford he has a Bar-B-Q for
his security detail and he helps serve their meals. He sits with them,
eats with them, and talks with them. He knows each of them by their first
name, and calls them by their first name as a show of affection. He
always asks about their family, the names of which he always remembers.
They believe that he is deeply and genuinely appreciative of their
service. They could not like, love, or respect anyone more than President
Bush. Most of them did not know they would feel this way, until they had
an opportunity to work for him and learn that his manner was genuine and
consistent. It has never changed since he began his Presidency. He always
treats them with the utmost respect, kindness, and compassion.


Please pass this on. It is important for Americans to have a true inside
understanding of their President.
BN
smells like wee wee
+159|7195
sounds like a load of old bollocks to me.

Hillary = Bad
Bush = Good
Dont vote for her
zeidmaan
Member
+234|6842|Vienna

democrats = bad, unfrendly assholes
republicans = people persons, mates
Mitch
16 more years
+877|6952|South Florida

zeidmaan wrote:

democrats = bad, unfrendly assholes
republicans = people persons, mates
fucking beautifly put! I wouldve said it myself but i would be copying you!!!
15 more years! 15 more years!
ghettoperson
Member
+1,943|7076

I do not for one second believe a word of that.
SoC./Omega
Member
+122|6968|Omaha, Nebraska!
sounds right zeid

well, i wont be an ass this time...but this was an interesting thing to read.
SgtHeihn
Should have ducked
+394|6914|Ham Lake, MN (Fucking Cold)
I have heard this before about Clinton, One of my team leaders was on the Yankee White detail at Camp David. He also said Chelsea was fooling around with one of the Marines on the detail and he got transfered real quick. Bill was nice to the Marines, he would drink scotch with them sometimes
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|7028|132 and Bush

ghettoperson wrote:

I do not for one second believe a word of that.
I would neither deny or accept it. There is no way of confirming it. So I would throw it into my spam box..lol.
Xbone Stormsurgezz
ghettoperson
Member
+1,943|7076

Kmarion wrote:

ghettoperson wrote:

I do not for one second believe a word of that.
I would neither deny or accept it. There is no way of confirming it. So I would throw it into my spam box..lol.
That is true, however it sounds far too much like Repubs = good, Dems = bad.
SgtHeihn
Should have ducked
+394|6914|Ham Lake, MN (Fucking Cold)

ghettoperson wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

ghettoperson wrote:

I do not for one second believe a word of that.
I would neither deny or accept it. There is no way of confirming it. So I would throw it into my spam box..lol.
That is true, however it sounds far too much like Repubs = good, Dems = bad.
Yeah, but one thing.... I haven't heard of too many Republican Presednts fooling around on their wives, so who knows. I have heard some crazy things about the White House
bootsy
Banned
+9|6713
too long, clicked off
Mitch
16 more years
+877|6952|South Florida

ghettoperson wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

ghettoperson wrote:

I do not for one second believe a word of that.
I would neither deny or accept it. There is no way of confirming it. So I would throw it into my spam box..lol.
That is true, however it sounds far too much like Repubs = good, Dems = bad.
Well, its just stating the truth.
Republicans: Mild mannered, kind, helpfull, insightfull, intellegent, forgiving
Democrats: Ignorant, mostly close-minded, They always have to pussify everything, such as Christmas decorations offending someone, banning tag/running games on school playgrounds cause of fear a child might bruse a leg.

Last edited by Dezerteagal5 (2007-02-20 14:18:33)

15 more years! 15 more years!
zeidmaan
Member
+234|6842|Vienna

Kmarion wrote:

ghettoperson wrote:

I do not for one second believe a word of that.
I would neither deny or accept it. There is no way of confirming it. So I would throw it into my spam box..lol.
His mom sent it to him... how can he throw it away

ps. I think its a pile of amateur propagandist bullshit (I was just summarising)
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|7028|132 and Bush

zeidmaan wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

ghettoperson wrote:

I do not for one second believe a word of that.
I would neither deny or accept it. There is no way of confirming it. So I would throw it into my spam box..lol.
His mom sent it to him... how can he throw it away

ps. I think its a pile of amateur propagandist bullshit (I was just summarising)
My mom is my number one spammer..lol
I don't open half the chainmail crap she sends... I'm sorry momma, I never meant to hurt you.
Xbone Stormsurgezz
fadedsteve
GOP Sympathizer
+266|6918|Menlo Park, CA
I have heard this too!!

Bill Clinton is a guy most of the secret service and staffs liked, they thought Gore was a douche. . .

Hillary is just a flat out cunt wherever and whenever! Rude, mean, abnoxious, self centered bitch. . .

Both Bush's are generally like by all their staffs as well, they are genuinely nice people. I have personally meet George H. W. Bush and he couldnt have been nicer too me (maybe cause he knew I was a Republican lol) havent meet George W. yet. . .

I also have meet John Kerry, and he was really cool, even though I disagree with his politics completely.  I meet him in 2000 before he ran for president, he was at Stanford speaking. I happen to talk with him after he spoke at a restaurant bar. Really tall guy, I couldnt believe it! He was very friendly and we talked baseball (he is a huge Red Sox fan btw) and a little politics. He seemed to like my girlfriend who I was with at the time(she is a democrat) they tried to crack a few jokes at my expense.

I still voted for George Bush lol!

Last edited by fadedsteve (2007-02-20 15:03:32)

BN
smells like wee wee
+159|7195

Dezerteagal5 wrote:

Republicans: Mild mannered, kind, helpfull, insightfull, intellegent, forgivin.
This is for debate and serious talk please. no jokes.
fadedsteve
GOP Sympathizer
+266|6918|Menlo Park, CA

BN wrote:

Dezerteagal5 wrote:

Republicans: Mild mannered, kind, helpfull, insightfull, intellegent, forgivin.
This is for debate and serious talk please. no jokes.
Same could be said for the Democrats pal. . . . They are the real joke!
https://i16.tinypic.com/29lbi2u.jpghttps://i9.tinypic.com/44qmsjl.jpg

Last edited by fadedsteve (2007-02-20 15:08:37)

m3thod
All kiiiiiiiiinds of gainz
+2,197|7098|UK
What a load of shit.
Blackbelts are just whitebelts who have never quit.
Mr.Casual
p-n*|3eergogglz
+136|6936|Minnesota eh
What a load of truth.
BN
smells like wee wee
+159|7195

fadedsteve wrote:

BN wrote:

Dezerteagal5 wrote:

Republicans: Mild mannered, kind, helpfull, insightfull, intellegent, forgivin.
This is for debate and serious talk please. no jokes.
Same could be said for the Democrats pal. . . . They are the real joke!
http://i16.tinypic.com/29lbi2u.jpghttp://i9.tinypic.com/44qmsjl.jpg
Yes, they are a joke too

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