AchangelTyreal wrote:
I absolutely hate people who hear ONE debate or ONE speech and go, that's my man. Look the guy up FFS. Check his voting record (what record there is seeing as he JUST became a senator). I've looked the guy up and he seems legit, but damn, people who hear one debate or one speech and give him their vote, it's ridiculous. He is incredibley charismatic but his charisma isn't going to solve the problem that is Iraq (Yes I am assuming that we are still there in 2008) and his charisma isn't going to stop the majority of congress from just fundraising for their own future campaigns instead of working for a better America. Dean was charismatic to, but he lost out to Kerry...KERRY. The man is as charismatic as a snail. I just hope that if it comes down to Hilary and Obama, then he is as smart as he is charismatic, because there is no chance in HELL that I'm voting for Hilary.
from
http://www.ontheissues.org/Barack_Obama.htm this is where he apparently stands:
On Abortion:
Extend presumption of good faith to abortion protesters. (Oct 2006)
Pass the Stem Cell Research Bill. (Jun 2004)
Protect a woman's right to choose. (May 2004)
Supports Roe v. Wade. (Jul 1998)
Voted YES on $100M to reduce teen pregnancy by education & contraceptives. (Mar 2005)
On the Budget and Economy:
Bush's economic policies are not working. (May 2004)
Supports federal programs to protect rural economy. (May 2004)
Voted NO on $40B in reduced federal overall spending. (Dec 2005)
On Civil Rights:
Opposes gay marriage; supports civil union & gay equality. (Oct 2006)
Marriage not a human right; non-discrimination is. (Oct 2004)
African-Americans vote Democratic because of issue stances. (Jul 2004)
Forthright on racial issues and on his civil rights history. (Jul 2004)
Defend freedom and equality under law. (May 2004)
Politicians: don't use religion to insulate from criticism. (Apr 2004)
Supports affirmative action in colleges and government. (Jul 1998)
Include sexual orientation in anti-discrimination laws. (Jul 1998)
Miscegenation a felony in 1960 when Obamas practiced it. (Aug 1996)
The civil rights movement was a success. (Aug 1996)
Voted NO on recommending Constitutional ban on flag desecration. (Jun 2006)
Voted NO on constitutional ban of same-sex marriage. (Jun 2006)
On Corporations:
Tax incentives for corporate responsibility. (Jun 2004)
Close tax loopholes for US companies relocating abroad. (Jun 2004)
REAL USA Plan: Reward companies that create domestic jobs. (Jun 2004)
Voted YES on repealing tax subsidy for companies which move US jobs offshore. (Mar 2005)
Voted NO on reforming bankruptcy to include means-testing & restrictions. (Mar 2005)
On Crime:
Battles legislatively against the death penalty. (Jul 2004)
Battles legislatively against the death penalty. (Jul 2004)
Supports alternative sentencing and rehabilitation. (Jul 1998)
On Drugs:
Understand why youngsters want to use drugs. (Aug 1996)
On Education:
Guarantee affordable life-long, top-notch education. (Jun 2006)
Sponsored legislations that recruit and reward good teachers. (Sep 2004)
Provide decent funding and get rid of anti-intellectualism. (Jul 2004)
Address the growing achievement gap between students. (May 2004)
Will add 25,000 teachers in high-need areas. (May 2004)
Supports charter schools and private investment in schools. (Jul 1998)
Free public college for any student with B-average. (Jul 1998)
Voted YES on $52M for "21st century community learning centers". (Oct 2005)
Voted YES on $5B for grants to local educational agencies. (Oct 2005)
Voted YES on shifting $11B from corporate tax loopholes to education. (Mar 2005)
In other words, he hasn't been around long enough for the american people to know where he stands on any issue. I hate to say it, but he really is too new. We just don't know where he stands. And before you go quoting speeches at me, a poisition in a speech is NOT a real position. Ask Kerry. Put your vote where you mouth is.
