I am a little surprised I didn't see a Pearl harbor thread in this section today (or did I miss it?). Anyway, this is the last year survivors of that day will visit Pearl harbor on the anniversary. Kind of sad actually, but they are pretty much all almost gone.
One of 'em sprung in Junk Drawer.
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Last edited by DesertFox423 (2006-12-07 19:29:47)
Ya missed it.
That belongs in the junk drawer? What the hell.
Lest. We. Forget.
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After todays events in D&ST, and now this, I'm starting to lose faith in these forums...usmarine2007 wrote:
That belongs in the junk drawer? What the hell.
Don't let Bubs shitty thread bum you out.
Good call Marine. Not a fucking word in the newspaper.
Good call Marine. Not a fucking word in the newspaper.
Nothing was even said in my HS today. Not a word. And today at the Islanders (hockey) game, they DID hold a moment of silence for pearl harbor, and a bunch of Montreal Canadien fans BOOED. Of course we all got back at them by booing the canadian national anthem, but it's still ridiculous, speaking they fought in WWII.
There was a good piece on the local evening news about the Arizona and the national evening news with Charley Gibson (surprisingly enough).
I saw it in the junk drawer section.(A day of infamy) or something like that.
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It's sad that it's the last year they're meeting. I had the chance to visit the memorial. Very odd. I was sort of detached emotionally, didn't know how to feel. Nobody was aloud to talk and we had about 5-10 minutes to walk around. Pretty crazy stuff. I was really hard to imagine that there were people entombed in the ship that I was standing above. Never been around death like that before. Hopefully, I won't have to again (in a bad way).
I don't really know anything about Pearl Harbor, except that the movie sucks
I agree there, they should have made the movie more about the heroic actions of those who gave their lives that day.Sh1fty2k5 wrote:
I don't really know anything about Pearl Harbor, except that the movie sucks
Did Churchill know though about the attack and deliberately not inform Roosevelt, or did they both infact know and say nothing to Galvanise support for active engagement in the war effort among the US population? I guess much like 9/11 there were conspiracy theorists even then..
Last edited by IG-Calibre (2006-12-08 07:13:33)
It's the way of things that as time passes increasingly few people were directly involved in the events and so the significance to the general population drops. Events like this tend to fall into one of two categories. Those that slowly fade out until most people couldn't even remember what day of the year they occured and those that have regular yearly rememberance/celebration.usmarine2007 wrote:
I am a little surprised I didn't see a Pearl harbor thread in this section today (or did I miss it?). Anyway, this is the last year survivors of that day will visit Pearl harbor on the anniversary. Kind of sad actually, but they are pretty much all almost gone.
Example in the UK, we remember the gunpowder plot every 5th November but ask anyone what day of the year the Civil war started/ended and they won't have a clue.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the American example would possibly be the war of independance which is remembered/celebrated to a much larger degree than the start/end of the US civil war.
Which Pearl Habour falls into I guess only time will tell.
the civil war is almost looked at as like an evil step child, no one really wants to own it.
the majority of americans know nothing of the civil war, except the result was to free slaves. there are no holidays to celebrate the begininning nor the end of hostilities between our countrymen.
i have been lucky enough to have taken my honeymoon on maui. i am a huge history freak so my wife and i flew over to Oahu for a day and take the pearl harbor and uss missouri tour. (the main reason for the oahu side trip is I have a great uncle that died on iwo for the marines. my dads side of the family are complete dicks and never claimed his body, or medals. so i went to take care of unfinished business. in the end i wound up leaving him buried in the Punch Bowl overlooking oahu with the brave men he fought and died with. it took some very long thinking and way too much time sitting next to a grave but thats where i would want to be if i were him.) let me tell you that i do not think that pearl harbor will slip into one of those holidays that no one remember. at least not in the next couple generations.
the majority of americans know nothing of the civil war, except the result was to free slaves. there are no holidays to celebrate the begininning nor the end of hostilities between our countrymen.
i have been lucky enough to have taken my honeymoon on maui. i am a huge history freak so my wife and i flew over to Oahu for a day and take the pearl harbor and uss missouri tour. (the main reason for the oahu side trip is I have a great uncle that died on iwo for the marines. my dads side of the family are complete dicks and never claimed his body, or medals. so i went to take care of unfinished business. in the end i wound up leaving him buried in the Punch Bowl overlooking oahu with the brave men he fought and died with. it took some very long thinking and way too much time sitting next to a grave but thats where i would want to be if i were him.) let me tell you that i do not think that pearl harbor will slip into one of those holidays that no one remember. at least not in the next couple generations.
I actually had my boy sit down and watch a sort of documentary on Pearl harbor, then explained to him how I remember it being taught to me in school. I told him it's important that we remember things like this, as it shaped the way we live today.usmarine2007 wrote:
I am a little surprised I didn't see a Pearl harbor thread in this section today (or did I miss it?). Anyway, this is the last year survivors of that day will visit Pearl harbor on the anniversary. Kind of sad actually, but they are pretty much all almost gone.
No Pearl harbor = Slower US involvment = Maybe no bomb dropped = No Arms Race
Who knows.
He certainly knew about Coventry and didn't warn the city.IG-Calibre wrote:
Did Churchill know though about the attack and deliberately not inform Roosevelt