RoosterCantrell
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deeznutz1245 wrote:

Dennis Leary
you mean Bill Hicks....
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Ratzinger wrote:

KILLSWITCH wrote:

Ratzinger wrote:

Why is it that the only decent comedy from the USA is by minorities?

In Britain a lot of the best comedy comes from the upper classes eg College revues, but US comedy seems to be Jewish or Black.

Of course there are a few exceptions like the Family Guy, or back to Roseanne and Married with Children, but these seem to be few and far between.

Any reason?
I'd say most of the comedy in Britain comes from the working classes, eg Ricky Gervais

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFvqaS_7BZ4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKhhbnovpic

and Peter Kay

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CA0q_vkeoDA
Well, now perhaps, but for a long time the people I mentioned dominated British comedy, say 1970 - 1995ish...

People like Ian Frenais and Tim Brooke-Taylor are still writing.
I would say it still does as far as writing goes, look at "Borat" Sasha Baron Cohen educated @ Cambridge..
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Ratzinger wrote:

Why is it that the only decent comedy from the USA is by minorities?

In Britain a lot of the best comedy comes from the upper classes eg College revues, but US comedy seems to be Jewish or Black.

Of course there are a few exceptions like the Family Guy, or back to Roseanne and Married with Children, but these seem to be few and far between.

Any reason?
Because here in the states, minorities can get away with making jokes about other races.  White people get called racist if they joke about other races. 

Question answered.
Talon
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America is much more obsessed with racism than we (the UK) are. In comedy, anything goes. You should see Mock the Week:



Wait for the second joke in "Scenes we'd like to see," about 50 secs in, and 1 min 50 mins in.



Lots of Muslim ones in here.


In Britain, if its comedy, anything goes.

Last edited by Talon (2007-01-06 13:53:05)

KEN-JENNINGS
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RoosterCantrell wrote:

deeznutz1245 wrote:

Dennis Leary
you mean Bill Hicks....
QFT

This shouldn't be in D&ST.  You are stating your opinion as fact, which is an incredibly ignorant thing to do in my opinion.
Bertster7
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KILLSWITCH wrote:

Ratzinger wrote:

Why is it that the only decent comedy from the USA is by minorities?

In Britain a lot of the best comedy comes from the upper classes eg College revues, but US comedy seems to be Jewish or Black.

Of course there are a few exceptions like the Family Guy, or back to Roseanne and Married with Children, but these seem to be few and far between.

Any reason?
I'd say most of the comedy in Britain comes from the working classes, eg Ricky Gervais

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFvqaS_7BZ4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKhhbnovpic

and Peter Kay

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CA0q_vkeoDA
I wouldn't say that's true. What I would say is that there is an immense amount of diversity in British comedy. From working class comics like Peter Kay, to all the Cambridge footlights alumni seen in comedy.
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Bertster7 wrote:

KILLSWITCH wrote:

Ratzinger wrote:

Why is it that the only decent comedy from the USA is by minorities?

In Britain a lot of the best comedy comes from the upper classes eg College revues, but US comedy seems to be Jewish or Black.

Of course there are a few exceptions like the Family Guy, or back to Roseanne and Married with Children, but these seem to be few and far between.

Any reason?
I'd say most of the comedy in Britain comes from the working classes, eg Ricky Gervais

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFvqaS_7BZ4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKhhbnovpic

and Peter Kay

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CA0q_vkeoDA
I wouldn't say that's true. What I would say is that there is an immense amount of diversity in British comedy. From working class comics like Peter Kay, to all the Cambridge footlights alumni seen in comedy.
Which Is why I said later in the thread that a lot of the upper classes do a lot of writing for comedy shows, such as Richard Curtis, who alongside Rowan Atkinson , wrote a hell of a lot of the material that went into the ever popular sitcom 'Blackadder'.  Curtis had a very privileged childhood.
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KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

RoosterCantrell wrote:

deeznutz1245 wrote:

Dennis Leary
you mean Bill Hicks....
QFT

This shouldn't be in D&ST.  You are stating your opinion as fact, which is an incredibly ignorant thing to do in my opinion.
Do what? are you talking to me?  If so... I say

nah, I'm just calling out Leary on some of his rape of Hicks material.   debatable? yes. In Fact, I like Dennis Leary,  I was just summing up the idea that if you want to say Leary is a legendary commedian of sorts, his past has a few marks against it, which should be reviewed.  While I like Leary,  Bill Hicks was genious, and seemed to never given credit for it, much less robbed, again debatable.    Im not black balling Leary at all, I'm just pointing out faults in a very quick and vaguely explanatory manner.
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Ratzinger wrote:

Why is it that the only decent comedy from the USA is by minorities?
You haven't looked hard enough.
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KILLSWITCH wrote:

Ratzinger wrote:

Why is it that the only decent comedy from the USA is by minorities?

In Britain a lot of the best comedy comes from the upper classes eg College revues, but US comedy seems to be Jewish or Black.

Of course there are a few exceptions like the Family Guy, or back to Roseanne and Married with Children, but these seem to be few and far between.

Any reason?
I'd say most of the comedy in Britain comes from the working classes, eg Ricky Gervais

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFvqaS_7BZ4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKhhbnovpic

and Peter Kay

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CA0q_vkeoDA
After watching that first Gervais clip, it made me wonder if an American comedian could make a joke about wanking over watching a halocaust scene in Schindler's List considering the large Jewish population in the States.
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QuadDamage@U wrote:

http://www.jimgaffigan.com/

This is the funniest commedian I have seen in a long time (and he is white and nerdy).

*Hot pocket!*
My favorite comedian. The man is just funny although his acting gigs have been very poor. Especially those stupid Sierra Mist commercials.
deeznutz1245
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lowing wrote:

deeznutz1245 wrote:

Dennis Leary
ok there is one. but I bet he does not carry any minority following. Chris Rock, Dave Chapelle, etc....... all have a huge white audiance.
very, very true.
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RoosterCantrell wrote:

KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

RoosterCantrell wrote:


you mean Bill Hicks....
QFT

This shouldn't be in D&ST.  You are stating your opinion as fact, which is an incredibly ignorant thing to do in my opinion.
Do what? are you talking to me?  If so... I say

nah, I'm just calling out Leary on some of his rape of Hicks material.   debatable? yes. In Fact, I like Dennis Leary,  I was just summing up the idea that if you want to say Leary is a legendary commedian of sorts, his past has a few marks against it, which should be reviewed.  While I like Leary,  Bill Hicks was genious, and seemed to never given credit for it, much less robbed, again debatable.    Im not black balling Leary at all, I'm just pointing out faults in a very quick and vaguely explanatory manner.
Nah, I agree with you.  Hicks was original.  Leary stole most of his material from Hicks, including smoking cigs onstage and his delivery.  My response was to the OP, sorry it got confused.
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four more works: get the fuck out
Cheez
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Roseanne was a comedy? I thought it was a weight-loss infomercial or something...
My state was founded by Batman. Your opinion is invalid.
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Mason4Assassin444 wrote:

deeznutz1245 wrote:

Dane Cook
He's talking about comedians. Not no talent fags.
Ah c'mon man...  Dane Cook is good.  Granted, that movie he was in with Jessica Simpson was pretty lame.

Seriously though...  Good white American comedians...  George Carlin, Bill Maher, Dennis Miller (in the 90s, not now), Robin Williams, The Daily Show (Jon Stewart is the only Jewish one, I believe), Stephen Colbert, and Conan O'Brien.

Oh yeah, and even though I'm not into most of the Blue Collar comedian stuff, Bill Engvall is basically the redneck's thinking man (or vice versa).  Ron White has his moments as well.

EDIT: Oh yeah, and Steve Carrell is awesome...  lol

Last edited by Turquoise (2007-01-07 15:41:31)

Ratzinger
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Now, George Carlin I'll give ya, and I've always thought of Robin Williams as something else - look, the guy doesn't fit any categories, and even other comedians say they can't keep up with him (can't be just the coke, cos poor old Richard Pryor was good, but he couldn't touch Williams). He's in his own box.

I guess I didn't really mean minorities as such, more "not mainstream" type thing, like Fabulous Furry Freak Brothers...

What about the US's tragic effort at "The Office"? God, that was worse than their rip-off of "Man about the House".....

Last edited by Ratzinger (2007-01-07 22:49:06)

Turquoise
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Ratzinger wrote:

Now, George Carlin I'll give ya, and I've always thought of Robin Williams as something else - look, the guy doesn't fit any categories, and even other comedians say they can't keep up with him (can't be just the coke, cos poor old Richard Pryor was good, but he couldn't touch Williams). He's in his own box.

I guess I didn't really mean minorities as such, more "not mainstream" type thing, like Fabulous Furry Freak Brothers...

What about the US's tragic effort at "The Office"? God, that was worse than their rip-off of "Man about the House".....
I love Steve Carrell, but even I'll admit that I prefer the British version of "The Office."
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Cheez
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2 words:

Police Academy
My state was founded by Batman. Your opinion is invalid.
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Turquoise wrote:

Mason4Assassin444 wrote:

deeznutz1245 wrote:

Dane Cook
He's talking about comedians. Not no talent fags.
Ah c'mon man...  Dane Cook is good.  Granted, that movie he was in with Jessica Simpson was pretty lame.

Seriously though...  Good white American comedians...  George Carlin, Bill Maher, Dennis Miller (in the 90s, not now), Robin Williams, The Daily Show (Jon Stewart is the only Jewish one, I believe), Stephen Colbert, and Conan O'Brien.

Oh yeah, and even though I'm not into most of the Blue Collar comedian stuff, Bill Engvall is basically the redneck's thinking man (or vice versa).  Ron White has his moments as well.

EDIT: Oh yeah, and Steve Carrell is awesome...  lol
Bill Maher is jewish too.
Ratzinger
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Cheez wrote:

2 words:

Police Academy
I hope you're saying that's NOT funny.....
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Forget the rest, everytime I see this double-act I piss myself laughing.

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