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Marlboroman82 wrote:

Bernadictus wrote:

I would recommend waiting for the new release of Office 2008, which is due soon, as I recall.

whenever they finish leopard, which was delayed till october

Bernadictus wrote:

trippy982 wrote:

Where can I get a cheap external dual layer DVD burner that is less than $100.   For PC I can find one as low as $65, but for a Mac the cheapest I've seen is that Sony one that sells for $100 at the least.  Forget about ones with Lightscribe, I don't even think there is one for Macs...

Mac hardware is more expensive, indeed, but that is because all hardware that goes into a Mac has to be certified by Apple for compatibility.

But you can always buy an External burner from any brand and hook that up to the FireWire800 or USB2 ports, externally you are not bound to the certificate.

Marlboroman82 wrote:

i noticed that to about the drop down boxes. i have just gotten used to it. to close a tab just hit command w. will close any window your currently viewing.

what kind of mac do you have? newer ones should accept any thing you plug up to it.

majorassult wrote:

trippy982 wrote:

How come my questions didn't get answered?

trippy982 wrote:

On a PC, if I wanted to delete a file quickly I just click on the file and press the Delete key.  If I want to delete it and not just put it in the Recycling Bin I hold Shift + Delete key.  What do I do with a Mac?

Also when I'm on a form, on a PC if I click on a tab and the next field is a drop down box, a PC will let me go to the drop down box and I could select something in the drop down box.  On a Mac, it skips the drop down field and goes to the next non-drop box field such as radio buttons or text field.  Using Firefox on both.  Also, seems like you can't close a new tab in Firefox Mac no more...

Where can I get a cheap external dual layer DVD burner that is less than $100.   For PC I can find one as low as $65, but for a Mac the cheapest I've seen is that Sony one that sells for $100 at the least.  Forget about ones with Lightscribe, I don't even think there is one for Macs...

xBlackPantherx wrote:

many pc items work on macs that say they wont...just try it

ghettoperson wrote:

xBlackPantherx wrote:

theDude5B wrote:

point 1: I would blame this on the fact there there are more manufacturers of Harddrives for PC's so more chances of things going wrong.
point 2: I would have to disagree here. If you are buying a pre-built PC from one of the big companies there should be nothing hard about getting it up and running.
point 3: Each to his own I think. PC for me is as easy as 1, 2, 3, to use.
point 4: PC laptops are well cheap these days although not too sure about the power issue.
point 5: debatable
point 6: depends how much you are willing to spend.
point 7: Just buy a PC.

I am just struggling to see why anyone would be able to argue that a MAC is better.

To the responder, dude5b:
1-thats seriously debatable, pc manufacturers are just lasy and think theyll get more money off of a cheaper, shttier product. also mac's have VERY little errors. on my bootcamp side, i get so frustrated because the pc has NO idea what the FUCK it is doing. i get many crashes on the pc side yet have only had ONE crash in my entire lifetime within all the macs i have used put together.
I would imagine that Apple use other peoples HDD's anyway, so they'll have exactly the same reliability as a 'PC HDD'. They're the same thing!

2-the steps to setting up a brand new mac is about 4 steps on-screen and takes roughly 2-5 mins.

Depends on what you consider 'setting up'. The same could be said for a PC.

3- Pc's are much less organized. if you tell me the name of any file u put on my computer, i can not only tell you where it is but ALSO the route in whichi you get there quite effectively

What? That depends on whether you put your files in logical places. If I save things all over the place on a Mac, you couldn't do it. That has nothing to do with the OS; it's to do with whether you bother organising things or not.

4- mac's are overall more powerfull and efficient. and for $500 you can get a 6x2x2 inch computer (no screen obvioslu but you can get one for 40$) that is core duo and that they are 'beefing up' to make it you entire home entertainment system including tv.

$599 actually, but anything with 512Mb ram is never going to be very impressive. You can get a PC that will do all that for that money, it just won't be really small, but frankly, who cares about size?

5-photoshop is VERY easy to use on mac. I made a decent photoshop, nothing special, on my first time trying.

That's not even worth looking at as an argument as to why they're good.

6- look at point #4 you can get this
for $599 and its VERY good. i have the older version on this, the not core duo one, and it still works fine and can run unreal tournament and halo fine.

As I said, meh. I wouldn't have one, too small to do anything with, and 512MB of RAM is hardly a lot for any serious use.

7-last but not least, stfu now. with the mac's having core duo pprocessers, i have TWO computers in one and i can run ANY program you shove at me right now fine. the 24 inch imac, which is also what i have, is such a great gaming computer, i can run ALL my games on HIGH

How exactly do you have two computers? Because of bootcamp? Believe it or not, but I can do all that, AND I only need one OS to do it. How's that for efficient?

and have had ping <20 if not <15

You pretty much summed up your knowledge of computers right there. Your ping is to do with your internet connection, not computer. Also, try an EU server, and I guaruntee that'll go up to more like 100.

Not trying to start an Anti-Apple war here, but I figured it'd be nice to clean up some of the shite that's floating around in this thread.

trippy982 wrote:

Well the questions that do get answered are the basic ones that always will be used for argument such as is Mac hard to use, Macs are so expensive, what games are supported by Macs, what hardware will work with a Mac, etc..

But when I ask a more deeper question about my personal experiances about it, they get neglected.

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Last edited by Marlboroman82 (2007-04-14 20:30:08)

BlackKoala wrote:

Did your penis get smaller when you opened the box?  (I've heard it happen before).

I kid.

On a more serious note, doesn't that single clicky mouse get annoying?

ghettoperson wrote:

Bernie, as you're deleting my supposedly offtopic or whatever posts, are you going to get rid of yours?

EDIT: I do have a question though, why is it Mac users think Steve Jobs is just so wonderful? Also, why must they tell everyone they have a Mac, it's like a penis extension or something.

PS. I am not trying to start an argument, I'm just curious as it seems to me that everyone that owns a Mac has the same mentality about them. I don't get it.

trippy982 wrote:

On a PC, if I wanted to delete a file quickly I just click on the file and press the Delete key.  If I want to delete it and not just put it in the Recycling Bin I hold Shift + Delete key.  What do I do with a Mac?

Using Firefox on both.  Also, seems like you can't close a new tab in Firefox Mac no more...

Where can I get a cheap external dual layer DVD burner that is less than $100.   For PC I can find one as low as $65, but for a Mac the cheapest I've seen is that Sony one that sells for $100 at the least.  Forget about ones with Lightscribe, I don't even think there is one for Macs..

Omnideath wrote:

well, i prefer pc's but i use both on a daily basis and have been thinking about getting a macbook. id like the black one, but would that be enough for games, or would i need to get a mac book pro?

mikeshw wrote:

Can either one of you, Marlboroman or Bernadictus, please recommend a Plist cleanup software, if there is such a thing. I think that is also important in getting the Mac to run smoothly. I got so much crap on my Library folder that I believe it is slowing down my machine.

edit: this is my pre-AppZapper days.. on my two year old G4 PBook.

Omnideath wrote:

12in? do you mean 13? im looking at this page of specs
based on that same page, would the cheapest 15in macbook pro work for games?