BF2S Forums Nine held in beheading plot in UK

Jeeezzzzzzz here we go again. We do not have a Muslim Problem. We have a problem with a small group of extremists. I, like most people in the UK trust the security forces to keep us safe and again they have provin they are diligent. If these guys are guilty or not will come out in time.
Now please can you paranoid Americans just accept that the UK folks on this board are not going to engage in mass hysteria and
a. Give up our civil rights.
b. Polarize our sociality.
c. Drive young Muslims into the hands of the extremists, with the "you have a label anyway, might as well live it" mentality.

It shows the differences between our societies if these boards are a microcosm of the two populations. The UK folks on here are generally happy that a small group of Extremists are the threat and our security forces have it under control. Were as some US folks seam to want us to look at every UK Muslim as a potential terrorist and join in this mass hysteria witch hunt. It amazes me how much effort you put into assigning blame and looking into the past. Look present, were the threat is, look to the future and try to be positive.


I am a peaceful Irish Republican Living in Occupied Northern Ireland. Should every UK citizen look upon me as a potential terrorist?

Haha, do as we, the dutch do. Grab those who wish to hurt your country, put them in jail, but women beside them in jail = win!

Bubbalo wrote:

DesertFox423 wrote:

Vilham wrote:

Im basing this conclusion on the fact that your media cant stop talking about it and most some American on these forums talks about Muslims being terrorists.

Oh please.  If it isn't Muslims, then it's Iraq, which then turns into Muslims.

I tend to disagree with that statement

I love how a few criminals are arrested and suddenly the UK has a Muslim problem.  How many Christians are arrested for murder in the US?  Does the US have a Christian problem?

Besides which, your assertion that direct combat actions stop these kinds of things is demonstrably false: this was stopped by police work, not running around halfway around the world killing people.  If you were right, the police never would have had to arrest them.

Bubbalo wrote:

Besides which, your assertion that direct combat actions stop these kinds of things is demonstrably false: this was stopped by police work, not running around halfway around the world killing people.  If you were right, the police never would have had to arrest them.

+1

JahManRed wrote:

Jeeezzzzzzz here we go again. We do not have a Muslim Problem. We have a problem with a small group of extremists. I, like most people in the UK trust the security forces to keep us safe and again they have provin they are diligent. If these guys are guilty or not will come out in time.
Now please can you paranoid Americans just accept that the UK folks on this board are not going to engage in mass hysteria and
a. Give up our civil rights.
b. Polarize our sociality.
c. Drive young Muslims into the hands of the extremists, with the "you have a label anyway, might as well live it" mentality.

It shows the differences between our societies if these boards are a microcosm of the two populations. The UK folks on here are generally happy that a small group of Extremists are the threat and our security forces have it under control. Were as some US folks seam to want us to look at every UK Muslim as a potential terrorist and join in this mass hysteria witch hunt. It amazes me how much effort you put into assigning blame and looking into the past. Look present, were the threat is, look to the future and try to be positive.


I am a peaceful Irish Republican Living in Occupied Northern Ireland. Should every UK citizen look upon me as a potential terrorist?

You're quare craic Jahmanred - Oh how the times have change eh? Not very often you see a paragraph like that..

Last edited by IG-Calibre (2007-02-01 06:28:10)

IG-Calibre wrote:

JahManRed wrote:

Jeeezzzzzzz here we go again. We do not have a Muslim Problem. We have a problem with a small group of extremists. I, like most people in the UK trust the security forces to keep us safe and again they have provin they are diligent. If these guys are guilty or not will come out in time.
Now please can you paranoid Americans just accept that the UK folks on this board are not going to engage in mass hysteria and
a. Give up our civil rights.
b. Polarize our sociality.
c. Drive young Muslims into the hands of the extremists, with the "you have a label anyway, might as well live it" mentality.

It shows the differences between our societies if these boards are a microcosm of the two populations. The UK folks on here are generally happy that a small group of Extremists are the threat and our security forces have it under control. Were as some US folks seam to want us to look at every UK Muslim as a potential terrorist and join in this mass hysteria witch hunt. It amazes me how much effort you put into assigning blame and looking into the past. Look present, were the threat is, look to the future and try to be positive.


I am a peaceful Irish Republican Living in Occupied Northern Ireland. Should every UK citizen look upon me as a potential terrorist?

You're quare craic Jahmanred - Oh how the times have change eh? Not very often you see a paragraph like that..

lol yeah didnt notice that, not sure if he is just taking the piss with that paragraph now.

The IRA never killed in the name of Catholicism,


The IRA killed Protestants for being protestants, didn't they?

TPM-J45P3R- wrote:

I can tell you first hand, that a majority of muslims in this area are towards extremism. I'm not saying they are 'extremists' but they do sympathize with the ideals of jihad etc..

Out of interest how do you know this?

We've always had terror problems it's just that the flavour of the month is muslims and in the next few years it will be something else.

Bubbalo wrote:

I love how a few criminals are arrested and suddenly the UK has a Muslim problem.  How many Christians are arrested for murder in the US?  Does the US have a Christian problem?

Besides which, your assertion that direct combat actions stop these kinds of things is demonstrably false: this was stopped by police work, not running around halfway around the world killing people.  If you were right, the police never would have had to arrest them.

Few?? They are arrested all the time!! The UK DOES have an immigration problem, and that problem is over- immigration from middle eastern countries P E R I O D!

The USA have a Christian problem?. . . .cmon. . .the only radical christians are the ones who protest in front of abortion clinics etc. and those who do start trouble there, are swiftly arrested.  So no that analogy is wrong on your end.

My assertion of direct combat action is right on btw.  Whens the last time you have seen a terrorist state/organization come to the negotiation table and stop their actions. . . . . .(The IRA is alive and well in Ireland so they are not a good example).  It hasnt happend. . . .containing the problem (which hasnt worked) doesnt STOP the problem. . .

We had to go "half way around the world" to fight the Taliban/al-Qaeda, and from what we have seen those DIRECT COMBAT actions have led to a lot of foiled plots we otherwise wouldn't have known about. . . Not too mention the deaths/captures of individuals who we otherwise wouldnt have caught without taking the fight to them. . . .WHY DO YOU WANT TO GIVE THE TERRORISTS A BREAK?? It flat out boggles my mind. . .

Last edited by fadedsteve (2007-02-01 13:28:57)

Vilham wrote:

They are called criminals... they are treated as such. We catch criminals, you don't... end of.

Btw when are you going to wake up and realise nearly your whole country is paralysed with fear of Muslims.

Nobody is paralysed with fear of anything, they are pissed off, big difference. Everyone is sick to death of the ME. nobody fears them

lowing wrote:

Vilham wrote:

They are called criminals... they are treated as such. We catch criminals, you don't... end of.

Btw when are you going to wake up and realise nearly your whole country is paralysed with fear of Muslims.

Nobody is paralysed with fear of anything, they are pissed off, big difference. Everyone is sick to death of the ME. nobody fears them

I'm sick to death of goddamned septics interfering in my country's business.  Our intelligence services and police are doing their jobs and weeding out the radicals.  The mainstream muslims are condemning the criminal elements.  Everything's fine.

What's really pissing me off at the moment is that the youth of today is largely uncaring about people, property and proper behaviour.  That's the white youth.  All the asians and 2nd generation immigrants I see are well behaved.  They care about education and good behaviour.  White kids don't give a shit.