The_Shipbuilder
Stay the corpse
+261|6758|Los Angeles
I wrote a post earlier and in hindsight realized that I was going beyond debating on the facts and getting into dumbass, passive-aggressive taunting and insulting meant only to annoy some while entertaining others.

This "US VERSUS THEM" mindset is exactly what is wrong with the USA right now, and I'm just exacerbating the probem in my own small way.

From today I'm going to commit myself to paying close attention to that fine line between expressing my opinion and insulting or showing disdain for anyone who doesn't agree.

From now on, I am instituting a personal zero-tolerance policy. I welcome anyone to PM me to let me know that I crossed the line and was personally disrespectful with them, and I will send a full apology and 7 days worth of karma. This includes any case where I was insulted/disrespected and then just shoveled the shit back - that's no excuse.
siciliano732
Member
+202|6906|New York

The_Shipbuilder wrote:

I wrote a post earlier and in hindsight realized that I was going beyond debating on the facts and getting into dumbass, passive-aggressive taunting and insulting meant only to annoy some while entertaining others.

This "US VERSUS THEM" mindset is exactly what is wrong with the USA right now, and I'm just exacerbating the probem in my own small way.

From today I'm going to commit myself to paying close attention to that fine line between expressing my opinion and insulting or showing disdain for anyone who doesn't agree.

From now on, I am instituting a personal zero-tolerance policy. I welcome anyone to PM me to let me know that I crossed the line and was personally disrespectful with them, and I will send a full apology and 7 days worth of karma. This includes any case where I was insulted/disrespected and then just shoveled the shit back - that's no excuse.
thats very  honorable of you sir....+1....that is very mature of you, if only more people within these forums could take that stand...
Flaming_Maniac
prince of insufficient light
+2,490|6964|67.222.138.85
Let the Cons rejoice!
King_County_Downy
shitfaced
+2,791|6854|Seattle

I'm just getting started


Just kidding. It's hard to be the bigger man when arguing with twelve year olds. I try to hold back (sometimes). I'll try to do the same. Anytime you talk about politics or religion, it seems to turn into a flamefest. That's just the way it is when people feel strongly about something.
Sober enough to know what I'm doing, drunk enough to really enjoy doing it
joker3327
=IBF2=
+305|6855|Cheshire. UK
Hey ship dont go too hard on yourself ...some come here just to flame and get a reaction....
IRONCHEF
Member
+385|6748|Northern California
I too have taken that stand, even partially abandoning the flame-worthy reply when provoked.  I'll still offer passionate opinions now and then and DEFEND myself and my opinion, but the name calling and provocative insulting has ended..and I didn't even need atg or one of those other yahoos to "break me in" or whatever it is they claimed to have done with ikarti or the other guys I've seen here mentioned as being adjusted. lol

Well done Ship!  +1
Brasso
member
+1,549|6887

The_Shipbuilder wrote:

I wrote a post earlier and in hindsight realized that I was going beyond debating on the facts and getting into dumbass, passive-aggressive taunting and insulting meant only to annoy some while entertaining others.

This "US VERSUS THEM" mindset is exactly what is wrong with the USA right now, and I'm just exacerbating the probem in my own small way.

From today I'm going to commit myself to paying close attention to that fine line between expressing my opinion and insulting or showing disdain for anyone who doesn't agree.

From now on, I am instituting a personal zero-tolerance policy. I welcome anyone to PM me to let me know that I crossed the line and was personally disrespectful with them, and I will send a full apology and 7 days worth of karma. This includes any case where I was insulted/disrespected and then just shoveled the shit back - that's no excuse.
FUCK YOU.

joking.
"people in ny have a general idea of how to drive. one of the pedals goes forward the other one prevents you from dying"
Chou
Member
+737|7048
So you will revert from intellect to standard boredom?

It's a no-no
deeznutz1245
Connecticut: our chimps are stealin yo' faces.
+483|6750|Connecticut

haffeysucks wrote:

The_Shipbuilder wrote:

I wrote a post earlier and in hindsight realized that I was going beyond debating on the facts and getting into dumbass, passive-aggressive taunting and insulting meant only to annoy some while entertaining others.

This "US VERSUS THEM" mindset is exactly what is wrong with the USA right now, and I'm just exacerbating the probem in my own small way.

From today I'm going to commit myself to paying close attention to that fine line between expressing my opinion and insulting or showing disdain for anyone who doesn't agree.

From now on, I am instituting a personal zero-tolerance policy. I welcome anyone to PM me to let me know that I crossed the line and was personally disrespectful with them, and I will send a full apology and 7 days worth of karma. This includes any case where I was insulted/disrespected and then just shoveled the shit back - that's no excuse.
FUCK YOU.

joking.
That was kinda funny, you have to admit.
Malloy must go
sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|7014|Argentina
You know what The_Shipbuilder?  I'm done with you.  Every post you make it's a disgrace for this forum.  We never agree in our viewpoints.  I think you are making this thread only to receive some karma.  I don't need to read your stuff.

That's what a lot of conservative people are thinking right now.  But I am not, so +1 for you.

Edit: I already gave you karma today, so sorry m8.

Last edited by sergeriver (2006-10-25 17:32:33)

Stingray24
Proud member of the vast right-wing conspiracy
+1,060|6702|The Land of Scott Walker

sergeriver wrote:

You know what The_Shipbuilder?  I'm done with you.  Every post you make it's a disgrace for this forum.  We never agree in our viewpoints.  I think you are making this thread only to receive some karma.  I don't need to read your stuff.

That's what a lot of conservative people are thinking right now.  But I am not, so +1 for you.

Edit: I already gave you karma today, so sorry m8.
You are not conservative so please refrain from speaking for us, sergeriver, thanks. 

Well done, Shipbuilder.  Props to you and +1.
sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|7014|Argentina

Stingray24 wrote:

sergeriver, thanks.
You're welcome.
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|6858|132 and Bush

The_Shipbuilder wrote:

I wrote a post earlier and in hindsight realized that I was going beyond debating on the facts and getting into dumbass, passive-aggressive taunting and insulting meant only to annoy some while entertaining others.

This "US VERSUS THEM" mindset is exactly what is wrong with the USA right now, and I'm just exacerbating the probem in my own small way.

From today I'm going to commit myself to paying close attention to that fine line between expressing my opinion and insulting or showing disdain for anyone who doesn't agree.

From now on, I am instituting a personal zero-tolerance policy. I welcome anyone to PM me to let me know that I crossed the line and was personally disrespectful with them, and I will send a full apology and 7 days worth of karma. This includes any case where I was insulted/disrespected and then just shoveled the shit back - that's no excuse.
Its ok ship i wouldnt had taken it personal..lol +1
Xbone Stormsurgezz
ATG
Banned
+5,233|6786|Global Command
sURE YOU ARE!                                 
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|6858|132 and Bush

sergeriver wrote:

We never agree in our viewpoints.  .
I have agreed plenty with him.
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cospengle
Member
+140|6744|Armidale, NSW, Australia

The_Shipbuilder wrote:

From today I'm going to commit myself to paying close attention to that fine line between expressing my opinion and insulting or showing disdain for anyone who doesn't agree.
But sometimes people will be insulted by your opinion no matter how nicely you put it.

There's no point in saying "Yes, but look at it this way..." when what you mean is "You are a f*#king moron and no one can take you seriously because you smell...".

I'm sure there's a balance there somewhere, but some people just need to be told how it is. I hate trying to have a serious discussion with someone if they're afraid to call a spade a spade. Just turns into a load of airy-fairy meta-philosophical bullshit.

Anyway, I agree with you, but don't be too worried about all that stuff. Everyone who's passionate about something will fly off the handle from time to time, and if no one's passionate about it then why bother debating it.
SpaceApollyon
Scratch where it itches
+41|6777|Finland

cospengle wrote:

Anyway, I agree with you, but don't be too worried about all that stuff. Everyone who's passionate about something will fly off the handle from time to time, and if no one's passionate about it then why bother debating it.
QFE
IG-Calibre
comhalta
+226|6999|Tír Eoghan, Tuaisceart Éireann
I blame Barney the Dinosaur myself, Jesus Christ can yous not take a bit of banter? you lot wouldn't last 5 minutes in Ireland you've gotta be able to take it and give it - it's what we Irish call a bit of craic- internets serious business
misconfiguration
GURU
+86|6653|Indianapolis, IN
That's very admirable of you good sir. +1 for you!!
The_Shipbuilder
Stay the corpse
+261|6758|Los Angeles

cospengle wrote:

The_Shipbuilder wrote:

From today I'm going to commit myself to paying close attention to that fine line between expressing my opinion and insulting or showing disdain for anyone who doesn't agree.
But sometimes people will be insulted by your opinion no matter how nicely you put it.
Perhaps. I'm not going to beat myself up if someone is threatened by my opinions - as long as my opinions are on topic and not veiled ah hominem insults.

cospengle wrote:

There's no point in saying "Yes, but look at it this way..." when what you mean is "You are a f*#king moron and no one can take you seriously because you smell...".
True. But my job is to stop discussing at that point. In my ideal world, every debate operates by the Socratic method - all participants bringing their respective intelligence and logic to the discussion with the common goal of finding the best answer possible. I'm more than willing to concede an argument if it means my understanding of the world improves. If the other party offers nothing, or has no interest in an honest debate, it's become a waste of time. Time to call it quits.

cospengle wrote:

Anyway, I agree with you, but don't be too worried about all that stuff. Everyone who's passionate about something will fly off the handle from time to time, and if no one's passionate about it then why bother debating it.
Of course. But the beauty of the internet is you can be passionate and get really pissed off and fly off the handle, but you can still calm down and either post no response or wait 20 min and write something respectfully. That's my goal.
kr@cker
Bringin' Sexy Back!
+581|6806|Southeastern USA
flaming those knobs on youtube is alot more fun, they all seem to have the equivalent mental developement of an 8 year old
Stealth42o
She looked 18 to me officer
+175|6929
Bring Back Ikarti!

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