lowing
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CameronPoe wrote:

Murderers.
Cameronpoe. I agree 100%. Thank you.
paranoid101
Ambitious but Rubbish
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Human Nature
misconfiguration
GURU
+86|6823|Indianapolis, IN
People like you that ask stupid questions.

Don't tell me that people in the U.K don't get stabbed to death or beat to death at that. Hell the Irish are notorious for their Molotov cocktails.
Major_Spittle
Banned
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CameronPoe wrote:

Murderers.
I tried to rearrange the letters to spell "Republicans" but I couldn't.  What's up Cameron, if that is infact your real name....
Major_Spittle
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misconfiguration wrote:

People like you that ask stupid questions.

Don't tell me that people in the U.K don't get stabbed to death or beat to death at that. Hell the Irish are notorious for their Molotov cocktails.
They put an olive and a tiny umbrella in 'em.
ATG
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Varegg wrote:

CameronPoe wrote:

Murderers.
Stupid Americans !
He was a muslim immigrant from Bosnia you snorkbrain.
Varegg
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ATG wrote:

Varegg wrote:

CameronPoe wrote:

Murderers.
Stupid Americans !
He was a muslim immigrant from Bosnia you snorkbrain.
Oh snap, did i miss something ?

Lets look at the quote again shall we ?

PureFodder wrote:

The USA has an abnormally high homicide rate for a western country. If guns aren't to blame as so many people claim, what is?
Where in the original post did the Bosnian immigrant hide if i may ask ?

Last edited by Varegg (2007-02-16 12:41:21)

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DUnlimited
got any popo lolo intersting?
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k30dxedle wrote:

If I really wanted to be a wiseass I'd say bullets.
+1 for stupid humour
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ts-pulsar
Member
+54|6930
A complete and utter lack of values.

Have too many kids being raised by non-existent parents, so they grow up with no values, and it's not hard to jump to crime with a mentality like that.

I know it sounds cliche, but I think that's one of the biggest problems in this country, that and the huge methamphetamine problem, I swear about 80% of the crime I read about (I only use the net and papers) seem to be related to methamphetamine use.
Anclerson
Member
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It's our culture, or lack there of. A country that isn't dominated by one culture is innately doomed. Human beings thrive in societies in which they share a common culture (i.e. customs, ethnicity, history, etc.). For thousands of years, humans have evolved in small communities of similar genetic makeup that had common beliefs/traditions. That's what's most natural/healthy for us both psychologically and sociologically. I'm not saying diversity is bad, but it should be limited.  I'm a racialist not a racist and there is a difference!  There is a reason that non-Japanese people cannot become citizens in Japan, and Japan both as a country and as a people will last longer on this earth because of it. There should always be a dominant ethnicity/culture on which a nation is grounded if you want a strong healthy culture (Don't you think the situation in Iraq would be going a little better if the country was all Sunnis or all Shiites).   America is the antithesis to this. America is all about the individual. There is no dominant  culture.  Sure it seems great to ignore our differences and all exist harmoniously, but that's idealistic and doesn't always work out so great in reality. There is no unified whole in this country. Everyone individually strives for success (hence the American dream) without any true sense of patriotism.  Our media for example cares about it's ratings and money, not what kind of effect it will have on the population.  This type of society creates the type of psychological complexes in its people that leads to such problems as higher crime rates.   We have few loyalties to each other because we have no unified sense of being other than the fact that we share the same language and laws (pretty superficial).  It's an "everyman for himself" type of thing.  However as bad as valuing the individual above all else is for a country's cultural well-being, it is the most economically efficient country (hence why America  has such a powerful economy and why Communism innately fails). America is arguably the greatest nation on this Earth because of our economy. We depend upon it.  Without our economy, we are nothing.
PureFodder
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ATG wrote:

Might I suggest reading through this topic as it's basically the same thing?
http://forums.bf2s.com/viewtopic.php?id=63886
That topic is about whether guns are to blame. This topic is about everything else that can be blamed.

Not seeing many answers so far....
PureFodder
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Varegg wrote:

PureFodder wrote:

The USA has an abnormally high homicide rate for a western country. If guns aren't to blame as so many people claim, what is?
Where in the original post did the Bosnian immigrant hide if i may ask ?
Erm, are you implying that a single Bosnian immigrant is responsible for for the last few dacades of abnormally high homicide in the US. If you are then I suggest someone should catch the guy.
usmarine2007
Banned
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Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6832|North Carolina

PureFodder wrote:

The USA has an abnormally high homicide rate for a western country. If guns aren't to blame as so many people claim, what is?
We have a violent culture.  Just take a look at how eager so many Americans are for engaging in war.
Poseidon
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CameronPoe wrote:

PureFodder wrote:

The USA has an abnormally high homicide rate for a western country. If guns aren't to blame as so many people claim, what is?
The Democrat Party. They're to blame for everything.
This is one of the greatest posts I've seen and it seriously underlines what a lot of people think in america when they want to blame someone...say having the User Title "Liberals Fail"...

But anyways.

I think it's got to do with the overall viewpoint of some people. Like people said, "shoot first, ask questions later."
Varegg
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PureFodder wrote:

Varegg wrote:

PureFodder wrote:

The USA has an abnormally high homicide rate for a western country. If guns aren't to blame as so many people claim, what is?
Where in the original post did the Bosnian immigrant hide if i may ask ?
Erm, are you implying that a single Bosnian immigrant is responsible for for the last few dacades of abnormally high homicide in the US. If you are then I suggest someone should catch the guy.
If you read the hole post my answer was directed at ATG and not your post in particular, but hey why not blame american gun nuts on Bosnia, i can live with that
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Kmar
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Yes the numbers are truly horrifying..

Murders with firearms (per capita) [/list]
[*]United States:       0.0279271 per 1,000 people
[*]Ireland:                  0.00298805 per 1,000 people
[*]Australia:                  0.00293678 per 1,000 people 
[*]United Kingdom:       0.00102579 per 1,000 people 
[/list]

Not really the epidemic the news might make your believe. Keep the odds in perspective.

If you want to see a real problem try looking at South Africa where it is getting close to 1 out of 1,000
South Africa:       0.719782 per 1,000 people

Americans should be more concerned with the 500,000 people with cancer. 200,000 die each year from the treatable/preventable kind. It amazes me how we lose focus on the obvious problems because the news media chooses to spend more time on the random actions of a lunatic.
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Bubbalo
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+541|6988

ATG wrote:

Might I suggest reading through this topic as it's basically the same thing?
http://forums.bf2s.com/viewtopic.php?id=63886
Yeah, people seem to be big on posting topic after topic about the same issue.
ATG
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Varegg wrote:

PureFodder wrote:

Varegg wrote:

Where in the original post did the Bosnian immigrant hide if i may ask ?
Erm, are you implying that a single Bosnian immigrant is responsible for for the last few dacades of abnormally high homicide in the US. If you are then I suggest someone should catch the guy.
If you read the hole post my answer was directed at ATG and not your post in particular, but hey why not blame american gun nuts on Bosnia, i can live with that
And you still fail to counter the fact that somebody automatically says " stupid American ", when in reality the killer is a Muslim immigrant who was traumatized  by violence in his home country. Who knows how many people he killed, or saw killed there.
Americans are generous people, and the people from Bosnia immigrated here during their war are just average people who happen to be Muslims.

I'm not saying the guy killed because he was a Muslim, why are you so quick and unapologetic to say " stupid Americans " when he aint even a goddamned American at all, except recently?

( restraining insults )

http://www.postindependent.com/article/ … E/70214004

Last edited by ATG (2007-02-17 22:27:11)

=MCHD= arush5268d
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Why are some people hung up on essentially the same topic?  We've been going through this for weeks now...

Jeez.
deeznutz1245
Connecticut: our chimps are stealin yo' faces.
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CameronPoe wrote:

Commie Killer wrote:

Well.....forgetting that this topic has been done 2135465486431424756135  times Id say that you should divide the population by the number of crimes. Then of course put into the factor that there are very many less destructive crimes, such as robberies because the criminal has to fear a store owner or a house owner with a 12 gauge pointed at the door.
Or else pack a bigger weapon, readily available at the nearest weaponry store...
Doesnt work like that Cam, the big bad weapons are the ones the good citizens cant get a hold of. And shouldnt want to for that matter.
Malloy must go
Vilham
Say wat!?
+580|7193|UK

Kmarion wrote:

Yes the numbers are truly horrifying..

Murders with firearms (per capita) [/list]
[*]United States:       0.0279271 per 1,000 people
[*]Ireland:                  0.00298805 per 1,000 people
[*]Australia:                  0.00293678 per 1,000 people 
[*]United Kingdom:       0.00102579 per 1,000 people 
[/list]

Not really the epidemic the news might make your believe. Keep the odds in perspective.

If you want to see a real problem try looking at South Africa where it is getting close to 1 out of 1,000
South Africa:       0.719782 per 1,000 people

Americans should be more concerned with the 500,000 people with cancer. 200,000 die each year from the treatable/preventable kind. It amazes me how we lose focus on the obvious problems because the news media chooses to spend more time on the random actions of a lunatic.
You are completely right. I never argue about that, I only start arguing when people claim guns dont mean more homicides, the facts and figures just show that that is bullshit.
Bubbalo
The Lizzard
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Kmarion wrote:

Yes the numbers are truly horrifying..

Murders with firearms (per capita) [/list]
[*]United States:       0.0279271 per 1,000 people
[*]Ireland:                  0.00298805 per 1,000 people
[*]Australia:                  0.00293678 per 1,000 people 
[*]United Kingdom:       0.00102579 per 1,000 people 
[/list]

Not really the epidemic the news might make your believe. Keep the odds in perspective.

If you want to see a real problem try looking at South Africa where it is getting close to 1 out of 1,000
South Africa:       0.719782 per 1,000 people

Americans should be more concerned with the 500,000 people with cancer. 200,000 die each year from the treatable/preventable kind. It amazes me how we lose focus on the obvious problems because the news media chooses to spend more time on the random actions of a lunatic.
Ah...........
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6832|North Carolina

Kmarion wrote:

Yes the numbers are truly horrifying..

Murders with firearms (per capita) [/list]
[*]United States:       0.0279271 per 1,000 people
[*]Ireland:                  0.00298805 per 1,000 people
[*]Australia:                  0.00293678 per 1,000 people 
[*]United Kingdom:       0.00102579 per 1,000 people 
[/list]

Not really the epidemic the news might make your believe. Keep the odds in perspective.

If you want to see a real problem try looking at South Africa where it is getting close to 1 out of 1,000
South Africa:       0.719782 per 1,000 people

Americans should be more concerned with the 500,000 people with cancer. 200,000 die each year from the treatable/preventable kind. It amazes me how we lose focus on the obvious problems because the news media chooses to spend more time on the random actions of a lunatic.
Good points...  I think our fatty diets and lack of exercise are much bigger killers than guns or violence in general.
Varegg
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ATG wrote:

Varegg wrote:

PureFodder wrote:


Erm, are you implying that a single Bosnian immigrant is responsible for for the last few dacades of abnormally high homicide in the US. If you are then I suggest someone should catch the guy.
If you read the hole post my answer was directed at ATG and not your post in particular, but hey why not blame american gun nuts on Bosnia, i can live with that
And you still fail to counter the fact that somebody automatically says " stupid American ", when in reality the killer is a Muslim immigrant who was traumatized  by violence in his home country. Who knows how many people he killed, or saw killed there.
Americans are generous people, and the people from Bosnia immigrated here during their war are just average people who happen to be Muslims.

I'm not saying the guy killed because he was a Muslim, why are you so quick and unapologetic to say " stupid Americans " when he aint even a goddamned American at all, except recently?

( restraining insults )

http://www.postindependent.com/article/ … E/70214004
Damn it - just made a longer answer to this one but lost my connection

But the short version is and have always been i dont look at Americans in general to be stupid but as cameron was stating murderers was to blame i stated that the stupid part of the american population was to blame ..... cause i guess the smart ones would think about the consequenses before pulling the trigger.

And why is that exact phrase so much fuzz ? ..... dont you have stupid US citicens ? ... or is it low selfesteem that makes you think the rest of the world have this view of every American ?
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