Hunter/Jumper
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Turquoise wrote:

With all the accusations flying around of the media being liberal, broadcasters are on the defensive about liberal bias, but conservative bias generally flies under the radar or is accepted without much protest.

For example, can you really state that the media is liberally biased after the fiasco that was the Monica Lewinsky affair?  .
The Very fact that you and others refer to this as " the Monica Lewinsky affair " is testament to the effect of a left bias.

It was actually " The Paula Jones Slander Lawsuit "

Monica Lewinsky was just going to be a witness against Bill Clinton for Slander, He Perjured himself, got away with it. The Media gave him a Pass and always had the people with double digit IQs thinking " it was about consensual sex " 
It was about  Perjury. 
Keep in mind even that was on Taxpayers Time in Our Public offices. Can you imagine if some bureaucrat was caught phukin his subordinate in the office of New York City Public Housing ? the clintons would have been the 1st to sign off on his hanging.

After all, it turns out it wasn't a " Huge Right Wing Conspiracy " was it ?
Bertster7
Confused Pothead
+1,101|6783|SE London

IG-Calibre wrote:

jord wrote:

Can someone recomend me an American BBC equivilent?
Yeah... BBC America. 

edit : actually I think the BBC affiliate news station in America is ABC - http://abcnews.go.com/


nukchebi0 wrote:

Does Britain have any major news network besides BBC?
ITN - Independent Television News http://itn.co.uk
What about Reuters?
PureFodder
Member
+225|6487

Hunter/Jumper wrote:

PureFodder wrote:

As far as I'm aware, FOX is the only news network to have actually gone to court to defend their right to lie, mislead and just plain make up their news.

http://www.projectcensored.org/publicat … 05/11.html

That's a good way to inspire confidence in your journalistic scruples.
journalistic scruples.

ever hear of " The New York Times " ?

Did Fox put explosives in car gas tanks to make the explode on camera or was that NBC ?

Did Dan Rather say he was reporting from Afghanistan when he was never actually there or was that Bill O'Reily ?

I forget, help me out. . . . oh and " Straight Up ! " lol


          dolt.
I wouldn't have said any of them had journalistic scruples either.
theelviscerator
Member
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Ace.O.Lamb wrote:

I often see it being attacked by TV shows or other people and i don't see what the deal is with the network. I dont have sky TV nor do i live in America so i don't watch the programmes. Could someone fill me in as to why its such a bad network?
they give both sides of a story not just the left wing commie version so naturally the left is constantly attacking them..

END OF STORY.
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6606|North Carolina

Hunter/Jumper wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

With all the accusations flying around of the media being liberal, broadcasters are on the defensive about liberal bias, but conservative bias generally flies under the radar or is accepted without much protest.

For example, can you really state that the media is liberally biased after the fiasco that was the Monica Lewinsky affair?  .
The Very fact that you and others refer to this as " the Monica Lewinsky affair " is testament to the effect of a left bias.

It was actually " The Paula Jones Slander Lawsuit "

Monica Lewinsky was just going to be a witness against Bill Clinton for Slander, He Perjured himself, got away with it. The Media gave him a Pass and always had the people with double digit IQs thinking " it was about consensual sex " 
It was about  Perjury. 
Keep in mind even that was on Taxpayers Time in Our Public offices. Can you imagine if some bureaucrat was caught phukin his subordinate in the office of New York City Public Housing ? the clintons would have been the 1st to sign off on his hanging.

After all, it turns out it wasn't a " Huge Right Wing Conspiracy " was it ?
Speaking of tax money, you don't seem to protest the use of billions in tax payer money to fund the investigation that everyone already knew the answer to.

The point is this.  Clinton was full of shit for lying under oath and cheating on his wife.  The Republicans were full of shit for spending so much time and taxpayer money on the investigation.

Don't mistake my argument as any reverence for Clinton.  I think he was worlds better than Bush, but that's kind of like saying, "I'd rather have someone who can read in office than the biggest idiot I could find."  After Bush, our standards were so lowered that any of the current candidates would be an improvement.  Clinton helped continue the decline of expectations before Bush even slithered into office though.

It's not a right wing conspiracy, it's a corporate toilet of lobbyism that drags us to the abyss of what we now know of as American politics.
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6606|North Carolina

theelviscerator wrote:

Ace.O.Lamb wrote:

I often see it being attacked by TV shows or other people and i don't see what the deal is with the network. I dont have sky TV nor do i live in America so i don't watch the programmes. Could someone fill me in as to why its such a bad network?
they give both sides of a story not just the left wing commie version so naturally the left is constantly attacking them..

END OF STORY.
Yes...  the President's side and the Vice President's side.
Spearhead
Gulf coast redneck hippy
+731|6891|Tampa Bay Florida
Here's my theory.

Bush = one of the worst presidents of all time.  Right wingers in denial still think he's one of the best ever.  So, when the "media" (all corporate owned news is absolute bullshit) reports anything at all, they perceive it as liberal bias.  Meanwhile, Fox + Friends cherrypicks facts and forgets to report important stuff. 

But honestly I dont think there's much of a conservative or liberal bias at all.  Fox News is definitely on the "conservative" side, and some others are "liberal", but none of them really do jack shit at the end of the day.  Its corporate owned media...

Last edited by Spearhead (2008-05-10 12:13:19)

FEOS
Bellicose Yankee Air Pirate
+1,182|6612|'Murka

Spearhead wrote:

Here's my theory.

Bush = one of the worst presidents of all time.  Right wingers in denial still think he's one of the best ever.  So, when the "media" (all corporate owned news is absolute bullshit) reports anything at all, they perceive it as liberal bias.  Meanwhile, Fox + Friends all media outlets cherrypicks facts and forgets to report important stuff.
Fixed.
“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein

Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
Dilbert_X
The X stands for
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All media put their slant on events, Fox does take this to an extreme, to the point of being propaganda.
Do any other US channels have so much 'opinion' and so little news?
Fuck Israel
FEOS
Bellicose Yankee Air Pirate
+1,182|6612|'Murka

Dilbert_X wrote:

All media put their slant on events, Fox does take this to an extreme, to the point of being propaganda.
Do any other US channels have so much 'opinion' and so little news?
You only say that because you disagree with the slant Fox puts on it and agree with the slant the others do.

And yes. CBS much?
“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein

Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
Dilbert_X
The X stands for
+1,813|6307|eXtreme to the maX
Partly, I also disagree with Fox because they are so wildly polarised in favour of one side.
I've never seen the kind of 'anti' items you see daily on Fox on any other channel.
I prefer news to be impartial, which most news stations pretty well are.

Fox is at one end of the spectrum, North Korean state tv at the other.
As long as we are aware of it there's no need to be too concerned, its the thickos who believe either who are the problem.
Fuck Israel
FEOS
Bellicose Yankee Air Pirate
+1,182|6612|'Murka

Dilbert_X wrote:

As long as we are aware of it there's no need to be too concerned, its the thickos who believe either who are the problem.
There's something we can agree upon.
“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein

Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6606|North Carolina
The problem is that "thickos" make up the majority of the population -- whether it's succumbing to conservative bias or liberal bias.  The fact that people are so easily manipulated is part of why Fox is so popular.  The people don't want to be informed -- they want to be fed selective information that validates their preconceptions.
Hunter/Jumper
Member
+117|6556

Turquoise wrote:

Hunter/Jumper wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

With all the accusations flying around of the media being liberal, broadcasters are on the defensive about liberal bias, but conservative bias generally flies under the radar or is accepted without much protest.

For example, can you really state that the media is liberally biased after the fiasco that was the Monica Lewinsky affair?  .
The Very fact that you and others refer to this as " the Monica Lewinsky affair " is testament to the effect of a left bias.

It was actually " The Paula Jones Slander Lawsuit "

Monica Lewinsky was just going to be a witness against Bill Clinton for Slander, He Perjured himself, got away with it. The Media gave him a Pass and always had the people with double digit IQs thinking " it was about consensual sex " 
It was about  Perjury. 
Keep in mind even that was on Taxpayers Time in Our Public offices. Can you imagine if some bureaucrat was caught phukin his subordinate in the office of New York City Public Housing ? the clintons would have been the 1st to sign off on his hanging.

After all, it turns out it wasn't a " Huge Right Wing Conspiracy " was it ?
Speaking of tax money, you don't seem to protest the use of billions in tax payer money to fund the investigation that everyone already knew the answer to..
I wasn't speaking of Tax money. and clinton was the one who wasted taxpayers money by slandering Paula Jones and refusing to tell the truth after he had been cornered, instead he suborned a potential damaging witness to his flaw of character. In fact his entire campaign was based on a lies.   

Turquoise wrote:

The point is this.  Clinton was full of shit for lying under oath and cheating on his wife..
Not the point at all, We didn't care what he did with hillary, we ( anyone with a brain ) knew that his happy marriage was a campaign sham as was his free health care ! he promised ( though it seems some suckers will still fall for that one.) he perjured and suborned a witness and miss-used his office strong arm Paula Jones because she mentioned she had dated him and he didn't like it.

Turquoise wrote:

The Republicans were full of shit for spending so much time and taxpayer money on the investigation..
Wrong again. bill clinton spent the money by lying ( and here we go again )

in what was " The Paula Jones Slander Lawsuit "

Monica Lewinsky was just going to be a witness against Bill Clinton for Slander, starting to sink in ?

Turquoise wrote:

Don't mistake my argument as any reverence for Clinton. .
I see no argument and no one has Reverence for clinton. I cant even bring myself to capitalize his name if you noticed and I never have.

Turquoise wrote:

I think he was worlds better than Bush,.
your delusion, He had the Reagan Tax plan un-altered, less 1/3 of our National expenses ( the Cold war had ended ) after a slight bump in the economy with all the defense industries and their employees taking a huge hit, the economy was fine under George H. Bush. the media blew it out of proportion, added the " Homeless Crisis " and propped up Ross Perot twice to get clinton in with a minority vote. Also decimated under clinton was our intelligence services, he also ignored 9 terror attacks in 8 years cumulating in 911

Turquoise wrote:

but that's kind of like saying, "I'd rather have someone who can read in office than the biggest idiot I could find."  After Bush, our standards were so lowered that any of the current candidates would be an improvement.
History will be his judge not bleating herds of sheep.

Turquoise wrote:

Clinton helped continue the decline of expectations before Bush even slithered into office though..
Bush was elected fairly Twice, sorry

Turquoise wrote:

It's not a right wing conspiracy, it's a corporate toilet of lobbyism that drags us to the abyss of what we now know of as American politics.
Lobbyist give voice to the people. the N.R.A. does my bidding with my blessing. You can spend all the money you want, everyone gets one vote. The media is biased.
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|6802|132 and Bush

Xbone Stormsurgezz
Hunter/Jumper
Member
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That Was Funny. ^
Spearhead
Gulf coast redneck hippy
+731|6891|Tampa Bay Florida

FEOS wrote:

Spearhead wrote:

Here's my theory.

Bush = one of the worst presidents of all time.  Right wingers in denial still think he's one of the best ever.  So, when the "media" (all corporate owned news is absolute bullshit) reports anything at all, they perceive it as liberal bias.  Meanwhile, Fox + Friends all media outlets cherrypicks facts and forgets to report important stuff.
Fixed.
I agree with that actually.  ty for the correction.
Hunter/Jumper
Member
+117|6556
baseless theroy, your entitled however.
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6606|North Carolina

Hunter/Jumper wrote:

Lobbyist give voice to the people. the N.R.A. does my bidding with my blessing. You can spend all the money you want, everyone gets one vote. The media is biased.
So, you don't think the loads of money that lobbyists use to bribe... er..  influence politicians with has any negative effect on the one man = one vote idea?  You really think voting has more of an effect on who gets elected than how much lobbyist support a candidate has?

Lobbyists essentially choose who gets to run for office before we even have any say in the matter.

It's kind of like the idea, "It's not the people who vote that count. It's the people who count the votes."

So, you can pretend it's all just a matter of the media being biased, but in the end, it goes beyond that.  The system itself is biased toward corporations, who, in turn, own the media.
Laika
Member
+75|6145
What about this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSAOQuLxSdY

I dunno I just saw it on teh youtube.

PS: Somebody imbed that for me please?

Last edited by Ataronchronon (2008-05-14 16:41:02)

tuckergustav
...
+1,590|6115|...

Hunter/Jumper wrote:

Bush was elected fairly Twice, sorry
debatable...but thats beside the point...sorry
...
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|6802|132 and Bush

Kmarion wrote:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=UOPNaeUgLBE
Oh shit , I laughed.. The Remix
Instant classic.^^
Xbone Stormsurgezz
Deadmonkiefart
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You should try the Searh button some time.

Last edited by Deadmonkiefart (2008-05-14 18:46:50)

Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|6802|132 and Bush

Right: http://forums.bf2s.com/viewtopic.php?pi … 5#p1508355

(It's one of those hot topics that is destined to resurface every few months.)
Xbone Stormsurgezz
Deadmonkiefart
Floccinaucinihilipilificator
+177|6907

Kmarion wrote:

Right: http://forums.bf2s.com/viewtopic.php?pi … 5#p1508355

(It's one of those hot topics that is destined to resurface every few months.)
Why wasn't mine included in your list?  It was the longest one after all.

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