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http://blog.american.com/?p=7451

New Geography, the online magazine created by Joel Kotkin and others with a special focus on demographics and trends, has been tracking the implosion of California in an interesting way: by comparing it to Texas.

Texas and California are America’s two most populous states, together numbering approximately 55 million people, which is only about 6 million less than the United Kingdom, where I live. California, as everyone knows, has a coolness factor that Texas cannot match. Hollywood, Silicon Valley, and wine. Say no more. But, unless one has been living in a cave, everyone knows that the cool state is also the broke state. If Hollywood turned California’s budget and fiscal position into a movie, it would be a blockbuster horror film indeed.

Texas, on the other hand, is growing, creating wealth, and attracting the entrepreneurial and creative classes that too many people think only go to places like New York and California. This interesting post by Tory Gattis at New Geography explains why. He shares a four-point analysis from Trends magazine:

First, Texans on average believe in laissez-faire markets with an emphasis on individual responsibility. Since the ’80s, California’s policy-makers have favored central planning solutions and a reliance on a government social safety net. This unrelenting commitment to big government has led to a huge tax burden and triggered a mass exodus of jobs. The Trends Editors examined the resulting migration in “Voting with Our Feet,” in the April 2008 issue of Trends.

Second, Californians have largely treated environmentalism as a “religious sacrament” rather than as one component among many in maximizing people’s quality of life. As we explained in “The Road Ahead for Housing,” in the June 2009 issue of Trends, environmentally-based land-use restriction centered in California played a huge role in inflating the recent housing bubble. Similarly, an unwillingness to manage ecology proactively for man’s benefit has been behind the recent epidemic of wildfires.

Third, California has placed “ethnic diversity” above “assimilation,” while Texas has done the opposite. “Identity politics” has created psychological ghettos that have prevented many of California’s diverse ethnic groups and subcultures from integrating fully into the mainstream. Texas, on the other hand, has proactively encouraged all the state’s residents to join the mainstream.

Fourth, beyond taxes, diversity, and the environment, Texas has focused on streamlining the regulatory and litigation burden on its residents. Meanwhile, California’s government has attempted to use regulation and litigation to transfer wealth from its creators to various special-interest constituencies.

I wrote an article for New Geography related to the second point last spring. The role played by housing regulations in the housing bubble is one of the most under-reported and under-analyzed factors contributing to the 2008 financial crisis, and nowhere was its destructive force more evident than in California. Regulators lathered on rule after rule to construction requirements, escalating costs so dramatically that lenders had to design “exotic” mortgages so even relatively affluent people could afford homes. One of Texas’s attractions, meanwhile, was the opportunity of much more affordable homeownership.

Perhaps the analysis above falls a bit short, though, in not giving enough attention to role that the tax structure in California has played in driving people away, and the parallel problem of the state’s hemorrhaging public sector workforce. Kotkin has written in Forbes that California’s government workforce has saddled the state’s budget with $200 billion in unfunded pension liabilities. Kotkin also points out that California has been losing high-tech jobs to the Southwest and elsewhere because of its increasingly hostile tax and regulatory environment.

By now, the subtext of this post should be clear: the Obama administration is behaving as though California were its model for growth. Increasing unfunded liabilities, proposing $1 trillion in new healthcare spending, responding to the economic crisis with new regulatory agencies but balking on the core causes of the problem—all of this and more betrays a sinister psychology of policy making.

Like California, the Obama team and their congressional allies seem to think that entrepreneurs and business leaders will simply sit there and take it, doing their “civic duty” by paying new direct and indirect taxes, and complying like obsequious puppies with new regulatory requirements. California provides pretty good evidence that this type of “civic duty” wears thin. The best and the brightest won’t just sit there and take it. We are already seeing this in the UK, where entrepreneurs and the job-creating class are leaving (witness this rather enjoyable account of the situation by London’s mayor, Boris Johnson).

“Texas vs. California”—hardly any phrase more succinctly captures the battle going on today for America’s philosophical soul.

which state is doing better?
Love is the answer
Jay
Bork! Bork! Bork!
+2,006|5608|London, England
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
Iconic Irony
Bare Back Rough Rider
+189|5526|San Angelo, TX
Texas is win.  I know, I live there.
Jenspm
penis
+1,716|6982|St. Andrews / Oslo

Iconic Irony wrote:

Texas is win.  I know, I grew up there.
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Harmor
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+605|6798|San Diego, CA, USA
I'm in the process of selling my house in California...the taxes are getting ridiculous trying to fund the union pensions which have increased by 2500% in 10 years!!!  ($187 million/year to about $5 billion/year).

If we had a Democratic Governor I'm sure taxes would have been even higher!  Oh and don't get me started on all the 'special assessments' they are adding for property taxes...

Jenspm wrote:

Iconic Irony wrote:

Texas is win.  I know, I grew up there.
ghettoperson
Member
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Harmor wrote:

I'm in the process of selling my house in California...the taxes are getting ridiculous trying to fund the union pensions which have increased by 2500% in 10 years!!!  ($187 million/year to about $5 billion/year).

If we had a Democratic Governor I'm sure taxes would have been even higher!  Oh and don't get me started on all the 'special assessments' they are adding for property taxes...
Your Governor is basically a Democrat, I doubt they'd change.
Harmor
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+605|6798|San Diego, CA, USA

ghettoperson wrote:

Harmor wrote:

I'm in the process of selling my house in California...the taxes are getting ridiculous trying to fund the union pensions which have increased by 2500% in 10 years!!!  ($187 million/year to about $5 billion/year).

If we had a Democratic Governor I'm sure taxes would have been even higher!  Oh and don't get me started on all the 'special assessments' they are adding for property taxes...
Your Governor is basically a Democrat, I doubt they'd change.
Actually he was a Democrat when he signed in the largest tax increase last February.  But the last budget battle he has been very steadfast on no additional taxes.

Although fees for certain things have gone up and services reduced (i.e. Court closed every Wednesday, DMV closed on Fridays, park fees increased, etc...).

We're expecting to have a $21 billion budget gap next fiscal year...and with the way the economy is going I suspect that to increased because their predictions are always rosy.
Jay
Bork! Bork! Bork!
+2,006|5608|London, England

Harmor wrote:

ghettoperson wrote:

Harmor wrote:

I'm in the process of selling my house in California...the taxes are getting ridiculous trying to fund the union pensions which have increased by 2500% in 10 years!!!  ($187 million/year to about $5 billion/year).

If we had a Democratic Governor I'm sure taxes would have been even higher!  Oh and don't get me started on all the 'special assessments' they are adding for property taxes...
Your Governor is basically a Democrat, I doubt they'd change.
Actually he was a Democrat when he signed in the largest tax increase last February.  But the last budget battle he has been very steadfast on no additional taxes.

Although fees for certain things have gone up and services reduced (i.e. Court closed every Wednesday, DMV closed on Fridays, park fees increased, etc...).

We're expecting to have a $21 billion budget gap next fiscal year...and with the way the economy is going I suspect that to increased because their predictions are always rosy.
It will be bigger. Your tax base has been fleeing the state in droves.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
=NHB=Shadow
hi
+322|6616|California
As Californians, we are getting screwed up the butt, not once, not twice, but infinity over and over

=NHB=Shadow wrote:

As Californians, we are getting screwed up the butt, not once, not twice, but infinity over and over
i hear californians like it up the bootie
jk *wink wink*
{M5}Sniper3
Typical white person.
+389|7010|San Antonio, Texas

Kimmmmmmmmmmmm wrote:

Jenspm wrote:

Iconic Irony wrote:

Texas is win.  I know, I grew up there.
Flaming_Maniac
prince of insufficient light
+2,490|6957|67.222.138.85
reppin the Lone Star State
DrunkFace
Germans did 911
+427|6931|Disaster Free Zone
I still know where'd I prefer to live.
LividBovine
The Year of the Cow!
+175|6630|MN
Texas is one of a very few states that still has some balls. 

I live in MN where the people live more conservatively, but generally vote more liberal.  I think it is the farmers screwing things up for us.
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Cybargs
Moderated
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{M5}Sniper3 wrote:

Kimmmmmmmmmmmm wrote:

Jenspm wrote:


No he actually grew up in Oklahoma. But Texas > California. Fuck California, its a fucking shithole.
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Kimmmmmmmmmmmm wrote:

Jenspm wrote:

Iconic Irony wrote:

Texas is win.  I know, ZZ Top is from there.
Narupug
Fodder Mostly
+150|5847|Vacationland
Haha fukers, glad I got out of California.


Maine is where it's at
mcgid1
Meh...
+129|6966|Austin, TX/San Antonio, TX
Texas is simply win.  Nothing more needs to be said.
m3thod
All kiiiiiiiiinds of gainz
+2,197|6921|UK
you guys are dead when ken reads this.
Blackbelts are just whitebelts who have never quit.

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