Wasnt that the Army that tried 11 times? And yeah, as usmarine mentioned, with the current civilian issue and rules of engagement, how can the military do what its supposed to do when people back home will complain and gripe about oh... oh my god, the marines just killed another man. its like... wtf... we cant kill um, but no one wants us to die either... well guess what... SOMEONE HAS TO! let the military do its freakin job and stop whining. and we can win against the real enemies... IF... IF... and IF... you let the military do its job without criticism about how it conducts training and how it conducts its operations. we have morals in the military too, so dont think we're all robots.
Hey, I am regular Marine infantry and I would like to demonstrate how well trained I am by stomping your guts out.Kukulcan wrote:
Hey americans , i don't know your military situation but i always heard stories about the ''first military power'' in the world and about how they can defeat every enemy.
Watching this video i was really surprised : i mean.... the USMC really couldn't capture the city of Fallujah aften 11 tries?? O_O
You should pay more attention to the training of the main infantry.. you can't win a war just with special forces. If you had such difficulties in iraq , how will you win a theorical war agains Iran or China??
Those are real enemies.. not the iraq.
Malloy must go
They obviously skipped over "Emotion Control" during all the gut stomping training.deeznutz1245 wrote:
Hey, I am regular Marine infantry and I would like to demonstrate how well trained I am by stomping your guts out.Kukulcan wrote:
Hey americans , i don't know your military situation but i always heard stories about the ''first military power'' in the world and about how they can defeat every enemy.
Watching this video i was really surprised : i mean.... the USMC really couldn't capture the city of Fallujah aften 11 tries?? O_O
You should pay more attention to the training of the main infantry.. you can't win a war just with special forces. If you had such difficulties in iraq , how will you win a theorical war agains Iran or China??
Those are real enemies.. not the iraq.
Hows the old saying go again? Temper to Tourniquet?
The guy is full of fucking shit. I've never heard of such a thing. I stopped watching it after he said "Expendable fucking youth." Apparently that guy does not know the fucking pride that comes with serving his service and country. I would bitch slap that mother fucker in a heart beat. USMC are the people who fucking clear the way for us ground troops. They deserve more than some going around making those videos. I also can't believe he put the Nazi shit with USMC, I just about died.................
- Jason S. Future MP.
Edit: spelling/grammer
- Jason S. Future MP.
Edit: spelling/grammer
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There is no emotional control training, that is for the Air Force while we attended trigger control training. Hey someone has to fight the battles in the streets and in the field. I just didnt think we would have to battle our own countrymen back home.Cougar wrote:
They obviously skipped over "Emotion Control" during all the gut stomping training.deeznutz1245 wrote:
Hey, I am regular Marine infantry and I would like to demonstrate how well trained I am by stomping your guts out.Kukulcan wrote:
Hey americans , i don't know your military situation but i always heard stories about the ''first military power'' in the world and about how they can defeat every enemy.
Watching this video i was really surprised : i mean.... the USMC really couldn't capture the city of Fallujah aften 11 tries?? O_O
You should pay more attention to the training of the main infantry.. you can't win a war just with special forces. If you had such difficulties in iraq , how will you win a theorical war agains Iran or China??
Those are real enemies.. not the iraq.
Hows the old saying go again? Temper to Tourniquet?
Malloy must go
YOURE all the brainwashed people he was talking about....willing to follow anything violent without any question....
None of you would know anything righteous if it hit you in the head.......
None of you would know anything righteous if it hit you in the head.......
??? I am not following. I am leading. Care to explain all of the violent gangbangers, drug dealers, theives, murderers, Hillary Clinton, rapists and others who are violent? Well gee, they werent in the Marines so cant possibly be violent! Being a Marine does not make you violent. Being a Marine and having civilians who are to pansy ass to defend their countrymens way of life, constantly tell you that you must be violent, makes you violent.Superglueman wrote:
YOURE all the brainwashed people he was talking about....willing to follow anything violent without any question....
None of you would know anything righteous if it hit you in the head.......
Malloy must go
Violence is the last thing they will use to get the job done. Who in the right fucking mind likes to kill people. No one. But, they do what they have to do to survive and get the job done. And you want to know another thing? The only reason you think that we are violent is caused you only probably watch the news.Superglueman wrote:
YOURE all the brainwashed people he was talking about....willing to follow anything violent without any question....
None of you would know anything righteous if it hit you in the head.......
Well, actually, I believe Army Rangers go through emotion control. You know, get pumped but don't get stupid, be able to turn it off like a switch.deeznutz1245 wrote:
There is no emotional control training, that is for the Air Force while we attended trigger control training. Hey someone has to fight the battles in the streets and in the field. I just didnt think we would have to battle our own countrymen back home.Cougar wrote:
They obviously skipped over "Emotion Control" during all the gut stomping training.deeznutz1245 wrote:
Hey, I am regular Marine infantry and I would like to demonstrate how well trained I am by stomping your guts out.
Hows the old saying go again? Temper to Tourniquet?
And not to sound like a dick (but I know I will), I'm not trying to "battle" you. I'm trying to explain the difference between being an idiot with no temper control and no common sense and being a logical and cool headed person.
Oh and BTW, I was in the USAF, and I went through extensive psych training for MP duty. It isn't that difficult.
lol....Told ya.Cougar wrote:
Oh and BTW, I was in the USAF, and I went through extensive psych training for MP duty.deeznutz1245 wrote:
There is no emotional control training, that is for the Air Force while we attended trigger control training.Cougar wrote:
They obviously skipped over "Emotion Control" during all the gut stomping training.
Hows the old saying go again? Temper to Tourniquet?
Malloy must go
Well that's not possible though.... you can't think of bombing a city still occupied by civilians. In these situation however , you should have the advantage of advanced weapons and tactics , which didn't result in the facts ( if it was gone this way )usmarine2007 wrote:
I will put it this way for you....Kukulcan wrote:
Watching this video i was really surprised : i mean.... the USMC really couldn't capture the city of Fallujah aften 11 tries?? O_O
They ran over Saddams army twice. Now, you cannot fight religious extremists and try to protect as many innocent lives at the same time. Have no doubt, if the full might and force of the Marines had been unleashed on Fallujah, it would be flattened.
Out of curiousity, any of you American military buffs know which US military unit can wear the 1st Marine Division patch?
For the record they can only wear it down on their fore-arms instead of their shoulders.
For the record they can only wear it down on their fore-arms instead of their shoulders.
Are you talking about the Guadalcanal patch, or the actual originals designed for Marines involved in the 4 major battles in the pacific during ww2?joewardog wrote:
Out of curiousity, any of you American military buffs know which US military unit can wear the 1st Marine Division patch?
For the record they can only wear it down on their fore-arms instead of their shoulders.
Malloy must go
Technically, both.
Considering the USMC got rid of all unit patches on the 24th of September, 1947, that would include all 4 of the known division patches created during World War II. However, currently there is a US military regiment that can officially still wear the patch, and more specifically it is the 1st Marine Division patch, which does have the name "Guadalcanal" going down the lengthwise part of the patch. For the record, this is because of the regiment's service in that named campaign.
I hope this clarifies things up a bit
Considering the USMC got rid of all unit patches on the 24th of September, 1947, that would include all 4 of the known division patches created during World War II. However, currently there is a US military regiment that can officially still wear the patch, and more specifically it is the 1st Marine Division patch, which does have the name "Guadalcanal" going down the lengthwise part of the patch. For the record, this is because of the regiment's service in that named campaign.
I hope this clarifies things up a bit
Just listened to the audio...kept an open mind till he mentioned how life started after the they got out of the service. The point that lost me was when he said they could have been making their first $50K. That gave me a clue to his priorities in life.
Commie has a point about keeping an open mind, but I couldn't glean much insight out of this guy. Commie, save the open minded line for a more worthy topic. This audio had maybe a sentence or 2 that was not just trying to badmouth the Marines for whatever reasons.
All you former or current marines and other service members...thanks.
Couger has a point about staying cool under fire. "Much easier to rip a mans throat out when your hands aren't shaking from rage." --LividBovine, US Navy 93-01
Commie has a point about keeping an open mind, but I couldn't glean much insight out of this guy. Commie, save the open minded line for a more worthy topic. This audio had maybe a sentence or 2 that was not just trying to badmouth the Marines for whatever reasons.
All you former or current marines and other service members...thanks.
Couger has a point about staying cool under fire. "Much easier to rip a mans throat out when your hands aren't shaking from rage." --LividBovine, US Navy 93-01
"The President does not have power under the Constitution to unilaterally authorize a military attack in a situation that does not involve stopping an actual or imminent threat to the nation" - Barack Obama (a freshman senator from Illinios)
It is the 24th or 25th Inf Div USAjoewardog wrote:
Technically, both.
Considering the USMC got rid of all unit patches on the 24th of September, 1947, that would include all 4 of the known division patches created during World War II. However, currently there is a US military regiment that can officially still wear the patch, and more specifically it is the 1st Marine Division patch, which does have the name "Guadalcanal" going down the lengthwise part of the patch. For the record, this is because of the regiment's service in that named campaign.
I hope this clarifies things up a bit
You're on the right track, it was the Army's 164th infantry regiment (North Dakota National Guard boys) that earned the privelege of wearing the division patch (the only known army regiment to do so).SgtHeihn wrote:
It is the 24th or 25th Inf Div USA
Also, these guys were known as the "164th Marines" and were the first to bring in the M-1 Garande to Guadalcanal (envy of the marines). I find it interesting how little is known of the army's involvement, mainly because reporters were attached to the marine units and the army was under a strict black out.
I hope you find this a bit informative.
"You have the luxury of not knowing what I know. And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, saves lives. You don't want the truth because deep down in places you don't talk about at parties, you want me on that wall, you need me on that wall. We use words like honor, code, loyalty. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent defending something. You use them as a punchline. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very freedom that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said thank you, and went on your way, Otherwise, I suggest you pick up a weapon, and stand a post."CommieChipmunk wrote:
If we could all just realize that killing does nothing but cause more killing, the world would be a much better place.
I had to use a good old Jack quote.
what a tosser
A quote? I can always count on usmarine2007 to post a you tube link and get his point across without typing a word.usmarine2007 wrote:
"You have the luxury of not knowing what I know. And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, saves lives. You don't want the truth because deep down in places you don't talk about at parties, you want me on that wall, you need me on that wall. We use words like honor, code, loyalty. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent defending something. You use them as a punchline. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very freedom that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said thank you, and went on your way, Otherwise, I suggest you pick up a weapon, and stand a post."CommieChipmunk wrote:
If we could all just realize that killing does nothing but cause more killing, the world would be a much better place.
I had to use a good old Jack quote.
Malloy must go
Edit: added>usmarine2007 wrote:
"You have the luxury of not knowing what I know. And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, saves lives. You don't want the truth because deep down in places you don't talk about at parties, you want me on that wall, you need me on that wall. We use words like honor, code, loyalty. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent defending something. You use them as a punchline. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very freedom that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said thank you, and went on your way, Otherwise, I suggest you pick up a weapon, and stand a post."CommieChipmunk wrote:
If we could all just realize that killing does nothing but cause more killing, the world would be a much better place.
I had to use a good old Jack quote.
That's all folks. Nothing else to see here. End of discussion.
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Sorry. Internet was running slow at work and took forever for youtube to load. Please accept my boot in your ass for your trouble.deeznutz1245 wrote:
A quote? I can always count on usmarine2007 to post a you tube link and get his point across without typing a word.
Semper Fi
boot accepted
Malloy must go
That video combined with some of these posts just about made me pop from the bloodpressure.
Seriously, who the hell are all these people with opinions of emotional control in combat when they have not been in combat? USAF MP? A bunch of military wannabes? YOU people think you understand combat? Are you flippin kidding me?
Seriously, who the hell are all these people with opinions of emotional control in combat when they have not been in combat? USAF MP? A bunch of military wannabes? YOU people think you understand combat? Are you flippin kidding me?
Irony: Idiot creates badly written and filmed, heavy-handed "documentary" about how Marines are violent, robotic drones which then produces violent, robotic drone responses from Marines.
This just furthers my belief that a human writer cannot create comedy funnier than the comedy that spontaneously generates itself from humanity.
This just furthers my belief that a human writer cannot create comedy funnier than the comedy that spontaneously generates itself from humanity.