BF2S Forums Religious or Agnostic/Atheist People?

sergeriver wrote:

IG-Calibre wrote:

Stingray24 wrote:

Me thinks we have 2 threads in one here.

Not really, someone from Argentina asked a question about Ireland pertaining to the topic, and i'm just explaining why the response he was given was incorrect.  After all it is D&ST

In fact, I didn't ask a question, I just listed the Troubles among some religious conflicts and wars, and I was told that the Troubles wasn't about religion, although I believe it was.

You are very much correct..

I'd like to borrow & mutate a phrase from the pro-gun lobby and say:

Religions don't commit crimes, people commit crimes.

Of course, you've got to be careful with your religion, don't let your kids play with religion unsupervised and teach them proper respect for religion.

Responsible religious people keep their religion under lock and key when it's not in use.

sfarrar33 wrote:

daft, all people are just as evil
religion tends to be used as an excuse however
not a cause

My thoughts too. But the people who use religion as an excuse usually aren't doing what their religion's creator would want.

Religion isn't the cause of any war, it's only the justification.

Religious people have clearly commited the worst crimes in history. That may well change as religion becomes less and less important in world politics and as more people stop practicing any sort of religion.

Who has commited attrocities who was not religious? Really you are only talking about the later half of the 20th century and more recently. Even Hitler was religious. The question is who has commited the worst crimes, a minority of people over the past 100 years or everybody else throughout history? You also have to remember the world used to be a much more brutal place (not saying it's a utopia today, but it was worse).

It's quite a silly question really, because it is such an obvious answer. If the question was who will be responsible for more horrific crimes, religious people or atheists that might make for a more interesting debate.

Last edited by Bertster7 (2006-11-16 15:25:14)

sergeriver wrote:

Des.Kmal wrote:

wow sergeriver, if i saw u in RL i'd have to hit u.

just because of the sheet stupidity of this thread.

how about this one:

Who has commited the most crimes?

Liberals or Democrats?


Not fair is it?

Neither is this thread.

categorically, it might be fair, but in perspective, its not.

Religious people might have committed to most crimes. but lets go into more details.

Violent religions
Peaceful regligions

violent athiests
non-violent athiests.

Also, Hitler cannot/should be considered a Christian. No way, because obviously he didnt follow the rules and guidelines. FFS he killed Jews and everybody. So, you can rule out his religion. Maybe cult.........

You would hit me because I'm not religious, again religion is worse.  j/k
If you read the poll and the first post I never gave my opinion about this, and the 3 options are:
Religious People, Agnostic/Atheist People, Both, very fair to me.  I didn't point a gun to people to vote for religious dudes.

still not fair.

there is violent and non violent religions, you cannot put them together, thats bullshit. and unfair. as i said before.

so explain to me how you can put extremist terrorists, aka muslims(not all, im talking extremist muslims) in with Christians and have them in the same group?

Fancy_Pollux wrote:

Obligatory Bush comment.

Last edited by Des.Kmal (2006-11-16 15:53:05)

Fancy_Pollux wrote:

Obligatory Bush comment.

You are obsessed with people obsessed with GWB, ain't you?

doctastrangelove1964 wrote:

sergeriver wrote:

Des.Kmal wrote:

sergeriver wrote:

You would hit me because I'm not religious, again religion is worse.  j/k
If you read the poll and the first post I never gave my opinion about this, and the 3 options are:
Religious People, Agnostic/Atheist People, Both, very fair to me.  I didn't point a gun to people to vote for religious dudes.

still not fair.

there is violent and non violent religions, you cannot put them together, thats bullshit. and unfair. as i said before.

so explain to me how you can put extremist terrorists, aka muslims(not all, im talking extremist muslims) in with Christians and have them in the same group?

They all are religious, some of them are good people and some of them are bad people.  There good Christians and bad Christians, and there are good Muslims and bad Muslims.  But they all are religious.

More good religious Christians and Muslims than bad ones though, and the good ones give alot of money o chariety reletivly speaking.

I absolutely agree.

Des.Kmal wrote:

Then Sergeriver what did you vote?

Then I'll have my other argument backed up.

Religious.

Have religious people or atheists done more good deeds in the world?

sergeriver wrote:

Des.Kmal wrote:

Then Sergeriver what did you vote?

Then I'll have my other argument backed up.

Religious.

ok, there are good ones that overpower the bad ones. Correct? yes, you agreed.

Now, you couldnt vote non-religious, because you are non-religious. So what do you have to say for yourself? Besides Hitler, since he is ruled out anyway... he wasnt religious, im calling cult.....

Now both could be an answer. I voted both, because they have both cause a number of issues. Then by themselves, not that big of a problem, but when you get them together there is conflict. See? So the only possibly answer is both.

Unless you are talking about which has cause more problems... but you couldnt, because if you were, 'both' couldnt be an answer.

sergeriver wrote:

Des.Kmal wrote:

sergeriver wrote:

Religious.

ok, there are good ones that overpower the bad ones. Correct? yes, you agreed.

Now, you couldnt vote non-religious, because you are non-religious. So what do you have to say for yourself? Besides Hitler, since he is ruled out anyway... he wasnt religious, im calling cult.....

Now both could be an answer. I voted both, because they have both cause a number of issues. Then by themselves, not that big of a problem, but when you get them together there is conflict. See? So the only possibly answer is both.

Unless you are talking about which has cause more problems... but you couldnt, because if you were, 'both' couldnt be an answer.

I agree there are more good people than bad people, but I still believe the worst atrocities in history were done mostly by religious people, exceptions made.

can i get a few examples please?

sergeriver wrote:

The Crusades

The Inquisition

Armenian Genocide

Middle East Conflict

The Troubles

ok, sounds good.

Rwnadan Genocide.

Darfur genocide.

World War 1

World War II

Vietnam War

I could go on.