AWSMFOX
Banned
+405|6682|A W S M F O X

iMPaCT.uK wrote:

lol @ public cod4 plz just play scrims.

public = terrrrrrrraaaaaabad
Sorry we cant devote our lives to a game that isnt terribly amazing.
Mekstizzle
WALKER
+3,611|6839|London, England

nukchebi0 wrote:

Tis true.

Discuss.
No.

I was playing regular CoD the other day, and it was lame to say the least. 90% of the time I was shooting first and getting first hits but they jumped around/turned around and killed me. Or went behind cover and then popped out and killed me. In regular mode it's all about getting headshots, which is just random luck. In hardcore mode you don't need that. I pretty much only ever play Hardcore mode. Infact my first ever round of CoD4 was hardcore (unintentional, but still)
kylef
Gone
+1,352|6712|N. Ireland
It's only a luck based mode if don't know where to start shooting. I exactly where my crosshair is even though it isn't actually there, so for me it is just like any other round - I prefer it this way.

If you think it is luck based, you need to go back to playing non-hardcore servers and realize where your gun is pointing.
Microwave
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+515|6873|Loughborough Uni / Leeds, UK
It's all personal preference (obviously).


You don't need too many bullets to kill someone in standard.
And you don't kill someone too easily in hardcore.


They're just different.



Personally I prefer the more frantic and fast paced standard. Opposed to the more waiting around and dying very easily which happens in hardcore.
RDMC
Enemy Wheelbarrow Spotted..!!
+736|6783|Area 51

Mek-Izzle wrote:

nukchebi0 wrote:

Tis true.

Discuss.
No.

I was playing regular CoD the other day, and it was lame to say the least. 90% of the time I was shooting first and getting first hits but they jumped around/turned around and killed me. Or went behind cover and then popped out and killed me. In regular mode it's all about getting headshots, which is just random luck. In hardcore mode you don't need that. I pretty much only ever play Hardcore mode. Infact my first ever round of CoD4 was hardcore (unintentional, but still)
Mine too Got 3rd aswell, I lol'd. I pretty much sticked to playing Hardcore ever since.
Microwave
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+515|6873|Loughborough Uni / Leeds, UK

Mek-Izzle wrote:

nukchebi0 wrote:

Tis true.

Discuss.
No.

I was playing regular CoD the other day, and it was lame to say the least. 90% of the time I was shooting first and getting first hits but they jumped around/turned around and killed me. Or went behind cover and then popped out and killed me. [highlight]In regular mode it's all about getting headshots, which is just random luck.[/highlight] In hardcore mode you don't need that. I pretty much only ever play Hardcore mode. Infact my first ever round of CoD4 was hardcore (unintentional, but still)
How is getting headshots luck? That is defiantly a skill - aiming.



And also, if they jump around a kill you or go behind cover then kill, doesn't that just make them a better player?


And also, you make out that in regular you need a huge amount of bullets to kill someone, which simply isn't true.

You don't need to get a headshot, sure, it kills them in one shot (as it does in hardcore), but, it only takes serveral body shots to kill someone which is 1 or 2 short bursts (both on target) - not just 1 or 2 shots on target in hardcore.

If you look at it that way  ^ ....regular takes more skill as it were.

Last edited by james@alienware (2008-01-02 03:28:20)

Fenris_GreyClaw
Real Хорошо
+826|6738|Adelaide, South Australia

james@alienware wrote:

How is getting headshots luck? That is defiantly a skill - aiming.
He's talking about the old CoD there, and that game is so full of random headshots (as is CoD2) that I can barely stand playing them any more.

james@alienware wrote:

And also, if they jump around a kill you or go behind cover then kill, doesn't that just make them a better player?
That happens in Hardcore too, you know...

james@alienware wrote:

And also, you make out that in regular you need a huge amount of bullets to kill someone, which simply isn't true.
Compared to Hardcore, it is.

james@alienware wrote:

You don't need to get a headshot, sure, it kills them in one shot (as it does in hardcore), but, it only takes serveral body shots to kill someone which is 1 or 2 short bursts (both on target) - not just 1 shot on target in hardcore.
Bullshit. I've had to double headshot a ton of people.

james@alienware wrote:

If you look at it that way  ^ ....regular takes more skill as it were.
All regular takes is an Assault Rifle + Stopping Power. Hardcore evens the field.
Microwave
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+515|6873|Loughborough Uni / Leeds, UK

Fenris_GreyClaw wrote:

james@alienware wrote:

And also, if they jump around a kill you or go behind cover then kill, doesn't that just make them a better player?
That happens in Hardcore too, you know...
I know, of course... but he mentioned that as it was a negative point of playing regular.


Fenris_GreyClaw wrote:

james@alienware wrote:

You don't need to get a headshot, sure, it kills them in one shot (as it does in hardcore), but, it only takes serveral body shots to kill someone which is 1 or 2 short bursts (both on target) - not just 1 shot on target in hardcore.
Bullshit. I've had to double headshot a ton of people.
Fair enough, but with all the guns besides I think the uzi, skorpion, P90 and the pistols (I may have missed one) it's a one shot headshot. It defiantly is for all the assault rifles anyway.




I personally don't think either mode takes more skill, they're both totally different styles of play.

Last edited by james@alienware (2008-01-02 03:41:49)

UK|Hooligan
Seriously, fuck off.
+103|6907|"The Empire"

nukchebi0 wrote:

Tis true.

Discuss.
Then i take it your by your own admission your only lucky when you play and have no skill.

HC mode is about being sensible, needing better use of perks to not get killed, and not who see's who first gets the kill. As if that's what you think i would be wasting my time even trying to explain it to you. So by the sounds of it your best just sticking to standard mode.
Fenris_GreyClaw
Real Хорошо
+826|6738|Adelaide, South Australia

james@alienware wrote:

I personally don't think either mode takes more skill, they're both totally different styles of play.
Same with me, I still prefer Hardcore though

Edited for James <3

Last edited by Fenris_GreyClaw (2008-01-02 03:50:11)

Microwave
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+515|6873|Loughborough Uni / Leeds, UK
^ Damn, you missed my edit now I look illiterate.



I'm going to have another attempt at hardcore tonight. Give it some more time, I'm sure it'll grow on me!
Fenris_GreyClaw
Real Хорошо
+826|6738|Adelaide, South Australia

james@alienware wrote:

^ Damn, you missed my edit now I look illiterate.



I'm going to have another attempt at hardcore tonight. Give it some more time, I'm sure it'll grow on me!
Don't play it too much though, otherwise you'll suck at Softcore. I've been playing HC exclusively for almost 3 days and tried going back to Softcore, only to fail miserably.
TheEternalPessimist
Wibble
+412|6838|Mhz

How to make Hardcore super easy for those having trouble,use the M14+Stopping Power - win - the end, one shot = one kill, I'd Dot sight it or use the Silencer for comedy effect, ACOG gimps it's otherwise near flawless accuracy.

Or if you want to play in a slightly less overpowered way, replace Stopping Power with Radar Jammer, use Dead Silence and pop a silencer on the M14, the ultimate in stealthy bastard technology, 2 shot kills though (I know, 2 whole bullets for a kill, it's terrible ).
Fenris_GreyClaw
Real Хорошо
+826|6738|Adelaide, South Australia

TheEternalPessimist wrote:

How to make Hardcore super easy for those having trouble,use the M14+Stopping Power - win - the end, one shot = one kill, I'd Dot sight it or use the Silencer for comedy effect, ACOG gimps it's otherwise near flawless accuracy.

Or if you want to play in a slightly less overpowered way, replace Stopping Power with Radar Jammer, use Dead Silence and pop a silencer on the M14, the ultimate in stealthy bastard technology, 2 shot kills though (I know, 2 whole bullets for a kill, it's terrible ).
G3 > M14 tbh. Less recoil.
TheEternalPessimist
Wibble
+412|6838|Mhz

Why is recoil an issue? You only fire once

The G3 is weaker too.

Last edited by TheEternalPessimist (2008-01-02 04:05:05)

Fenris_GreyClaw
Real Хорошо
+826|6738|Adelaide, South Australia

TheEternalPessimist wrote:

Why is recoil an issue? You only fire once
If you're using Dead Silence, you definitely need the second shot.

Edit: not by enough to matter in HC.

Last edited by Fenris_GreyClaw (2008-01-02 04:08:57)

TheEternalPessimist
Wibble
+412|6838|Mhz

If your playing right you've got all the time in the world. It's no Rambo kit.

If my new PC gear ever arrives I'll have a go at FRAPSing a few HC rounds, G3 just doesn't cut it at big range like the M14 does, it works, just not as well.
Fenris_GreyClaw
Real Хорошо
+826|6738|Adelaide, South Australia

TheEternalPessimist wrote:

If your playing right you've got all the time in the world. It's no Rambo kit.

If my new PC gear ever arrives I'll have a go at FRAPSing a few HC rounds, G3 just doesn't cut it at big range like the M14 does, it works, just not as well.
It works for me...
TheEternalPessimist
Wibble
+412|6838|Mhz

Didnt say it didn't work.
Fenris_GreyClaw
Real Хорошо
+826|6738|Adelaide, South Australia

It works better than the M14 for me.

Happy now?
TheEternalPessimist
Wibble
+412|6838|Mhz

I'm always happy
TimmmmaaaaH
Damn, I... had something for this
+725|6658|Brisbane, Australia

TheEternalPessimist wrote:

I'm always happy
yet eternally pessimistic...

Deagle in HC is awesome fun.
https://bf3s.com/sigs/5e6a35c97adb20771c7b713312c0307c23a7a36a.png
~Smokey~
Steve Irwin Reincarnate
+396|6756|Internetfitlerland

TimmmmaaaaH wrote:

TheEternalPessimist wrote:

I'm always happy
yet eternally pessimistic...

Deagle in HC is awesome fun.
Deagle with scroll wheel is funnerer
Fenris_GreyClaw
Real Хорошо
+826|6738|Adelaide, South Australia

~Smokey~ wrote:

TimmmmaaaaH wrote:

TheEternalPessimist wrote:

I'm always happy
yet eternally pessimistic...

Deagle in HC is awesome fun.
Deagle with scroll wheel is funnerer
TELL ME YOUR SECRET
TheEternalPessimist
Wibble
+412|6838|Mhz

TimmmmaaaaH wrote:

TheEternalPessimist wrote:

I'm always happy
yet eternally pessimistic...

Deagle in HC is awesome fun.
Pessimism, the expectation of nothing, I'm never dissapointed thus always happy

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