lol, oh now i'm the soy industry? nice. and soy causes cancer? let me guess...cow milk cures cancer?Cheez wrote:
I am aware that milk can contribute to allergies, I'm not denying that. But if you knew you we're allergic to bees would you go throw a hive down your pants?
Nice. I see the soy industry is backing this. Understandable I guess, they'd do anything to sell their cancer drink.
Serge, my first link has the osteo finding in it.
Until my doctor who studied medicine and biology for 10 years tells me to stop drinking it, or the FDA bans it, I'll drink milk. I'm an avid milk drinker, been one for 15 years, and my health is fine.IRONCHEF wrote:
So funny how you clowns are such cowards that you are unable to believe truthful, sound advice..something that can save your life..because you're careless and afraid to learn something. That's cool. Just trying to stimulate some mature conversation here..something other than ISRAEL, BUSH, BEST COUNTRY, and other done-to-death topics.
Sorry for trying.
You're crazy, you think milk kills you, and everyones addicted to it.IRONCHEF wrote:
cookoo! welcome to crazytown!
But this one is from Harvard and the other is from...? I'm not saying you are right or wrong, I'm saying it hasn't been proved yet that soy or cow milk are good or bad. Both have benefits and risks. So, my advice here is drink Coke.IRONCHEF wrote:
Serge, my first link has the osteo finding in it.
YOU said it will kill you and that everyone is addicted to it, not me.Cheez wrote:
You're crazy, you think milk kills you, and everyones addicted to it.IRONCHEF wrote:
cookoo! welcome to crazytown!
As I said before, I'm from the farming district. We all about cows here. We even have backwater farmers who drink milk straight from the vat (tank - first place milk goes from the cow) because its free. Hear that? RAW MILK. They are not dead. They are alive and kicking. We have people round here that live until 80
Change your doggamm diet then.Stingray24 wrote:
I take vitamins for what my diet does not give me.
Huh? I'm saying milk will kill you now? Who the hell started this thread?IRONCHEF wrote:
YOU said it will kill you and that everyone is addicted to it, not me.Cheez wrote:
You're crazy, you think milk kills you, and everyones addicted to it.IRONCHEF wrote:
cookoo! welcome to crazytown!
As I said before, I'm from the farming district. We all about cows here. We even have backwater farmers who drink milk straight from the vat (tank - first place milk goes from the cow) because its free. Hear that? RAW MILK. They are not dead. They are alive and kicking. We have people round here that live until 80
And guess what, tobacco farmers are figuring out that their propaganda isn't working too and they're moving to different crops. Guess you and your neighbors better start getting some angus beef in there and get some edumacation!
Well, as vaguely as you've put it, yes, it is quite clear that soy milk is much better than cow milk. On that disputed topic of CAUSING osteoperosis, it's still to be firmly accepted, or not.sergeriver wrote:
But this one is from Harvard and the other is from...? I'm not saying you are right or wrong, I'm saying it hasn't been proved yet that soy or cow milk are good or bad. Both have benefits and risks. So, my advice here is drink Coke.IRONCHEF wrote:
Serge, my first link has the osteo finding in it.
Maybe you're right.IRONCHEF wrote:
Well, as vaguely as you've put it, yes, it is quite clear that soy milk is much better than cow milk. On that disputed topic of CAUSING osteoperosis, it's still to be firmly accepted, or not.sergeriver wrote:
But this one is from Harvard and the other is from...? I'm not saying you are right or wrong, I'm saying it hasn't been proved yet that soy or cow milk are good or bad. Both have benefits and risks. So, my advice here is drink Coke.IRONCHEF wrote:
Serge, my first link has the osteo finding in it.
It is a fact from unbiased studies that cow milk does in fact contribute to tons of sicknesses while you'd be hard pressed to find sicknesses attributed to soy milk. Look at the chinese..are they fat, slobbering, sick people? Are they dying of the same illnesses that we are? The majority of their diet (and the diets of other healthier nations) is soy. You can't really knock soy.
As for my personal experience, I can tell a world of difference between cow milk and the lack thereof. Same with raising kids with and without it. My two sons have never drinked cows milk...they have hardly been sick, they have no alergies yet, they didn't have snot running from their noses every day like my eldest child (who did have cow milk for a year or so). My wife and I can prove that not drinking cow milk lowered our cholesterol more than any study can.
It's just not a debate between the two products...soy simply owns in all aspects (if fortified with vitamin D..which is not that important if you see sunlight 5 minutes a day).
Actually, last time I checked, cats drink cow milk too.IRONCHEF wrote:
We're the only species that drinks milk from another species! Doesn't that seem strange?
I've been drinking cow's milk since i was 3 and I've hardly been sick. Not to mention the rest of my family drinks it, and nothing bad is happening to them. i have a milkshake for breakfast (after cereal, of course) everyday, and i have no allergies, no bad sicknesses, and my dad put everyone on Pro-Activ butter, which is supposed to decrease cholesterol absorption.IRONCHEF wrote:
As for my personal experience, I can tell a world of difference between cow milk and the lack thereof. Same with raising kids with and without it. My two sons have never drinked cows milk...they have hardly been sick, they have no allergies yet, they didn't have snot running from their noses every day like my eldest child (who did have cow milk for a year or so). My wife and I can prove that not drinking cow milk lowered our cholesterol more than any study can.
Well, cats drink the milk humans give them, but in the wildlife they don't drink cow milk.Paco_the_Insane wrote:
Actually, last time I checked, cats drink cow milk too.IRONCHEF wrote:
We're the only species that drinks milk from another species! Doesn't that seem strange?
HERSHEY'S FTW!!!ATG wrote:
I like milk, especially with Herseys chocolate suryp.
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i think it would be pretty freakin sweet if all the little kids had udders.Turquoise wrote:
Bovine growth hormones present in milk are far more concerning to me than milk itself. There's a good reason why many European nations don't allow the injection of bovine growth hormones into their cows. These hormones actually affect the growth stages of our children -- and not in a good way.